I have deep sympathy for referees, very tough job and thankless.
However the last two three division one games my club involved in has had no neutral umpires with the referee, in fairness lads are working and you cannot expect volunteers to go to games mid week.
Last night I witnessed two strikes off the ball resulting in a bad nose injury to a very young player. in fairness the referee could not have seen it himself.
Referees need to have at least two neutral umpires with him for games to stand any chance of having control.
Last nights game could have easily got out of hand.
2 lads from each club went in at half time to help but a referee starting a game with no umpires or linesmen in division 1 is not acceptable in this day and age.
I have deep sympathy for referees, very tough job and thankless.
However the last two three division one games my club involved in has had no neutral umpires with the referee, in fairness lads are working and you cannot expect volunteers to go to games mid week.
Last night I witnessed two strikes off the ball resulting in a bad nose injury to a very young player. in fairness the referee could not have seen it himself.
Referees need to have at least two neutral umpires with him for games to stand any chance of having control.
Last nights game could have easily got out of hand.
2 lads from each club went in at half time to help but a referee starting a game with no umpires or linesmen in division 1 is not acceptable in this day and age."
I witnessed one strike off the ball and then I witnessed one incident of a player going down pretending he had been struck to try and get a player sent off. Ref struggled to control the game on his own but lets be clear there was 2 teams in it and they both were at it.
I also witnessed a manager/Team Official coming all the way into the middle of the pitch and on his way off throw a frontal shoulder into a player so I'd be more concerned about the conduct of your own team particularly the team officials rather than whether a ref has umpires or not.
Well the last thing I intended was to start who or he did what and your response exactly backs up my concerns.
Simple fact is, you could get away with almost anything last night because of this topic.
Same thing in a previous game a few weeks ago where a perfect good goal was disallowed by a referee from 50 metres away because he was pressured into it by a certain manager and players.
If he has his own official to consult with its a very easy decision
Replying To thelutch: "Well the last thing I intended was to start who or he did what and your response exactly backs up my concerns.
Simple fact is, you could get away with almost anything last night because of this topic.
Same thing in a previous game a few weeks ago where a perfect good goal was disallowed by a referee from 50 metres away because he was pressured into it by a certain manager and players.
If he has his own official to consult with its a very easy decision"
It's hard for referees to get umpires on a midweek basis when they have their own clubs playing at the same time. Work commitments etc. When it comes to championship usually all refs do bring a full roster but with them out mostly every night it's impossible to expect them to bring umpires especially if county schedules all games the same night.
Replying To thelutch: "Well the last thing I intended was to start who or he did what and your response exactly backs up my concerns.
Simple fact is, you could get away with almost anything last night because of this topic.
Same thing in a previous game a few weeks ago where a perfect good goal was disallowed by a referee from 50 metres away because he was pressured into it by a certain manager and players.
If he has his own official to consult with its a very easy decision"
There was no linesman on the opposite side of the dugout either . If a ref is there on his own he should just refuse to start the game until both clubs provide one linesman each and 2 umpires each. The CB should make this a rule.
If either club cannot provide these then the other club can provide all of them and if the club that hasn't provided them has an issue with the other club having both linesmen or all umpires then tough. They'll make sure they have someone to do those jobs the next time.
Replying To CMAN1570: "It's hard for referees to get umpires on a midweek basis when they have their own clubs playing at the same time. Work commitments etc. When it comes to championship usually all refs do bring a full roster but with them out mostly every night it's impossible to expect them to bring umpires especially if county schedules all games the same night."
I agree and I would not blame the ref here.
I said in my other post that is should a rule that both clubs should provide 1 linesman and 2 umpires and if they fail to provide them the opposition is given the right to provide them all. A game or 2 where all the umpires and linesman are from the opposition club and watch how quick clubs get people to step up and do it.
Replying To Dunboyneskin01: "I agree and I would not blame the ref here.
I said in my other post that is should a rule that both clubs should provide 1 linesman and 2 umpires and if they fail to provide them the opposition is given the right to provide them all. A game or 2 where all the umpires and linesman are from the opposition club and watch how quick clubs get people to step up and do it."
Absolutely, most dugouts are filled with injured players and management teams some of them could easily step up. If it improves the ability of the referee to make the right decision it's a huge plus
Replying To Dunboyneskin01: "I agree and I would not blame the ref here.
I said in my other post that is should a rule that both clubs should provide 1 linesman and 2 umpires and if they fail to provide them the opposition is given the right to provide them all. A game or 2 where all the umpires and linesman are from the opposition club and watch how quick clubs get people to step up and do it."
I was at a second team game the week before last - one of the teams was playing the same night as their firsts! They had 2 managers and 15 players and it didn't look like there was one supporter! i suspect they were at the first team game!! The home club supplied both umpires and linesmen and there was zero hassle!!