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Is Paul Flynns final spot in doubt ?

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Simple question, Is it ?

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13531 - 30/08/2016 22:01:49    1908408

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Replying To waynoI:  "Simple question, Is it ?"
No.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 12873 - 30/08/2016 22:19:00    1908411

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I'd go with Flynner

Same team again

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 19818 - 30/08/2016 23:35:14    1908455

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He will 100% start but he hasn't been the same Paul Flynn we all know he can be since 2014, he's only 30 so hopefully it's just all these niggling injuries affecting his game and he can come back to the player he was. But there's no way he'll be dropped for the final. Honestly forgot he was playing Sunday until he was taken off , come on Flynner give us a big final like last year.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 31/08/2016 00:31:09    1908468

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He took a heavy knock and was down having trearment before he was subbed. He seems to have lost confidence in his kicking but is still working away. I'd be very surprised if he didn't start.

theduke66 (Dublin) - Posts: 320 - 31/08/2016 08:37:12    1908498

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No
and the prob is, that if he was dropped, it wouldnt be for Andrews or Mannion as some seem to think, it would be for a like player. So if Flynn is dropped, it would be for Tomas Brady.

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8156 - 31/08/2016 10:14:57    1908542

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He wasn't at the standard of 2014 last year either. The injury obviously took a bit of the edge off his game. However, in the final he put in a big performance and was instrumental in the victory. I'm confident he has another big game in him so I would start him. JG sees him every day in training and is best placed to make the big call. He's shown he's not afraid to make big decisions so I trust his judgement but I would be mildly surprised if Flynner isn't our number 10 on the 18th.

Kurt_Angle (Dublin) - Posts: 530 - 31/08/2016 11:01:23    1908572

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Liam why like for like? He brought Paddy on in Flynn's wing forward position on Sunday why couldn't he start Andrews instead of Flynn? Tomas Brady has no chance of playing in the final. Flynn will 100% start but I don't agree with this like for like post by Liam. What if Flynn was injured and Brady was playing hurling then what do we do?

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 31/08/2016 12:12:57    1908616

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Heya CD
Good times buddy :)

On the Flynner thing. i have noticed a change in Pauls game in the last few years. He rarely shoots anymore, he rarely comes for kick outs anymore. His job these days, it seems to me anyways, is to basically operate as a forward sweeper. He runs the forty from left to right, trying to disrupt and destroy. He rarely if ever now pops up in either FF line or FB line, he seems to solely operate between the two fortys. He is no longer one of our score getters as he once was. I know Jim brought Paddy on, but he game was into its 50th min by then and that was a tactical attacking switch.
From the off, Jim likes Flynner to be that "forward sweeper" and I would argue that were Flynn to be dropped (and for the record, I will be SHOCKED if he is) I would wager that the man to take his place would be one of Tomas Brady or Denis Bastick

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8156 - 31/08/2016 13:19:46    1908659

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Great times Liamo can't wait for the final, man I hate saying anything negative about Paul Flynn what a player he was and hopefully still will be but right now he's just not at it.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 31/08/2016 14:55:08    1908718

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But, to play devils advocate on this one.

If a player simply isn't performing to his best, Is it not wrong to keep going with him instead of replacing him with someone who Is flying in training.

He hasn't had a very good game for Dublin in 2016, Is it fair on the players vying for his spot that he stays there in the "hope" he produces a big final display ?

Likewise Bernard Brogan, Though I didn't think he was terrible the last day, just hasn't reached the dizzy heights weve come to expect.

I think both will start on the 18th anyway,was just posing the question

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13531 - 01/09/2016 10:07:45    1908978

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Replying To waynoI:  "But, to play devils advocate on this one.

If a player simply isn't performing to his best, Is it not wrong to keep going with him instead of replacing him with someone who Is flying in training.

He hasn't had a very good game for Dublin in 2016, Is it fair on the players vying for his spot that he stays there in the "hope" he produces a big final display ?

Likewise Bernard Brogan, Though I didn't think he was terrible the last day, just hasn't reached the dizzy heights weve come to expect.

I think both will start on the 18th anyway,was just posing the question"
He got a dead leg early enough in the game

Very hard to run that off, you can see him looking at Gavin when he goes off..

Flynner will play a crucial part in the final, he's capable of saving his best for the last, and his work rate in still monstrous, we'll need that against Mayo.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 19818 - 01/09/2016 11:14:17    1909027

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I posed the same question a few weeks back. Anyway, give him 20mins to impress on the 18th. The poor aul Kerry lads are talking about rugby and soccer over on their page.
Oh and also about apparent pics of David Gough out celebrating with the Dubs after last years final, I'd like to see them myself!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 7701 - 02/09/2016 00:37:53    1909350

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Unless he's injured he's starting in my opinion.
He's been nowhere near the standard he set himself between 2011 - 2014 but his work rate is still there for all to see. He could be crucial for Dublin from kickouts as Dublin will need dirty ball winners and height against Mayo. Make no mistake, Mayo will try to capitalise on the problems that Kerry presented from the Cluxton kickout the last day. Mayo could go for broke and push up on the kickout for the full 70 minutes, they have the players to do it. It's a gamble but it's one worth taking
Dublin need enough ball winners in there like Flynn to get that ball and pump it into the full forward line as quick as possible

Just out of interest, if you were to drop Flynn, who do you bring in and why?

keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 02/09/2016 10:54:26    1909407

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Replying To realdub:  "I posed the same question a few weeks back. Anyway, give him 20mins to impress on the 18th. The poor aul Kerry lads are talking about rugby and soccer over on their page.
Oh and also about apparent pics of David Gough out celebrating with the Dubs after last years final, I'd like to see them myself!"
The picture is of a visit to the school he teaches in by Bastick with the cup FFS!!!

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8156 - 02/09/2016 15:10:08    1909486

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Replying To Liamwalkinstown:  "The picture is of a visit to the school he teaches in by Bastick with the cup FFS!!!"
Yeh so I hear, keep digging lads, let's make it your very own 911 :D

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 7701 - 04/09/2016 21:49:40    1910009

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Replying To waynoI:  "But, to play devils advocate on this one.

If a player simply isn't performing to his best, Is it not wrong to keep going with him instead of replacing him with someone who Is flying in training.

He hasn't had a very good game for Dublin in 2016, Is it fair on the players vying for his spot that he stays there in the "hope" he produces a big final display ?

Likewise Bernard Brogan, Though I didn't think he was terrible the last day, just hasn't reached the dizzy heights weve come to expect.

I think both will start on the 18th anyway,was just posing the question"
I think both will start the final too, and in fairness Brogan has been doing a lot of selfless work this year creating space for our other forwards, and I've no doubt Mayo will still put their best defender on him for the final. No team could take the risk of going 'light' on BB.
As for your question about Flynn, I know he carried a knock into the semi, and that obviously affected him, but the thing Gavin has to figure is if Paul Flynn at 80% is better than whoever the alternative might be at 100%. As things stand he probably reckons he is so that's why he will keep picking Flynn.

AHP (Dublin) - Posts: 323 - 05/09/2016 07:29:45    1910053

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Get EOG on from the start

Remember the havoc he caused Mayo!

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 19818 - 05/09/2016 08:41:05    1910067

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Nope, since 2014 the half forwards put in a lot of work defenisvley none more so then Flynn who has sacrificed his offensive game more then anyone. He is crucil to our defensive game.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 3282 - 05/09/2016 11:14:40    1910144

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Any truth to the rumours that James Mc Carthy is a big doubt for the final (shoulder) and Paul Flynn is struggling?

MURPHB33 (Dublin) - Posts: 166 - 06/09/2016 11:43:27    1910604

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