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Replying To johnjoe21:  "I've nothing to hide, you're the one making up stories with no actual facts to back them up. You can't seem to grasp that for some reason."
If you bother to read what I wrote, you might see I'm not making up stories. What I am doing is (the same as MOST gaa loving people on this forum) giving my opinion. My opinion (seems some need it spelt out) was that the County football players were turning to other sports because of been gone out of championship so early. Now I'm not saying there's anything wrong with this in fact it keeps their fitness levels up. They could very well get injured at County or club level also. What I am saying and this is also my opinion is if they were still involved in county later in year there would be more of a probability of an injury diagnosis been got and play stopped earlier, be this in training or match time. Not to mention the better chance of quick and correct. diagnosis. The professional medical staff are in attendance. Now what you were asking me to do is back up my opinion and give names. The players are not professionals and neither am , so I think they deserve the right not to be named especially when it is my opinion as I'm entitled to. If you have a counter opinion to prove (as you are asking me) that my opinion is wrong, I'd love to hear it. So finally I'm not making up stories, I'm given my opinion, look around that is what this forum is based on people's opinions.

Toman (Galway) - Posts: 162 - 29/08/2019 09:20:26    2230335

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Replying To galwayfball:  "Theyre not looking for their names on our jerseys. The donors in the US are irish people who love the GAA and have done well for themselves. They roll out the red carpet for anyone who plays for their county (yes the Comers of the world would get extra buzz) A good club player will get flights, accommodation and a job sorted for them in a few days if they decide to play for one of the US clubs. Theres a massive opportunity to raise funds when in NY. Any passionate galwegian living in New York will be there and a some have more than a few bob to spare. Kerry go over there every so often with the sole purpose to raise funds and theres a lot more organising needed because there is no game already set up as the main event"
I agree with that. But bringing mr no. 32 on Kevin Walsh's 2020 panel is not fundraising. Its rewarding lads for training when it should be said "lads, the first 26 are going to America so aim to make the cut")/! There is a tracksuit culture among our senior footballers that the hurlers do not have.

If we want to go to America fundraising we need a plan, some players and a rake of the 1998/2001 crew.

lowballplease (Galway) - Posts: 864 - 29/08/2019 11:25:55    2230379

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Replying To Toman:  "If you bother to read what I wrote, you might see I'm not making up stories. What I am doing is (the same as MOST gaa loving people on this forum) giving my opinion. My opinion (seems some need it spelt out) was that the County football players were turning to other sports because of been gone out of championship so early. Now I'm not saying there's anything wrong with this in fact it keeps their fitness levels up. They could very well get injured at County or club level also. What I am saying and this is also my opinion is if they were still involved in county later in year there would be more of a probability of an injury diagnosis been got and play stopped earlier, be this in training or match time. Not to mention the better chance of quick and correct. diagnosis. The professional medical staff are in attendance. Now what you were asking me to do is back up my opinion and give names. The players are not professionals and neither am , so I think they deserve the right not to be named especially when it is my opinion as I'm entitled to. If you have a counter opinion to prove (as you are asking me) that my opinion is wrong, I'd love to hear it. So finally I'm not making up stories, I'm given my opinion, look around that is what this forum is based on people's opinions."
Comer went to a 'specialist' via the county setup after his ankle injury and got the all clear after having his scan read. It took a few weeks and a second scan to reveal there was an actual sprain or crack or whichever - so wouldn't exactly say being under the county setup makes a difference one way or another!

The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 604 - 29/08/2019 12:24:26    2230395

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Replying To The_DOC:  "Comer went to a 'specialist' via the county setup after his ankle injury and got the all clear after having his scan read. It took a few weeks and a second scan to reveal there was an actual sprain or crack or whichever - so wouldn't exactly say being under the county setup makes a difference one way or another!"
How long after initial injury did he go to specialist. You have to understand if those injuries are left for a length of time they start their own healing process. This heating process can hide the extent of the initial injury. Now maybe this is not the case and he went to County set up the following day??

Toman (Galway) - Posts: 162 - 29/08/2019 13:10:52    2230402

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we need PJ IN

BigNualaBurke (Galway) - Posts: 77 - 29/08/2019 13:15:56    2230403

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Replying To maroondiesel:  "Fast forward to 2020.....Dublin will be going for 6 in a row and have 2 great players for each position....done deal.

Galway have zero cups since 2008 except for 2 Connacht Tiles under KW and a division 2 title under KW. If we get one more Connacht with him and make super 8 and survive div. 1 that is the goal for 2020, then Kev can hang up his woolly hat. This is a realistic goal and I would take it right now."
That puts us back to where we were before 2018 when we finished the league on the top spot, but were beaten by Dublin in the final, won Connacht, and then went on to a semifinal appearance.

I'm not saying I disagree with you per se, in fact I think your expectations are probably realistic; but there's no ambition there and the idea that we'd be happy with what would be a slide, though obviously a huge improvement on 2019, does not reflect well on KW.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 2747 - 29/08/2019 15:35:36    2230451

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Replying To BigNualaBurke:  "we need PJ IN"
Control yourself Nuala, he's a married man.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 2747 - 29/08/2019 18:29:11    2230505

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Replying To The_DOC:  "Listen, I'm not saying it as one way or the other but I'm just wondering what your basing these facts off. S&C is a very technical and complex thing, which should be tailored to a specific individual.

Do you know the specific training plan of one or two players or are you basing of a collective training programme? Do you know if they are working off the 10day training block @ 3x 10day build and 1x10day recover into a larger base at start of next set of 10day block or are they working or a weekly or monthly programme?

There are so many variables here, also taking into account matches, ar players being rested are subs being given the opportunity to clock 'missed' intervals after a match?

Then individual players will respond differently to a S&C plan and only through injury wil you know their limits and tailor their recovery programme and next S&C programme based on the learning from an injury."
Having watched numerous training sessions during my time at Loughgeorge, it was very clear that they were working on collective weekly programs from November through January, in certain instances tailor made for certain individuals. However the bulk of the training thereafter consisted of playing out tactical scenarios specific to defending and attacking space, only. They put countless hours into that, and very little football is actually played out.

PopeFrancis19 (Galway) - Posts: 24 - 30/08/2019 19:03:25    2230801

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Is Evan Murphy back yet for Salthill. He's a serious prospect if harnessed correctly. Should be coming of age for senior now, Pity about the injury setting him back.

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1002 - 30/08/2019 20:20:31    2230820

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I'd say at this stage 70% chance of Kevin going and that we will need a new manager. I'd also say 100% the county board want Kevin to stay.They haven't the appetide for a new manager in both codes not to mention the whole financial implications,Interesting times. I think a final decision on the way in the next 10 days to 2 weeks.

fairplay4ever (Galway) - Posts: 339 - 31/08/2019 15:47:49    2231003

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I believe Stritch is going to Kildare so they will be looking for a new coach anyway

johnterry (Galway) - Posts: 299 - 31/08/2019 19:35:52    2231047

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Replying To fairplay4ever:  "I'd say at this stage 70% chance of Kevin going and that we will need a new manager. I'd also say 100% the county board want Kevin to stay.They haven't the appetide for a new manager in both codes not to mention the whole financial implications,Interesting times. I think a final decision on the way in the next 10 days to 2 weeks."
Surely Kevin will stay. It would really set back preparations for next season as it could take up to two months to appoint new manager and by then other counties will be back training. Will be very surprised if kevin goes.

gaillimhboy (Galway) - Posts: 249 - 31/08/2019 20:23:47    2231055

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Replying To gaillimhboy:  "Surely Kevin will stay. It would really set back preparations for next season as it could take up to two months to appoint new manager and by then other counties will be back training. Will be very surprised if kevin goes."
If Kevin stays its the end of this current squad imo. You say it would set the County back 2 month if he goes. I think it will set Galway football back 3 years if he stays.

Toman (Galway) - Posts: 162 - 31/08/2019 21:22:08    2231070

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Replying To gaillimhboy:  "Surely Kevin will stay. It would really set back preparations for next season as it could take up to two months to appoint new manager and by then other counties will be back training. Will be very surprised if kevin goes."
He may change his mind which is his perogative but word on the street is that he is leaning towards calling it a day

fairplay4ever (Galway) - Posts: 339 - 31/08/2019 21:59:26    2231076

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Replying To johnterry:  "I believe Stritch is going to Kildare so they will be looking for a new coach anyway"
No harm in Stritch going. We went backwards from Tally when Stritch came in.

togoutlads (Galway) - Posts: 140 - 31/08/2019 22:18:38    2231080

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Suppose we'll find out in the next couple of weeks...

gaillimhboy (Galway) - Posts: 249 - 31/08/2019 22:30:25    2231085

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All Ireland shows the importance of a free taker. O'Shea kicked 2 45's at the start of the second half to keep Kerry in it, Rock missed a few tough ones. We need Barry McHugh at least on the panel. Galway would not have kicked the 45s.

johnterry (Galway) - Posts: 299 - 01/09/2019 17:50:09    2231332

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A team we bet last year by a goal and if we had been more cutthroat we wouldve hammered have just put it up to the dubs in the all Ireland final. How things change in 12 months

People forget that when we played the dubs last year in the first half we actually couldve really pushed them but didnt have the bottle. We missed a penalty and most of the heads dropped.We have the players we dont have attitude or mindset to do it. If KW stays it's really on him and his backroom team that these players arent in the right headspace

Agree with another poster an in form McHugh should not only be on the panel he should start. Guarantee to keep the scoreboard ticking over. I dont think he was in form this year to be fair and it was his choice to walk away from the panel. He'll get asked back and hopefully he returns

galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 977 - 01/09/2019 18:20:29    2231373

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Replying To johnterry:  "All Ireland shows the importance of a free taker. O'Shea kicked 2 45's at the start of the second half to keep Kerry in it, Rock missed a few tough ones. We need Barry McHugh at least on the panel. Galway would not have kicked the 45s."
It Also shows the importance of a proper training coach ie Donaigh Buckley. I said I before, he was brilliant with Mayo. We lost a big opportunity to try to get him when he left Mayo.

Toman (Galway) - Posts: 162 - 01/09/2019 21:16:21    2231537

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Barry McHugh missed plenty of frees of during the league, he's not good enough to be playing football during the summer for Galway.

JDF (Galway) - Posts: 322 - 01/09/2019 21:27:45    2231542

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