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All Things Galway Hurling - 2 Like(s)
am i seeing things the report up where Kilnadeema bet Turloughmore, it says turloughmore are reigning champions lol, whoever is reporting needs to get their facts right!
preddan (National) - 17/10/2021 18:40:29
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Upcoming Special Congress - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Greengrass: "We're not stuck with the status quo of Option B is rejected. We are being asked to take the provincial championships out of the championship and to play them as pre season competitions. We are also being asked to bin the National League. Everyone agrees that the league is a great competition why bin it? Option B is a hybrid competition which will see half of the top 16 teams left without knockout championship football while all of the 16 teams below them will have knockout football either in the Sam Maguire or in the Tailteann Cup. The details of Option B haven't finalised yet because the details of the Tailteann Cup haven't been decidedypon. We are left with a hybrid competition where winning the leagues in the top two divisions will not be the primary motivation. Getting to the knockout stages of the Sam Maguire will be the primary option. Compare this mongrel competition to the structures in hurling. Every county in hurling takes part in the National League. This is then followed by five tiered competitions which are played off on a league basis with finals. The Liam McCarthy retained the provincial championships as a core element of the championship. What is available to the hurlers will be vastly superior to what will be available to footballers should Option B be passed. We are not stuck with the status quo if Option B is binned. We need to go back to the drawing board and come back with viable, equitable options. Option B is neither viable or equitable. It is a very poor option." We are stuck with the status quo if we don't change now. It's A, B or status quo. Delegates don't even have to vote in that way
I'm they have to vote for A which will be defeated
Then they get to vote for B
If B doesn't get 60% then it's the status quo
Despite the complaints about B - the current system is actually the worst of the 3 options
tirawleybaron (National) - 17/10/2021 08:43:29
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All Things Galway Hurling - 1 Like(s)
Replying To galwaylads2: "Give the new manager a chance to look at players in championship" I'm sure any halfway decent prospective manager knows who is playing well, or otherwise.
Stool Pigeon (National) - 16/10/2021 20:49:04
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Upcoming Special Congress - 1 Like(s)
Replying To wicklowsupport: "Gaelic Games compromises of professional counties who have resouces both financial and human capital, big sponsorship deals and these counties are pitted against teams who are largely amateur, small population, incompotent county boards, small sponsorship - run on a shoestring im comparison to their rich counterparts. Mayo versus Leitrim springs to mind. The two tier championship is designed to sideline these smaller counties and allow the big boys compete against themselves in the Al competition. No amount of restructing will level this sloped playing pitch. Centralise the sponsorship and distribute these funds evenly amongst the 31 counties. There is no way to even the population equation. At least allow counties compete on a level playing field for a five year period, if there is no improvement then restructure." How much money will it take to enable Leitrim to beat Mayo?
Seanfanbocht (National) - 16/10/2021 21:31:27
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Upcoming Special Congress - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Seanfanbocht: "And bring back 21 aside and point posts while you're at it!!!
I'm sure Leitrim would love 3 hammerings every year in a Provincial round Robin instead of only 1 as at present." Tell me how many times did Leitrim get hammered before the rules where changed as I mention very rarely. They were competitive while under the current rules they are whipping boys. New system does not raise standards it keeps those at the bottom down and those at the top up simple. Hq get to avoid having a level playing field
ulsterrules (National) - 16/10/2021 21:56:39
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Galway Club Football - 1 Like(s)
Junior Finals:
North Board: Claregalway B v Mountbellew/Moylough B
West Board: Moycullen B v Salthill/Knocknacarra B
Is this a slightly worrying trend? All B teams where in the main population is growing. No sign of smaller rural & struggling town clubs.
Would there be merit in following the Mayo, Donegal, Kildare (to name a few) systems of making a junior exclusive championship for first teams. It would limit second teams in not going past Junior A or a senior reserve championship but would surely help football in places like Ballinasloe, Athenry, Clonbur, Carna, FGEO, Clifden, Renvyle etc.
Thoughts?
Donaldtrump (National) - 16/10/2021 22:03:22
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Upcoming Special Congress - 1 Like(s)
To summarise the issues with the three options
current system
1. League is best competition but is played off in 2.5 months in bad weather
2. Provincial championship is lopsided and only 8 counties have a chance of winning one next year
3. 50% of counties will out of the championship by the 1st week of June having only played - 9 matches
4. There is a guaranteed 10 hammerings to be handed out in the provincial championship
Option B
1. All of the above problems except the worst counties in Ulster and three worst counties in Leinster will get a 10th game
2. Likely extra 2-3 hammerings added
3. All Ireland B for the worst 16 teams - 8 of which will have had at least 1 hammering and some will have had 2
4. Winning the B means you can be in it the following year so will have only a league promotion to play for in the 2nd year
Option C
1. 4-6 provincial league matches between Feb and March but will not be at full pelt
2. Guaranteed 7 championship games around the country v teams of same ability in April, May and June - far to competitive
3. Knockout football in July if you qualify for it - teams in div 1 who lose 3-4 matches in April/May/June don't get a chance to lose again in July
4. Hammerings limited to early spring -but unlikely as stronger teams will be experimenting
5. More matches and a longer season for players for weaker counties
tirawleybaron (National) - 17/10/2021 09:05:28
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Upcoming Special Congress - 1 Like(s)
Replying To wexico15: "Bit rich coming from the person whose best argument is 'ah league is league' and that's that no matter what anyone says." There were plenty of points made. You don't agree with me and I don't agree with you.. C'est la vie. We can do much, much better than Option B.
Greengrass (National) - 17/10/2021 09:34:45
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Upcoming Special Congress - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Seanfanbocht: "How much money will it take to enable Leitrim to beat Mayo?" The investment into the weaker that I refer to is to help the weaker counties reach a standard whereby they can compete against the well-resourced professional teams. Look how targeted investment worked in Dublin, why can't the same be done in the case of the weaker counties? By the way I am not talking exclusively about money, it could be expertise in S&C, diet or psychology. I don't believe for one minute that a new structured championship will bridge the gap between the professional run teams and the amateur run teams, it is falllacy. The objective is to take the weaker counties out of the championship and play the championshop amongst the elite - another form of the super 8. The GAA has sold its soul at intercounty level which is why i am planning to abandon it and just focus on the club scene.
wicklowsupport (National) - 17/10/2021 11:19:53
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Upcoming Special Congress - 1 Like(s)
Replying To wicklowsupport: "The investment into the weaker that I refer to is to help the weaker counties reach a standard whereby they can compete against the well-resourced professional teams. Look how targeted investment worked in Dublin, why can't the same be done in the case of the weaker counties? By the way I am not talking exclusively about money, it could be expertise in S&C, diet or psychology. I don't believe for one minute that a new structured championship will bridge the gap between the professional run teams and the amateur run teams, it is falllacy. The objective is to take the weaker counties out of the championship and play the championshop amongst the elite - another form of the super 8. The GAA has sold its soul at intercounty level which is why i am planning to abandon it and just focus on the club scene." Majority of counties S&C, diet is fine though. They have very good strength and conditioning coaches working with them. nutritionists the same.
Changing the format of inter county championship and having the top sides play each other more and other sides at their own level playing each other more is a good thing
What teams are run in an amateur way then?
KillingFields (National) - 17/10/2021 15:45:55
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