"Why Should Anybody Have The God-Given Right To See All Games On Television?" - 19 Like(s)
"Why should anybody have the God-given right to see all games on television? That was never the case back in the day and we all survived. Just because it's a luxury that's available nowadays and some people can pay for it, other people may choose not, and we'll all have the luxury of seeing highlights afterwards if we didn't go to the game."
I don't think I've read something so spot on RE: televised games in all my life.
People might not like hearing it, but its true. Good man Mickey.
All this mumbo jumbo about the elderly who cant make it to the game, or people who cant afford it, or those in care homes etc, while its unfortunate and not nice that those people cant see their county play on tele, What about 30 or 40 years ago when there was one game a week if you were lucky?. How did the elderly, people who couldn't get to the game itself, or those in care homes manage to see their county back then ? They didn't.
And whats more, it only seems to be an issue talked about for the big games. What about followers of Sligo football for example ? Wicklow, Antrim football. The ulster and Connaught hurling teams ? None of their games were broadcast live to the elderly or those who couldnt afford to go to in Sligo, Wicklow, antrim etc. Nobody cared about them. Nobody was having a go at RTE/SKY etc for not showing Any Wicklow football games to the elderly in Bray or Greystones, those in Wicklow care homes that may want to watch their county.
The fact of the matter is this, There is more GAA games shown live/exclusively live now than ever before. Its impossible to please everyone. Its unfortunate but if for whatever reason you cant go the game and its not shown on tele, then that's just how it is. Some of us support other teams in other sports, we cant go to all their games, we cant watch them all on the box either, you don't hear other fans giving it socks about their organisations being a disgrace.
Its impossible to show every single inter county game on tele, and every single club game on tele. Impossible. But of course you have the cry-a**ing GAA people who moan and whinge and want everything for free, as if the whole organisation runs on monopoly money. Have a day off.
I drive a VW golf, and id love to buy a brand spanking new one in January, but I cant afford it. So I wont get one. Do I expect VW to just bend over and hand me one FOC cause I want one ? no. So why should we expect to be able to watch games for free on the telebox ? Where does this type of pathetic, entitlement come from ?
waynoI (National) - 06/08/2019 13:47:13
Meath V Fermanagh - 17 Like(s)
RD it's mad how many thumbs down you get from your fellow county men
waynoI (Meath) - 21/03/2019 15:07:32
Meath V Dublin - 17 Like(s)
how do you know who Dublin are/aren't worried about ?
you go on like this "In The Know" character on here. Nobody knows anything about what the Dublin management feel outside of the camp cause nothing gets out.
You have told this fantasy story about how some fella in the stand in PL was raving about James Conlon v Carlow
And you expect us to take your word on that ?
Have a day off dude! You chat absolute guff, nothing you say can be taken seriously.
waynoI (Meath) - 16/06/2019 13:58:49
Meath V Dublin - 17 Like(s)
What are you even talking about ?
Im talking about RD thinking he is a guy with inside knowledge of everything, even the Dublin camp. Nobody on this forum from anywhere knows whats going on in the Dublin camp or can say Dublin genuinely fear anyone. Therefore everything out of RD's mouth is nonsense, like almost every single one of the points he makes. Lives in a fantasy world.
Of course Jim Gavin wont be taking Meath lightly, where did I say he would?
waynoI (Meath) - 16/06/2019 16:20:42
NFL Division 1 - 17 Like(s)
Fair play for the concern Rich me oul bud but with 7 all Irelands in the last decade, millions of leinsters, Allianz leagues, unbeaten record and the like, Even if the whole thing was to fall apart under Farrell I reckon id be happy with our lot for a few years. No pressure on us. But still like, we will play D1 football next year despite being brutal in the league so far so every cloud and all that...
waynoI (National) - 03/03/2020 12:42:30
Disingenuous, Disgusting, Odious, Nasty!! - 16 Like(s)
Just some of the words Ewan McKenna placed ina tweet about Jim Gavin over the weekend.
I think that's very harsh if you dont know the man personally. Totally uncalled for in my view.
If people want to talk about Dublin playing two games in croke park, their finances, population etc then fine I respect that, and if people feel jim gavin comes across as a bit patronizing and boring, fine, I accept that too, but surely McKenna went over the line in describing jim as disgusting, nasty and odious..
Or maybe he didnt?
Am I just reading too much into it ? Seems very personal to me. No need for it.
waynoI (National) - 22/07/2019 14:22:11
O Byrne Cup 2019 - 15 Like(s)
like i said its only an obc game so yeah wouldn't be overly stressed out if i was a Meath fan, all im saying is considering the advantages meath had over dublin in terms of training in their legs, more game time (3 games to dublins 0) therefore more experience or the new rules, a stronger starting team etc, i expected Meath to win comfortably especially when they where 1-04 to 0-02 up, and while you dont write the whole season off based on an obyrne cup game in January, id be a bit downheartened by that, but some are glass half empty kinda people and some are glass half full. each to their own.
i agree alot of dublin guys would have gone out trying to prove a point, but then so did Meaths lads especially the forward players. The defence was strong in personnel anyways. And it doesnt matter how hard the dublin lads where trying to prove a point, theyre still 3rd string you cant get away from that just cause theyre trying to prove a pt. Thats kinda the whole idea of lads trying to make it... theyll work hard
waynoI (Meath) - 13/01/2019 11:29:40
Meath V Kildare - 15 Like(s)
You say "Meath have a slight eye on a certain bigger blue fish" and in the next breath follow that up with "we cannot and must not be complacent". The irony of your post isnt lost. Hope they murder yous ha
waynoI (National) - 08/11/2020 20:00:46
38 In-A-Row - 15 Like(s)
Not sure what the Dublin footballers have to do with a Waterford club winning 38 SLF titles in a row but there ya have it, Dublin living rent free in Kerrys head.
Well done Ballymacarbry.
waynoI (National) - 24/09/2019 11:07:04
Dublin V Tyrone All Ireland Final 2018 - 14 Like(s)
I'd be confident enough that that's what will happen. For me, and I could turn out with ally of egg on my face, I don't think Tyrone are all that. they will get stuck in and put it up to us, They will be well rallied and dying to get at us, but Dublin have the superior footballers, superior bench and won't be getting complacent, which is enough for me.. honestly ? I don't give a rats what people think about our domination, i don't care if people will talk our success down on here, I don't care if people think it's bad for the game, no matter what happens we will be castigated by everyone, win well and we will be the death of the game for our success, lose and you'll get but we will be back again blah blah blah so let's just go and batter them and watch everyone lay into us for being bleedin dynamite ... I'd love us to do a 12 13 14 point no mercy job but I'll take another one point win now
waynoI (Dublin) - 17/08/2018 14:04:03
Return Of The Championship - Excited ? Not Overly Bothered ? - 14 Like(s)
Personally ? I'm struggling to get up for it. For obvious reasons it wont be the same and you can totally understand why. Not being able to go is my issue. Most of us will be in the same boat in that we aren't used to that. The main thing for me going to games down the years is you feel involved. Obviously that'll be totally different now. I cant say I've watched a minute of GAA action since Dublin's last league game against Tyrone in Omagh which feels like about 2 years ago at this stage. Maybe when our game throws in against Meath tomorrow night ill be right up for it, but right now its just a bit meh.
I can promise this however, When this is all over I will never ever take for granted the stuff i used to take for granted.
As an aside, I really, genuinely hope everyone is doing okay. Its a tough time at the minute and one we never saw coming this time last year. I'm lucky in that I'm still working but me bird is being made redundant in early December, right before Christmas which is grim so I'll have to be there to keep her spirits up.
Please look after yourselves, your partners, your mothers and fathers, Brothers and Sisters, grandparents, friends, neighbours etc especially with the days getting shorter and the bad weather that'll start to arrive in the winter months. Its going to be absolute graft for a lot of us.
If you need to talk, Don't be afraid to reach out. Someone will listen and crucially, you can be somebody else's someone. We all need to look out for one another and ourselves and make sure if there is someone at a low ebb along the road, that we can pick them up keep going forward, putting one foot in front of the other.
It might not seem it right now, but things will get better and one day and with each passing day, is a day closer to putting all this behind us, even if the numbers don't make that look likely right now.
I cant say when, but I can say that in time, Life will return to normal and everyone who comes through it, will be stronger for the experience.
One day we will all be going to games again. Drinking pints, over analysing the most minute details as if were part of our counties management team and we will raise a glass to those we lost along the way but also in hope that we don't see dark days like these again
Until then, Keep the flag flying. Take care
waynoI (National) - 16/10/2020 11:58:40
Meath V Dublin - 14 Like(s)
Everyone knows what a win/narrow defeat will do for meath in terms of confidence going forward.
Meath have had a really good year and the progress has been clear for all to see, so what if Dublin dish out an absolute pasting.
What if Dublin start well, get a lead, as a result are drained of confidence, Dublin show no let up and win by upwards of 15 points. What affect does that have on yous as a fanbase but also to the team
waynoI (Meath) - 18/06/2019 16:38:09
2019 Division 1 League Final. - 14 Like(s)
Jesus a Kerry man interested in a league final ? If this continues someone will need to take matters into their own hands and hire a mini bus
waynoI (National) - 24/03/2019 20:40:16
O Byrne Cup 2019 - 14 Like(s)
dont mean to be pedantic but its still a third strength dublin team
30+ lads where on a caribbean cruise.. thats our whole panel. Our first 15, our second 15 and so tonight was our third 15 with every single one of the 30 odd that went not involved/seeing game time.
just cause alot of those players may make other teams doesnt mean they arent dublins third strength. Thats like saying man city players that are regularly on the bench arent second choice vause theyd start for most pl clubs.
On the game, fully expected a meath win. They have more game time under their belt. Have beeb training longer, have had more in game experience with the new experimental rules, had a far more experienced team against a team who for the most part have never played together, a manager who was sitting on a cruise ship on monday, have played no games with the new rules and had players dropping all over the gaff with cramp late on, and only one run out where your 2 pt win in navan didnt do you justice. While you obviously dont read a whole lot into that, its a bit disconcerting as i said on the main forum.
I know RD states that McEntee will know whst he needs to address, tbh if he didnt know before nkw then he never will, he is a decent manager, but you cant get blood out of a stone and alas, the players at his disposal just arent good enough to compete with stronger Dublin teams and based on tonight where most your experienced fellas played some part, if they arent beating that Dublin team at this time of year then it's massacre stations in the summer if/when we play you with the main lads there.
waynoI (Meath) - 12/01/2019 23:14:15
MONEY - 14 Like(s)
Hope you are well bud.
I've done a small bit of research and from the studies ive done I can confirm that Dublin 2015-2019 is, a 5 in a row winning team thus making them the greatest team senior mens GAA team in both codes, of all time.
I can also confirm that Dublin will winter well.
And furthermore, I can confirm that in 2020, we will be going for 6 in a row.
Hope my studies help. Have a pleasant day.
My kindest regards.
waynoI (National) - 24/09/2019 11:01:42
Dublin V Tyrone All Ireland Final 2018 - 13 Like(s)
Can't disagree with that.. I know as a fan I want us to win this all Ireland more than any other so far and IF we win I'll want next years all Ireland more than this years etc ..
waynoI (Dublin) - 20/08/2018 14:09:44
2017 - 13 Like(s)
Well the back to back monkey is off our back, That in itself takes off alot of pressure.
Weve won 4 league titles back to back, And so i wouldnt mind seeing a little bit of experimenting until the Semi finals as i still think we have more than enough without the likes of Cluxton, Bernard, Diarmuid, Flynner (to name a few who could get a longer break) to still finish in the top 4 with Mayo, Kerry and Tyrone.
I say it at the start of every year, We have to give someone else a consistent run in goal in the OB cup and League, who that should be i dont know, thats for Jim and his selectors to figure out, but cluxton wont be around forever and we simply cant just throw whoever his succesor is into the deep end when Cluxton goes with little or no game experience with the panel outside of training matches. I wouldnt object to even giving Stephen one half in the league games, and his understudy the other half. Whatever, just show signs of blooding a new goalkeeper as that position has become one of the most important positions and could potentially be a springboard to any up and coming team, or as in our case, a team looking to improve despite being the best..
With Jack McCaffrey potentially coming back, (I cant see a scenario whereby he isnt involved if, as it seems he has, makes himself available) id see this as the perfect opportunity to do something with the midfield, Maybe try James McCarthy in there alongside Fenton and have a half back line of Lowndes, Small, McCaffrey (If O'Sullivan gets a longer break, if not, Small, OSullivan, McCaffrey) because as of now, i dont think Michael Dara is of the required standard. A lovely guy, A role model to the younger lads, But he sadly isnt good enough if this team strives to move forward and improve.
Id hope to see more of Cormac Costello and Paul Mannion. I think Cuala's involvment in the club hurling championship could see Con O'Callaghan miss alot of potential game time and so we wont see him play all that much i wouldnt think. But if he is available and commits to the football for 2017, I'd love to see him get minutes under his belt. He is a very promising youngster. Im not sure we will see Eoghan O'Gara play for Dublin again after his outburst at the banquet in October and subsequent absence from the Mansion house and Smithfield for the homecoming celebration, But if thats left in the past, I'd like to see him get a consistent run too because i believe he still has so much to offer.
Overall, before a ball is kicked in 2017, Id like to think that we can at least replicate our championship titles by winning Leinster and a third Sam in a row, We remain the team to beat and while its everyone elses job to improve, Its also vital that we improve aswell if we are to keep our seat at the top table. Too early to make any predictions but im looking forward to another year supporting this incredible bunch of lads.
waynoI (Dublin) - 09/12/2016 11:17:17
Get Our League Games Out Of HQ !! - 13 Like(s)
touched on it on the main forum
I remember going to CP and the excitement would be building up and youd count down the days weeks and months to getting back there. Its one of the best stadia in Europe, The centre-piece of our games, the holy grail, The mecca of GAA venues and going there for a Dublin league game is lifeless. Its dull, its uninspiring, its boring, its insipid. There is no sense of occasion, Its not vibrant. There is just nothing.
I appreciate every single side of the argument that you want to throw at me. Youd be turning people away bla bla bla, The people clearly didn't care for it last night, maybe the decided to stay in out of the cold, watch the rugby, etc, Maybe the increased prices where a contributing factor, Maybe its the fact people arent enjoying the product anymore, maybe its all of the above, I agree that all are influences, but ultimately, What I used to post on here much to peoples annoyance where posts about how I love Croke Park etc, but I don't love it anymore, If anything I resent going to the place, ive totally fallen out of love with it.
I love watching Dublin, This is the greatest Dublin team of all time, Its pleasure to watching them and ive paid and will continue to pay to watch us long, long after the winning dries up cause these good times are coming to an end, or at least the run of all Irelands in a row is, be it this year or next, My passion for watching Dublin has never disappeared, that's not my issue, Playing games in a lifeless venue is.
Last night benefits nobody. There wont be any money made for the coffers there you wouldn't think, The players enetered the pitch to a odest clap like youd see at the golf, and these games (okay, last night an exception) are generally the most competitive games we will see because once the league is over and the championship provincials start, the hammerings will be back until maybe the super 8's
Totally disillusioned. Get us back to Parnell park, and if people have to miss out, tough, They don't move games in other sports to accommodate more fans, your home venue is your home venue and if it doesn't cater to the demand you have a few options, you either A) accept that people will miss out (which would be a shame, but hey ho) B) expand PP, or C) build a new ground somewhere that can accommodate 25-30k.
Cause the Croke park magic is gone. Tralee next week is to me what Croke park should be, instead, Croke Park feels like the chore and Tralee is the most exciting GAA occasion until a potential AI semi final or final, and that's sad.
waynoI (Dublin) - 03/02/2019 13:54:22
Considered Opinion - 13 Like(s)
Of course the score is a true reflection of the game, Dublin took their chances on the day, Meath did not, and the score reflects that fact absolutely perfectly. Does it show how good Meath are though in general, probably not, because on another day, they score a few more, but by that logic, on another day, Dublin score a penalty, On another day jack McCaffrey maybe goes for goal instead of fisting it over the bar from 8 or 9 yards out and on another day, Dublin are absolutely flawless from the get go, and rack up a much bigger tally and up the gears early doors and really annihilate Meath, but the game wasn't played on another day and so you judge it on yesterday and yesterday Meath's performance ended in the result it deserved, and that was a 16 point defeat. IC level against the top teams can be a very, very sobering experience and it can turn ugly very quickly, especially when you aren't experienced in playing them top teams on a regular basis. Beating teams of a similar standard can make it seem like youre making bigger strides than what you actually are.
Speaking of reflections, is it *really* a mad coincidence that it didn't work yesterday against a top top team, Maybe yesterday when you look back, WAS a true indication that Meath just aren't ready for Dublin, despite the all the bravado and history lessons from certain posters were giving about putting it up to Dublin in the past. f you take a step back and actually analyse it in the cold light of day, what evidence was there pre match that Meath could really take a cut at Dublin ? Alot of it seemed to come from the heart and emotion of decades ago, saying teams in the distant past could, and how they would have this Meath heart and passion. Problem with that logic is tht they where much better Meath teams, but more to the point, This version of Dublin under Jim Gavin aren't just the best Dublin team of all time, they're arguably the best gaelic football team of all time. - Put Dublin of very recent times up against a Meath team who hadn't played a D1 team in Croke Park since the last time they played Dublin in 2016 (when they lost by 10 points), Who hadn't played in a Leinster final since 2014 (which also resulted in a 16pt defeat), A team who 12 months ago lost to Longford in Leinster and this year beat three D3 sides to get to the final - should anyone really have expected anything but a very comfortable Dublin win ?
If you want, you can go further and add to the equation this Dublin teams experience of winning games, The fact that since Meath last beat Dublin in 2010, we won 6 all Irelands out of 8, including the last four. Weve consistently played the rest of the top teams in Ireland, home and away in the league - and won. Any mental baggage of that defeat in 2010 has long been forgotten, None of them care about losing to Meath. Then turn it around, Apart from G.Reilly, how many of that Meath team have never mind beaten Dublin, but been in a competitive game against them ? Up until yesterday, When did Meath last play in front of a crowd of 47,000 ? Expecting that current Meath team to rock up and scare Dublin was pie in the sky stuff. Its like hoping an army of one can go to battle with a plastic knife and beat an army of 100 with fully loaded Ak47s and sub machine guns.
waynoI (Meath) - 25/06/2019 00:01:30
Could it prove to be.. - 13 Like(s)
It could have been, If Mayo attack and score a goal to win the game.
But then whos to say Diarmuid doesn't play it short and someone loses concentration and they break and score the equalising point/winning goal as a result ?
I've no problem with him going for it.
If we go on to lose next Saturday, it wont be because of Connolly taking a shot instead of passing in the game before.
It will be won in the 70 minutes next Saturday for one team or the other and last week has absolutely no relevance now. Its done.
Make up for it next week by actually turning up and battering them. We are better them, I 100% believe that.
waynoI (Dublin) - 23/09/2016 11:21:48