Non-Gaa Forum - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Doylerwex: "They are different though.
Banking is unfortunately a necessary evil.
Landlords are not. Not all, but many are white collar criminals rubbing their hands while everyone becomes more and more hopelessly miserable.
That sarcastic post is over the top but honestly the lack of empathy you've shown has shocked me.
I don't know you. You might be a lovely fella, but I cannot wrap my head around how anyone could try to justify the state of our housing market.
There's no rationale. It's the darkest period in modern history and we're destroying our society.
By and large we're a really charitable people, but we're turning into greedy monsters.
What our own elites are doing to people now is a thousand times worse than 800 years of oppression we suffered." I would say the conversation has resorted to hyperbole but I am worried you actually believe rubbish.
Nobody has put forward a formula on how to solve the problem. Have you met a builder out of work? how would you suddenly create new houses - ask Leggo to get involved?
There is nothing wrong with landlords and they are necessary as not everyone can afford or want to take on a mortgage. So what you are asking for is for the state to discriminate against them by saying that the property they are in they need to leave because the landlord needs to sell it to someone who wants to own it and live in it. Ireland took its addiction to owning the house from the UK, in Europe the concept of renting is far common but then again Europeans do not have the same need to show that by owning property they are somehow better than others.
Banks are part of the problem and if you think that they are not taking advantage of the situation they you are pretty naive.
I don't believe anyone hasn't got empathy for people stuck in the current crises however believing in simple solutions is not helping.
zinny (National) - 29/03/2024 06:35:43
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Non-Gaa Forum - 2 Like(s)
Replying To cavanman47: "That's route 1.
Take your example of someone who applied themselves, rolled up their sleeves, and now finds themselves doing well for themselves. And ridicule and make all sorts of excuses as to how you simply must have been given your deposit from your parents, won the lotto, met lady luck in a champagne bar in Saint Tropez. .etc.
There's simply no way that you can be telling us the truth. You MUST have been given an advantage not available to everyone else!
He's also tried route 2.
I presented a snapshot in time the other day of what was available for a working person who was single, earning minimum wage (above the social housing threshold), working in or around Dublin and needing to live close by, etc.
And the attitude was: why would you want to live in "relative squalor"?.
Why can't I stay in the job I currently work, where I feel I'm not paid enough, and still get that 3 bed townhouse in Monkstown overlooking the coast within 30 seconds of the DART?
For those worrying about our country changing too much, fear not! Irish begrudgery is alive and well!" What are you on about Monkstown?. Try to see the big picture and stop trying focus on yourself or individuals. Not one thing I've said is directly related to my own circumstances. It's a noted trend that people who crow about being self-made are far from it. I could say I donate houses to the poor and insist you believe me. Anecdotal evidence seems irrelevant until its your own anecdotes about working harder than others and your idiot, wasteful friends.
I actually had 3 jobs pre-covid. 2 are gone now, but you've both jumped to wild conclusions about me to suit yourselves so spare me the righteousness.
Lads look up the snapshot on daft referenced to see the ****holes cavanman47 thinks minimum wage workers deserve to live in on the maximum mortgage available to them
Breffni40 (National) - 28/03/2024 14:42:51
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Westmeath Football thread - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Claretandblue: "A disappointing few days on the football front despite promotion to Div 2 on Sunday. It's pretty clear that the nucleus of our senior team are nearing the end of their careers at that level and div 2 next year will be a massive challenge to gain the 5-6 points necessary to avoid immediate relegation. Temple was in Louth for the minor game and gave a detailed summary, think their playing Kildare next and Kildare hammered Meath last night, Kildare minors in recent years have been Leinster's best side consistently, the Kinnegad showing on Tuesday at under 20 level was very concerning, Dublin were superior in every facet of play, our skill levels couldn't cope with their tackling, physicality, their centre back Clyde Burke would be on 25-26 senior inter county teams already, outstanding player, obviously our 20s got the toughest possible draw with Meath away next, a promising Meath side based on under 17 success in 2021, another tough test, hopefully our sides can show grounds for optimism." Are you saying we shouldn't have tried to get promoted. Unless we aim big and get the scahills, leechs,bakers, drumms whittakers of this world playing against better teams, how are we supposed to develop as a county. Please god its not the aim of a few on here to just compete at div 3. As a county we need to be playing against the best. We might get relegated next year, we might get promoted next year, who knows, but I'd rather be competing in div 2 than 3. Westmeath had 20+ players, playing sigerson, absolutely brilliant to see,j lynam getting into college team of year, brilliant. Hopefully get a good performance sat a d set ourselves up for wicklow. A leinster final is very achievable this year, why not. Best of luck
Upforthegame23 (National) - 28/03/2024 19:17:30
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Non-Gaa Forum - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Doylerwex: "They are different though.
Banking is unfortunately a necessary evil.
Landlords are not. Not all, but many are white collar criminals rubbing their hands while everyone becomes more and more hopelessly miserable.
That sarcastic post is over the top but honestly the lack of empathy you've shown has shocked me.
I don't know you. You might be a lovely fella, but I cannot wrap my head around how anyone could try to justify the state of our housing market.
There's no rationale. It's the darkest period in modern history and we're destroying our society.
By and large we're a really charitable people, but we're turning into greedy monsters.
What our own elites are doing to people now is a thousand times worse than 800 years of oppression we suffered." Point out one time I tried to justify the housing market please. I'm well aware it's very very difficult.
What I don't buy is the assumption that landlords are exclusively to blame, or even if they're contributing in any major way at all to the crisis. (remember, there were landlords in the 90s when there was no crisis).
I'm also sceptical as to whether ordinary workers are as helpless in this situation as is being portrayed. I'm sorry but lots of people are just way too careless with their money, and lots don't even seem inclined to try and even earn money to begin with. Saying that doesn't make me heartless.
Banks maybe a necessary evil, but their overly stringent lending rules are not a necessary evil. I can't understand why you avd ocean seem so determined to back them up here.
Seeing as how the government isn't building homes, and the banks aren't lending money, if anything it's the landlords who are more of a "necessary evil"
Galway9801 (National) - 28/03/2024 19:56:10
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Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Breffni40: "What are you on about Monkstown?. Try to see the big picture and stop trying focus on yourself or individuals. Not one thing I've said is directly related to my own circumstances. It's a noted trend that people who crow about being self-made are far from it. I could say I donate houses to the poor and insist you believe me. Anecdotal evidence seems irrelevant until its your own anecdotes about working harder than others and your idiot, wasteful friends.
I actually had 3 jobs pre-covid. 2 are gone now, but you've both jumped to wild conclusions about me to suit yourselves so spare me the righteousness.
Lads look up the snapshot on daft referenced to see the ****holes cavanman47 thinks minimum wage workers deserve to live in on the maximum mortgage available to them" I posted links to 4 properties last night, all perfectly ready to move in, not ****holes by any means.
(Guessing post wasn't allowed because of the links, but look for yourself, properly this time, they're in Navan, Kilmessan and Athy)
If someone (not you specifically) is in a position to call a turn-key property within commuting distance of Dublin city centre a "****hole" or "relative squalor", then their plight might not be quite as bad as is being portrayed on here.
cavanman47 (National) - 29/03/2024 08:47:08
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Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)
Replying To zinny: "I would say the conversation has resorted to hyperbole but I am worried you actually believe rubbish.
Nobody has put forward a formula on how to solve the problem. Have you met a builder out of work? how would you suddenly create new houses - ask Leggo to get involved?
There is nothing wrong with landlords and they are necessary as not everyone can afford or want to take on a mortgage. So what you are asking for is for the state to discriminate against them by saying that the property they are in they need to leave because the landlord needs to sell it to someone who wants to own it and live in it. Ireland took its addiction to owning the house from the UK, in Europe the concept of renting is far common but then again Europeans do not have the same need to show that by owning property they are somehow better than others.
Banks are part of the problem and if you think that they are not taking advantage of the situation they you are pretty naive.
I don't believe anyone hasn't got empathy for people stuck in the current crises however believing in simple solutions is not helping." Just because Europe don't do it doesn't mean we should.
There are genetic markers of historical oppression that influence our desire to own something. This isn't me being emotive either, this is fact. It has nothing to do with being better than others. I small asset is not much for a lifetime of work.
Yes Europe are more into renting but you have security of tenancy, reasonable rents, you can have pets etc.
True not everyone can afford it, but a vast majority want to.
Do we all have to have standard construction methods? We can build five times as many modular homes without sourcing any new tradesmen.
Relaxing mortgage rules will make it worse. That will only increase competition for limited stock and ultimately increase prices.
The crisis is the banks fault. The taxpayer still holds considerable stake in most banks. We can further limit buy to let mortgages and increase/enforce vacant property penalties.
Then relax planning laws and rezone more land to increase supply of modular homes that can be delivered quickly.
Finance this via state housing agency or perhaps partnership with credit unions. The price is set at an affordable level and first come first serve.
That will solve the problem indefinitely.
Any job should provide enough to have a place to live, otherwise what is the point?
People need to live, not survive.
Doylerwex (National) - 29/03/2024 09:43:57
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The Limerick 5 In A Row, Will They Do It? - 1 Like(s)
Replying To oneoff: "Again easy to say you were worried about something after the fact.
As for someone who's so worried about facts. Is it a fact that Limerick won one All-Ireland from 1940 to 2018?" You are 100% correct. A vast gap without securing the top prize making what they've achieved now remarkable but also very difficult to concede it away. Limerick have had many great teams in that time but for one reason or another didn't get over the line. Limerick have had 2 generational teams in their history and the present one possibly the greatest the game has seen.
History is history and all countys have had fallow periods . Limericks AI wins have covered 126 years and 12 total. The current team have swept all before them and as the thread says they are attempting to do what no one has in the history of the sport. They've already achieved numerous records in the history of the game. A great game.
daveboy (National) - 29/03/2024 10:02:47
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Dublin GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Looking forward to the final, Dubs dud very well reaching it considering the start they had.
It was a successful league campaign, be nice to see a bit of tin off the back of it.
Think it all depends how Derry see this game, its the third league final in the last 10 years that Derry v Dublin have faced off in a league final.
Dubs have won the last two comfortably but Derry didn't seem fully up for those last two games, Dublin won comfortably.
Think it's the same again here, will all depend how Derry see this game and the application they put into it, I've a feeling Harte will have them very well prepared for this one, I've great time personally for Derry, both as a county and their county supporters, great city, top people.
May the best team win, looking forward to it
jimbodub (National) - 29/03/2024 10:47:24
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Monaghan GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Farney: "Drew would be a good goalkeeper. he would at least be safe under a high ball!!" Vinny also. Put him in goals - player manager.
muckla (National) - 28/03/2024 13:40:41
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Refs Sending Players To Sideline For / After Medical Attention - 1 Like(s)
Replying To TearsIn85: "Was at an Ulster U20 championship game last night , and the ref was very busy making sure players who received attention on pitch were subsequently banished to sideline a la soccer for a seemingly random amount of time.
Is this now a thing? I must have missed the memo. No one in the crowd around me had heard of it either." Three New Rules came alive on the 23rd of March.
1. Treatment of Injuries
Rule 1.5 (a) Injuries: General, Rules
of Control. Official Guide Part 2
(page 13) Now reads as follows:
Play shall not be stopped for an injury
to a player, except in exceptional
circumstances to enable a seriously
injured player to be treated on the field
or removed from the field of play. All
other injuries shall be treated off the
field off the field of play.
An injured player shall leave the field
at the nearest point. The player may at
a break in play, and only with the
referee's permission, return to the
Field of Play at the centre point of
either sideline.
2. Removal of Helmet
Rule 1.5 (b) Injuries: Blood or
Suspected Head Injury, Rules of
Control, Official Guide Part 2 (pages
13-14) - the following is added section
(iii):
(iii) A player in Hurling who during a
game removes their helmet or has had
it removed by a player/official on the
player's own side shall be presumed to
be potentially injured and shall be
instructed by the referee to
immediately leave the Field of Play to
be assessed for injury and the helmet
refitted.
The player shall not return to the Field
of Play until the next break in play, at
the earliest, and with the permission of
the referee.
3. Extra Time
Rule 2.5 - Rules of Specification -
The Players
Players in Extra-Time - Official Guide
Part 2 (page 7) now reads:
a) At the commencement of Extra-
Time, a team may replace any or all of
the Players on the field of play at the
conclusion of Normal Time
(b) A player ordered off in any
circumstance in Normal Time, may not
play in Extra-Time and may not be
replaced
c) A player in receipt of a Black Card
and ordered to the Sin Bin for ten
minutes with less than ten minutes
remaining in normal time shall be one
of the players on the List but shall
serve any remaining time in the Sin Bin
in Extra-Time.
d) A Caution (Yellow Card) issued in
Normal Time shall carry over into
Extra-Time as shall a Black Card. e)
The Referee shall be given a List of the
players starting Extra-Time, or a Note
clearly indicating the changes made
from that of the finishing team in
Normal Time.
This List/Note may be in single form
but shall otherwise comply with the
provisions of Rule 2.4 - List of Players.
f) In an Inter-County Game, only
players on the List submitted to the
Referee prior to the game may start
Extra-Time. g) Substitutions/
Temporary Substitutions shall be
allowed during the playing of Extra-
Time as outlined in Rule 2.3(ii) and
(iii).
In addition Rule 3.4 - Rules of
Specification -Time - Official Guide
Part 2 (page 8) now states as part (e)
that:
Extra-Time shall be considered to be a
continuation of Normal Time save
where provided for otherwise in these
Rules.
GDL (National) - 28/03/2024 13:54:24
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Refs Sending Players To Sideline For / After Medical Attention - 1 Like(s)
Super, appreciate the heads up lads. I'd heard about the extra time changes, but not the others
Refs need to implement the break in play return though. Saw lads very frustrated with not being allowed back on even when game stopped for frees.
Yet another thing for refs to manage, I suppose. As if they don't have enough to be doing
TearsIn85 (National) - 28/03/2024 14:19:10
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Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)
Replying To cavanman47: "That's route 1.
Take your example of someone who applied themselves, rolled up their sleeves, and now finds themselves doing well for themselves. And ridicule and make all sorts of excuses as to how you simply must have been given your deposit from your parents, won the lotto, met lady luck in a champagne bar in Saint Tropez. .etc.
There's simply no way that you can be telling us the truth. You MUST have been given an advantage not available to everyone else!
He's also tried route 2.
I presented a snapshot in time the other day of what was available for a working person who was single, earning minimum wage (above the social housing threshold), working in or around Dublin and needing to live close by, etc.
And the attitude was: why would you want to live in "relative squalor"?.
Why can't I stay in the job I currently work, where I feel I'm not paid enough, and still get that 3 bed townhouse in Monkstown overlooking the coast within 30 seconds of the DART?
For those worrying about our country changing too much, fear not! Irish begrudgery is alive and well!" Also I think begrudery is a very appropriate sense during a housing crisis that so many are benefitting from and will continue to do so
Breffni40 (National) - 28/03/2024 14:44:45
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Monaghan GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To TearsIn85: "And a BIG improvement in effort and efficacy from the team compared to the insipid performance vs Antrim. Big test next week vs Derry." Big improvement but still made it hard on themselves. Defence outstanding.
ORIELMAN85 (National) - 28/03/2024 14:47:33
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Provincial Championships 2024 - 1 Like(s)
Replying To omahant: "Yes, just another example of a flawed system.
I'd like all Prov KO ties counting as league ties with the two points on the line as well. Say, 12-10-10, with round robin plus a few crossover games to complete 12 regular season games, including any crossover Prov Champp ties." We have a perfect system. Maybe seed Provincials on League position,or maybe just leave it as it is which adds to the competivness of Div 2. Last year 14 of 16 teams had it all to play for on Game Day 3 in the Sam Maguire. No need for any cross overs or CONCAFs or Swiss styles. Well maybe just to keep little minds busy congratulating themselves.
ORIELMAN85 (National) - 28/03/2024 14:57:52
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Refs Sending Players To Sideline For / After Medical Attention - 1 Like(s)
No harm, there is a sinful amount of time wasting done by a lot of teams in both games.
ExiledInWex (National) - 28/03/2024 15:13:53
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Galway Hurling thread - 1 Like(s)
U20s beat Cork fairly handily in last challenge game before championship. Shaping up to be a strong side. They will be at a bit of a disadvantage in playing Offaly in Tullamore and Offaly will have a championship game already played at that stage.
galway19 (National) - 28/03/2024 17:32:20
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2024 League Finals Predictions - 1 Like(s)
Replying To mickcunningham: "am i missing something , westmeath and down drew during the league . now suddenly down are 5 and 6 points better . explain please" Am I missing something, Leitrim beat Laois by 1 point during the league. Now suddenly, you have Laois 4 points better. Explain please.
Cockney_Cat (National) - 28/03/2024 19:01:00
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Galway Hurling thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To galway19: "U20s beat Cork fairly handily in last challenge game before championship. Shaping up to be a strong side. They will be at a bit of a disadvantage in playing Offaly in Tullamore and Offaly will have a championship game already played at that stage." It won't matter. You can lose both group games and still will go through.
Viking66 (National) - 28/03/2024 19:53:25
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Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Breffni40: "What are you on about Monkstown?. Try to see the big picture and stop trying focus on yourself or individuals. Not one thing I've said is directly related to my own circumstances. It's a noted trend that people who crow about being self-made are far from it. I could say I donate houses to the poor and insist you believe me. Anecdotal evidence seems irrelevant until its your own anecdotes about working harder than others and your idiot, wasteful friends.
I actually had 3 jobs pre-covid. 2 are gone now, but you've both jumped to wild conclusions about me to suit yourselves so spare me the righteousness.
Lads look up the snapshot on daft referenced to see the ****holes cavanman47 thinks minimum wage workers deserve to live in on the maximum mortgage available to them" Ocean seems totally unwilling to entertain any criticism of the banks.
So I'll ask you. Do you think that the maximum mortgage available to them is fair?
Galway9801 (National) - 28/03/2024 21:25:26
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Galway Hurling thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To galway19: "U20s beat Cork fairly handily in last challenge game before championship. Shaping up to be a strong side. They will be at a bit of a disadvantage in playing Offaly in Tullamore and Offaly will have a championship game already played at that stage." Good sign for ye, would have had Cork as All Ireland favourites.
TerribleFootwork (National) - 28/03/2024 21:35:42
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