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Anti GAA Agenda - 6 Like(s)
Replying To KillingFields: "Its not anti GAA people. Its people with common sense. And left wing media?? Give me a break.
Like most of ireland the media is significantly right wing. only have to look at the power dave quinn and iona institute. breda o brien etc have for example." Correct. Having lived and worked among GAA haters in Dublin for decades, the anti Irish culture folks do exist, though, in my view, their numbers are diminishing. I worked in middle class white collar environments in Dublin, and their guard was down, as they assumed (wrongly) that GAA people were all blue collar, so I had a fascinating (and depressing) education in posh Irish cultural attitudes. The sniggering about "the Gah" and "diddley-aye" music. The natural assumption that wild GAA fans would vandalise their cars and property after matches in Croke Park. The faux concerns about the supposed "violence and thuggery" of Gaelic matches. The air of amused contempt on learning that I followed GAA, as if I wasn't yet fully civilised. The cultural loneliness of not being able to chat about a match with any colleagues, unless you were lucky enough to have a Kerry colleague as among all the yahs. (Kerry fans are, in my view, the most knowledgeable and the most objective / hard-headed GAA fans in the country.) Essentially, these anti GAA / anti trad people have inherited, and parrot, the attitudes of the English from 150 years earlier. They live in a sad and bitter little post-colonial bubble of posh bigotry which has direct cultural links right back to the establishment of the Pale and to the Statutes of Kilkenny. When I worked in white collar London, no English person had a clue about the GAA of course, but they were invariably open-minded and interested, with none of the petty snobbishness of their Irish counterparts.
But the posh Dubs (they never describe themselves as "Dubs" of course - and with that type of accent, it'd be pronounced "Dabs" anyway lol) are not the only anti-GAA cohort. The working class Dublin Premiership fan boy is even more bigoted; though the guys with a primary interest in local soccer tend to be grand.
Nor is it accurate, as some posters have done, to ascribe such attitudes to "the left". I'm afraid that the anti-GAA attitude co-exists naturally with a right wing, pro partition, anti Nationalist, middle class viewpoint. The GAA is also seen as representative of working class and rural culture, hence the Dublin middle class desire to distance yourself from the GAA is a way also of affirming your social status. For the Premiership fan boy, it's a way of affirming that you're not a yokel.
The reality is that, for varying reasons, the middle class right and the trendy left each have their reasons for dissing the GAA. It's quite contrived, and simply incorrect, to suggest that the anti GAA mentality is confined to a particular type of politics.
On a more positive note, my perception is that the anti-GAA cohort in the Irish urban middle class is in steep decline. In this century, it's been remarkable to see posh youngsters on Southside Luases carrying hurls.
It's why, even after 5 years of All Ireland misery, I never really begrudge the Dubs. And with the Tyrone team's safety-first brand of football (the Tyrone team plays a worse brand of football than the Tyrone clubs), it's just as well I don't mind the Dubs, as Tyrone's conservative style of play won't do much about it any time soon ...
essmac (National) - 24/10/2020 09:36:52
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Anti GAA Agenda - 6 Like(s)
There has been alot of vitirol sent the way of my local GAA Club these last few weeks after County final celebrations resulted in a number of lads testing positive for Covid. It seems like this is the chance every anti gaa person has waited for. And as the original poster said, the left wing media has it in for traditional Ireland whether that be the gaa or the church.
11jm11 (National) - 23/10/2020 21:03:16
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Anti GAA Agenda - 5 Like(s)
Replying To borisdblade: "Both codes are summer sports especially hurling and being from Limerick Im sure you can acknowledge that.
Several squads are already compromised and are forced to either give walk overs or play with peripheral players.. This will most likely continue leaving the championship looking more like a Dr McKenna cup, McGrath cup, OByrne cup etc.." Virtually every team sport has had to alter and change it's competition's to crown it's yearly winners. Champions league went to 1 off knock out matches on neutral grounds, rugby had teams dropping out from various competition's, various US sports reduced amount of games or reduced playoff teams and some soccer league's in Europe just stopped and crowned the league leaders as champions. The GAA is a tiny organisation by comparison but it has employees to pay and you may call it greed but they need to get money in to survive. Look at the IRFU with a 35million euro hole and the trouble they are in-they have created a new competition with other rugby unions, is that Mickey mouse and greed in your opinion. If it's greed you want look at the Premier league and their antics in the past couple of weeks
Anyway as a Limerick fan I'm looking forward to the weekend and surely all sports fans can enjoy whatever sports they love and take pur mind's of Covid and the whole stupid blame game this country is involved in at the moment.
updwell (National) - 23/10/2020 23:22:46
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Anti GAA Agenda - 4 Like(s)
Replying To lilypad: "You're having a laugh, the media is embarrassingly left wing in this sad little island." Can you explain what you believe left wing means? If you are talking about the so called "woke agenda" or whatever its called thats not left wing. God we re getting worse than the USA for making everything left/right.
Left wing is an economic philosophy which few in Ireland are, socially liberal is what you are thinking of
Breezy (National) - 24/10/2020 10:47:57
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Galway Vs The Dub5 - 4 Like(s)
Kerry secure a 21st League title, not too bad for a county that never really took the competition too seriously.
Hopefully its good momentum to becoming Kerry38, but then again we wouldn't be so immature as to indulge in such silliness.
Perhaps Dublin could put a nice big star on their jersey, like the soccer teams do, to satisfy their fans obviously desperate need for such things.
TheHermit (National) - 24/10/2020 16:10:43
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Galway Vs The Dub5 - 4 Like(s)
Replying To TheHermit: "Kerry secure a 21st League title, not too bad for a county that never really took the competition too seriously.
Hopefully its good momentum to becoming Kerry38, but then again we wouldn't be so immature as to indulge in such silliness.
Perhaps Dublin could put a nice big star on their jersey, like the soccer teams do, to satisfy their fans obviously desperate need for such things." Surely is should be Dub$ anyway???? ;D
TheHermit (National) - 24/10/2020 16:18:49
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Anti GAA Agenda - 3 Like(s)
Replying To wexico15: "I wonder will the anti GAA mob on social media be also calling for rugby to be called to a halt due to the 12 barbarians players breaking covid protocols and their game against England been cancelled.somehow I doubt it
Firstly I'm aware amateur and professional have to be viewed differently and personally I'm fan of rugby the same as I am of GAA and soccer so don't want rugby to be viewed harshly, but the opportunism of the anti GAA mob on social media is obvious as much as it is tiredism, I wouldn't rule out alot of these people complaining possibly breaking restrictions in their personal lives having friends over for dinner etc." The 12 Barbarians are getting slated by the rugby media and they will certainly be punished and will most likely be hit with a significant fine. They will be made an example of.
The majority of anti GAA mob are anti sports and share similar views to Soccer and Rugby. The club celebrations hasn't helped the situation.
Any time someone makes point questioning the GAAs decisions, the response always reverts back to making comparisons with rugby and soccer..why? Are we not able to think for ourselves?
borisdblade (National) - 24/10/2020 09:51:14
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Hats Off To Antrim County Board And Footballers - 3 Like(s)
Replying To Canuck: "Waterford have befriend Antrim for ever and I am sure that will continue. You choose to ignore the facts. Waterford players were told they could not return to work if they went to Portglenone and would have to go into isolation. Now you turn it on me saying I should be ashamed for politicalizing it. I have never politicized any topic on this forum and did not on this subject either. That was done by others who stated Waterford were partitionists. I refereed to the 6 counties as N.I. because of this accusation. Grow up. It is only a football match and I am sure many of the people shouting off here could not give a sh-t about the status of football in lowly 4th division 31st ranked Waterford or Antrim either. We will probably be out of the championship by next week, forgotten about and you will have moved on to some hobby horse.
I will not indulge in calling names and making derogatory statements about any person or county on the whole island of Ireland.
Thank you again Antrim and I wish you all the best with both your football and hurling. You are a gem in the crown of the GAA. The same to all the Ulster teams." Much of what you say is true Canuck but what you are ignoring is that Letrim,Longford and Waterfords actions have consequences for the rest of us.Do you think none of the Westmeath hurlers dont have work problems?The reality is we are all in this together or we should give it up.I grant you the Letrim county councillor looking for notice started this.
jobber (National) - 24/10/2020 10:46:44
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NFL Division 2 - 3 Like(s)
Delighted to be going up,dissapointed two Ulster teams down, crazy division Cavan could have been promoted today.
sean og (National) - 24/10/2020 15:51:06
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Galway Vs The Dub5 - 3 Like(s)
Replying To superbluedub: "Perhaps you should get yourself a sense of humour ! Congrats Kerry well deserved." That's a very broad definition of humour you have there...
TheHermit (National) - 24/10/2020 16:38:29
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Galway Vs The Dub5 - 3 Like(s)
The Dub5:
1) St. Stephen
2) Cian Murphy
3) Davey Byrne
4) Fitzer
5) Johnny Small
6) Johnny Cooper
7) Robbie McDaid
8) Super Brian 1
9) Emett O C
10) Eric Lowndes
11) Kilkenny
12) Scully
13) PSmall
14) King Con
15) Deano
16) Evan
17) Seanie Bugler
18) Aaron Byrne
19) Darren Gavin
20) Super Brian 2
21) Tom Lahiff
22) Sean McMahon
23) Philly
24) Dara Mullin
25) Murch.
Galway:
1) Power
2) Kelly
3) Mullkerrin
4) Foley
5) Silke
6) O Donnell
7) Heanyey
8) D'Arcy
9) Flynn
10) Kelly
11) Conroy
12) Leonard
13) Finnerty
14) Varley
15) Burke
16) Gleason
17) S-A O'C
18) Bradshaw
19) McDaid
20) Barrett
21) Maher
22) Brannigan
23) Walsh
24) Sice
25) Connolly
26) Costello
TheUsername (National) - 24/10/2020 00:01:27
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Galway Vs The Dub5 - 2 Like(s)
Replying To TheUsername: "The Dub5:
1) St. Stephen
2) Cian Murphy
3) Davey Byrne
4) Fitzer
5) Johnny Small
6) Johnny Cooper
7) Robbie McDaid
8) Super Brian 1
9) Emett O C
10) Eric Lowndes
11) Kilkenny
12) Scully
13) PSmall
14) King Con
15) Deano
16) Evan
17) Seanie Bugler
18) Aaron Byrne
19) Darren Gavin
20) Super Brian 2
21) Tom Lahiff
22) Sean McMahon
23) Philly
24) Dara Mullin
25) Murch.
Galway:
1) Power
2) Kelly
3) Mullkerrin
4) Foley
5) Silke
6) O Donnell
7) Heanyey
8) D'Arcy
9) Flynn
10) Kelly
11) Conroy
12) Leonard
13) Finnerty
14) Varley
15) Burke
16) Gleason
17) S-A O'C
18) Bradshaw
19) McDaid
20) Barrett
21) Maher
22) Brannigan
23) Walsh
24) Sice
25) Connolly
26) Costello" 5till to come back in:-
PM
POCB
PA
MDMA
KMcM
JMcC
COS
CMcH
CC
CB
Fionn (National) - 24/10/2020 10:27:37
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Galway Vs The Dub5 - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Fionn: "5till to come back in:-
PM
POCB
PA
MDMA
KMcM
JMcC
COS
CMcH
CC
CB" Yep Pal, also ROC.
I wonder did we have plans for any of the U20 squad this year, similar to POCB last year, the postponement of the U20 final might have scuppered that. I think the rule is you cant play U20's in the senior team while that competition is still going on.
A few really have caught the eye.
TheUsername (National) - 24/10/2020 10:55:03
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Anti GAA Agenda - 2 Like(s)
All this left/right sh*te really is absorbing a lot of people. Does every human act have to be a political gesture now?!
SaffronDon (National) - 24/10/2020 11:41:40
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Anti GAA Agenda - 2 Like(s)
Roysh, nothing sickens me more than seeing the likes of clubs like Coola growing in the Southside. These sons and daughters of peasants can be seen walking around in their hideous jerseys clutching horls and dirty O'Neills Gahballs. Whole herds of them flock on the Dort every time their team plays in that oversized flea pit Croke Pork.
Everybody in Ireland knows that it is the boggers who are spreading the virus. After rolling around in the muck in some godforsaken field in somewhere like Ahascragh they head to the shebeen. where they are told to put their mobiles in a basket and proceed to slurp volumes alcohol out of a tin cup. Ban all Gaa activities I say. I'm surprised that the boys over in Montrose are televising these 'games".
avonali (National) - 24/10/2020 11:46:35
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Anti GAA Agenda - 2 Like(s)
Replying To KillingFields: "Its not anti GAA people. Its people with common sense. And left wing media?? Give me a break.
Like most of ireland the media is significantly right wing. only have to look at the power dave quinn and iona institute. breda o brien etc have for example." Incredible how you are wrong in nearly every post. To you Irish media are right wing (they must be the most left wing and woke of any EU country), rugby in Ireland is the everymans game as opposed to hyped up and purely elitist....it's almost impressive.
Crinigan (National) - 24/10/2020 11:52:50
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Anti GAA Agenda - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Donegalman: "Yes there is bias against the GAA within journalism but it is not for idealistic reasons.
Journalists are going mad for click bait stories now more than ever. The GAA or any other game that is playing whilst covid 19 is at large, is a story that will sell. This is especially so if there are outbreaks and if other sporting bodies are unable to play while the GAA are.
For instance, the golfing community will feel very hard done by as they are not allowed to play for 6 weeks. Their game is perceived as being elitist and also has had negative press associated with it twice in relation to covid headlines. IF you audit their game, you will find that there is virtually zero chance of getting covid on the course.
Can we say the same about the GAA as a full contact sport and the spread of covid?
"Attacks" on the GAA by journalists are measured and calibrated commentaries. Same with rugby and soccer.
the GAA is a very easy target for journalism as the organisation enjoys money from the tax payer, sponsorship and finally from fund raising at local levels. It is impossible not to have an opinion about any organisation who enjoys all 3 levels of income mentioned above. (not to mention gate receipts).
Yes there are elements of envy here, I will not deny this." Spot on. It's debatable at times whether they're even journalists, plagiarising other stories, getting sensationalised stories from Facebook, Snapchat and WhatsApp videos. When some newspapers have contact details asking you to give them some stories you know there's very little journalism going on there.
GreenandRed (National) - 24/10/2020 12:26:29
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Anti GAA Agenda - 2 Like(s)
Replying To essmac: "Correct. Having lived and worked among GAA haters in Dublin for decades, the anti Irish culture folks do exist, though, in my view, their numbers are diminishing. I worked in middle class white collar environments in Dublin, and their guard was down, as they assumed (wrongly) that GAA people were all blue collar, so I had a fascinating (and depressing) education in posh Irish cultural attitudes. The sniggering about "the Gah" and "diddley-aye" music. The natural assumption that wild GAA fans would vandalise their cars and property after matches in Croke Park. The faux concerns about the supposed "violence and thuggery" of Gaelic matches. The air of amused contempt on learning that I followed GAA, as if I wasn't yet fully civilised. The cultural loneliness of not being able to chat about a match with any colleagues, unless you were lucky enough to have a Kerry colleague as among all the yahs. (Kerry fans are, in my view, the most knowledgeable and the most objective / hard-headed GAA fans in the country.) Essentially, these anti GAA / anti trad people have inherited, and parrot, the attitudes of the English from 150 years earlier. They live in a sad and bitter little post-colonial bubble of posh bigotry which has direct cultural links right back to the establishment of the Pale and to the Statutes of Kilkenny. When I worked in white collar London, no English person had a clue about the GAA of course, but they were invariably open-minded and interested, with none of the petty snobbishness of their Irish counterparts.
But the posh Dubs (they never describe themselves as "Dubs" of course - and with that type of accent, it'd be pronounced "Dabs" anyway lol) are not the only anti-GAA cohort. The working class Dublin Premiership fan boy is even more bigoted; though the guys with a primary interest in local soccer tend to be grand.
Nor is it accurate, as some posters have done, to ascribe such attitudes to "the left". I'm afraid that the anti-GAA attitude co-exists naturally with a right wing, pro partition, anti Nationalist, middle class viewpoint. The GAA is also seen as representative of working class and rural culture, hence the Dublin middle class desire to distance yourself from the GAA is a way also of affirming your social status. For the Premiership fan boy, it's a way of affirming that you're not a yokel.
The reality is that, for varying reasons, the middle class right and the trendy left each have their reasons for dissing the GAA. It's quite contrived, and simply incorrect, to suggest that the anti GAA mentality is confined to a particular type of politics.
On a more positive note, my perception is that the anti-GAA cohort in the Irish urban middle class is in steep decline. In this century, it's been remarkable to see posh youngsters on Southside Luases carrying hurls.
It's why, even after 5 years of All Ireland misery, I never really begrudge the Dubs. And with the Tyrone team's safety-first brand of football (the Tyrone team plays a worse brand of football than the Tyrone clubs), it's just as well I don't mind the Dubs, as Tyrone's conservative style of play won't do much about it any time soon ..." Thanks essmac. Your post was well worth reading.
Greengrass (National) - 24/10/2020 12:48:29
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Galway Vs The Dub5 - 2 Like(s)
Replying To KillingFields: "Will they be Dub5 from now on instead of the Dubs?" Better than Dub6 lol
CiarraiMick (National) - 24/10/2020 15:49:48
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Anti GAA Agenda - 2 Like(s)
Replying To KillingFields: " Correct. Having lived and worked among GAA haters in Dublin for decades, the anti Irish culture folks do exist, though, in my view, their numbers are diminishing. I worked in middle class white collar environments in Dublin, and their guard was down, as they assumed (wrongly) that GAA people were all blue collar, so I had a fascinating (and depressing) education in posh Irish cultural attitudes. The sniggering about "the Gah" and "diddley-aye" music. The natural assumption that wild GAA fans would vandalise their cars and property after matches in Croke Park. The faux concerns about the supposed "violence and thuggery" of Gaelic matches. The air of amused contempt on learning that I followed GAA, as if I wasn't yet fully civilised. The cultural loneliness of not being able to chat about a match with any colleagues, unless you were lucky enough to have a Kerry colleague as among all the yahs. (Kerry fans are, in my view, the most knowledgeable and the most objective / hard-headed GAA fans in the country.) Essentially, these anti GAA / anti trad people have inherited, and parrot, the attitudes of the English from 150 years earlier. They live in a sad and bitter little post-colonial bubble of posh bigotry which has direct cultural links right back to the establishment of the Pale and to the Statutes of Kilkenny. When I worked in white collar London, no English person had a clue about the GAA of course, but they were invariably open-minded and interested, with none of the petty snobbishness of their Irish counterparts.
But the posh Dubs (they never describe themselves as "Dubs" of course - and with that type of accent, it'd be pronounced "Dabs" anyway lol) are not the only anti-GAA cohort. The working class Dublin Premiership fan boy is even more bigoted; though the guys with a primary interest in local soccer tend to be grand.
Nor is it accurate, as some posters have done, to ascribe such attitudes to "the left". I'm afraid that the anti-GAA attitude co-exists naturally with a right wing, pro partition, anti Nationalist, middle class viewpoint. The GAA is also seen as representative of working class and rural culture, hence the Dublin middle class desire to distance yourself from the GAA is a way also of affirming your social status. For the Premiership fan boy, it's a way of affirming that you're not a yokel.
The reality is that, for varying reasons, the middle class right and the trendy left each have their reasons for dissing the GAA. It's quite contrived, and simply incorrect, to suggest that the anti GAA mentality is confined to a particular type of politics.
On a more positive note, my perception is that the anti-GAA cohort in the Irish urban middle class is in steep decline. In this century, it's been remarkable to see posh youngsters on Southside Luases carrying hurls.
It's why, even after 5 years of All Ireland misery, I never really begrudge the Dubs. And with the Tyrone team's safety-first brand of football (the Tyrone team plays a worse brand of football than the Tyrone clubs), it's just as well I don't mind the Dubs, as Tyrone's conservative style of play won't do much about it any time soon ...
essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 760 - 24/10/2020 09:36:52 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
That has to be a parody right?
Yes there is bias against the GAA within journalism but it is not for idealistic reasons.
Journalists are going mad for click bait stories now more than ever. The GAA or any other game that is playing whilst covid 19 is at large, is a story that will sell. This is especially so if there are outbreaks and if other sporting bodies are unable to play while the GAA are.
For instance, the golfing community will feel very hard done by as they are not allowed to play for 6 weeks. Their game is perceived as being elitist and also has had negative press associated with it twice in relation to covid headlines. IF you audit their game, you will find that there is virtually zero chance of getting covid on the course.
Can we say the same about the GAA as a full contact sport and the spread of covid?
"Attacks" on the GAA by journalists are measured and calibrated commentaries. Same with rugby and soccer.
the GAA is a very easy target for journalism as the organisation enjoys money from the tax payer, sponsorship and finally from fund raising at local levels. It is impossible not to have an opinion about any organisation who enjoys all 3 levels of income mentioned above. (not to mention gate receipts).
Yes there are elements of envy here, I will not deny this.
Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3745 - 24/10/2020 11:05:52 Golf is completely elitist. link
Incredible how you are wrong in nearly every post. To you Irish media are right wing (they must be the most left wing and woke of any EU country), rugby in Ireland is the everymans game as opposed to hyped up and purely elitist....it's almost impressive.
Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 771 - 24/10/2020 11:52:50 No way at all is irish media most left wing in the EU." Crinigan (National) - 24/10/2020 16:40:25
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