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Replying To ElGranSenor: "Was just thinking about this today (and some of these things we may already be doing) but I think we could do with doing the following....
U10/U11/U12 schools of hurling in November/December/January/February: One session a week indoors in each district with 3-5 of the best players at each age group from each club in the district
U14/U15/U16 district games in November/December/January/February: Would serve as de facto county trials. Could maybe expand it to 6 teams rather than 4 districts (Each play each other twice and then 1st play 2nd, 3rd play 4th, and 5th play 6th on the last day so 11 games in all, one every Saturday). Each club sends between 3 and 5 of their best players at each age group
League and Championship at U14, U16, and U18: Think we might already have a league for Minors? Makes sense IMO to have a league from late February onwards where County Minors don't play (Could allow 13-a-side depending on numbers) And have semi-finals and finals in June) and to then start the Championship proper in late June when the Leaving Cert and Junior Cert are over and also when the All-Ireland Minor Hurling Championship is over. I know some complain about playing finals late in the year (And similar complaints are made about U21) but the upshot is that lads train deeper into the year so they end up hurling more than ever
Suppose the point is that we fall behind other counties because we don't quite have the same hurling culture as them so outside of the training pitch, they're getting more hurling work done. If we expand our season, we might be able to make up for the fact our lads don't do as much hurling as them away from the training pitch.
Also, to play more months in the year, there's going to be a greater need for artificial pitches and floodlights (And integration will also put more pressure on pitches). Building these artificial surfaces won't necessarily make lads hurl any better but it will make it easier to train during the winter months (Some clubs may argue they don't really have the facilities and the pitches at the moment to facilitate winter hurling)" Another problem is alot of our lads play soccer and rugby in the winter too.
We have League at u16 too I think.
I think maybe some form of indoor county training once a week at u13, u14, u15 and u16 from October until Christmas would be more feasible from the point of view of cost and venue availability. We already have the venues. Something like the ASH at u12. Clare introduced something similar a few years back.
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Replying To Viking66: "Another problem is alot of our lads play soccer and rugby in the winter too.
We have League at u16 too I think.
I think maybe some form of indoor county training once a week at u13, u14, u15 and u16 from October until Christmas would be more feasible from the point of view of cost and venue availability. We already have the venues. Something like the ASH at u12. Clare introduced something similar a few years back." I'd say a lot of lads in other counties play soccer and rugby too though
Should have also added that I think there should be a clear link between the U19 and U20 teams, probably should be training together a few time as well IMO. The U19s should be given their own S&C programme in the early spring and then should be given another progamme after they're finished with the U19s so they're up to speed for U20 the following year
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Draw probably a fair result in the U20 game
Thought O'Brien was quiet enough for most of the game but he showed his class late on with the goal and the assist
Carley did well enough, good ball-winner, Dempsey did a good job winning the ball too although needs to look for the pass rather than going for the score
Not much between us and Kilkenny, Dublin are probably around the same level as us, it's just that Galway are streets ahead of everyone in Leinster
Kildare game is knockout for us now, basically a Preliminary QF, lose that and we'd also have to play one or two games to qualify for Leinster next year, I think
We're 23 points behind KK on score difference so we'd need them to lose to Galway and for us to beat Kildare and for the combined winning margins to be greater than 23 points
That game falls behind the first two Leinster SHC games so Galway will probably be resting both Niland and Rabbitte, they still have a lot of depth and quality though
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I looked back at the galway game and tbh, there was not 14 points between the two teams as I said, 5 or 6 max. Today I have to say a big well done to the team, very poor decision at the end to award kk a very soft free. We missed a goal chance, gave them their goal but overall we won the physical and aerial battle for the most part which was great to see. I think there is more in this team, make sure to beat kildare and I think we are more than capable of beating anyone on the other side.
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Replying To hunting: "I looked back at the galway game and tbh, there was not 14 points between the two teams as I said, 5 or 6 max. Today I have to say a big well done to the team, very poor decision at the end to award kk a very soft free. We missed a goal chance, gave them their goal but overall we won the physical and aerial battle for the most part which was great to see. I think there is more in this team, make sure to beat kildare and I think we are more than capable of beating anyone on the other side." Groups are very lopsided alright but at the same time, while I do think there are good hurlers on this team, Kilkenny people don't seem to be happy with the quality of their U20 team at all, I suppose that's because they've won more than anyone else and hold higher standards but I suppose if that's where we want to go, those are the same standards we must set
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Fair play to wexford. Much improved from last week. Very good on the breaks and rucks. Mooney is a fine hurler.
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "I'd say a lot of lads in other counties play soccer and rugby too though
Should have also added that I think there should be a clear link between the U19 and U20 teams, probably should be training together a few time as well IMO. The U19s should be given their own S&C programme in the early spring and then should be given another progamme after they're finished with the U19s so they're up to speed for U20 the following year" We have alot more lads playing soccer than Tipp say. We have over a dozen adult soccer divisions, they have 5.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19177 - 11/04/2026 16:34:33
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "Draw probably a fair result in the U20 game
Thought O'Brien was quiet enough for most of the game but he showed his class late on with the goal and the assist
Carley did well enough, good ball-winner, Dempsey did a good job winning the ball too although needs to look for the pass rather than going for the score
Not much between us and Kilkenny, Dublin are probably around the same level as us, it's just that Galway are streets ahead of everyone in Leinster
Kildare game is knockout for us now, basically a Preliminary QF, lose that and we'd also have to play one or two games to qualify for Leinster next year, I think
We're 23 points behind KK on score difference so we'd need them to lose to Galway and for us to beat Kildare and for the combined winning margins to be greater than 23 points
That game falls behind the first two Leinster SHC games so Galway will probably be resting both Niland and Rabbitte, they still have a lot of depth and quality though" Dublin struggled to beat Laois, Id say Laois will feel they left it behind them.
There's no advantage between finishing 2nd and 3rd afaik? And 2nd or 3rd might be better than 1st in the long run.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19177 - 11/04/2026 16:37:11
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "Groups are very lopsided alright but at the same time, while I do think there are good hurlers on this team, Kilkenny people don't seem to be happy with the quality of their U20 team at all, I suppose that's because they've won more than anyone else and hold higher standards but I suppose if that's where we want to go, those are the same standards we must set" Before a ball was pucked all the Kilkenny people I know had very high hopes for their u20 team.
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Another positive is I think we have used around 25 players in the 2 games? Exactly the way the group stage should be used.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19177 - 11/04/2026 16:39:10
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Good results for minors and 20s today.
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4427 - 11/04/2026 16:53:19
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Replying To Viking66: "Before a ball was pucked all the Kilkenny people I know had very high hopes for their u20 team." Im sure they still do btw
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19177 - 11/04/2026 17:29:44
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Replying To richiepmurphy: "Fair play to wexford. Much improved from last week. Very good on the breaks and rucks. Mooney is a fine hurler." What do you think about the way they have the groups?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19177 - 11/04/2026 17:30:38
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Ya, good weekend for wexford hurling, challenge cup team winning, under 19 and the result from the under 20 but we do need to keep building on all these results. Well done to all involves
hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1197 - 11/04/2026 17:43:29
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Replying To Viking66: "Dublin struggled to beat Laois, Id say Laois will feel they left it behind them.
There's no advantage between finishing 2nd and 3rd afaik? And 2nd or 3rd might be better than 1st in the long run." Think Dublin had a man sent off early in the first half
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1045 - 11/04/2026 17:45:10
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Replying To Viking66: "Dublin struggled to beat Laois, Id say Laois will feel they left it behind them.
There's no advantage between finishing 2nd and 3rd afaik? And 2nd or 3rd might be better than 1st in the long run." Think 2nd gets home advantage in the QF?
If 2nd in our group got through to the SF, they'd probably be away to Dublin
If 3rd in our group got through to the SF, they'd probably be away to Galway
Assuming Galway beat KK and Dublin beat Offaly
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1045 - 11/04/2026 17:47:20
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "Think 2nd gets home advantage in the QF?
If 2nd in our group got through to the SF, they'd probably be away to Dublin
If 3rd in our group got through to the SF, they'd probably be away to Galway
Assuming Galway beat KK and Dublin beat Offaly" There will be a draw for who plays who in the SFs if 3 teams from 1 group reach them, as repeat pairings are to be avoided if possible. Not sure if 2nd placed teams get a home QF, but it would make sense if they did.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19177 - 11/04/2026 18:12:00
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "Think Dublin had a man sent off early in the first half" Was around the 20 minute mark
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19177 - 11/04/2026 18:59:31
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "Draw probably a fair result in the U20 game
Thought O'Brien was quiet enough for most of the game but he showed his class late on with the goal and the assist
Carley did well enough, good ball-winner, Dempsey did a good job winning the ball too although needs to look for the pass rather than going for the score
Not much between us and Kilkenny, Dublin are probably around the same level as us, it's just that Galway are streets ahead of everyone in Leinster
Kildare game is knockout for us now, basically a Preliminary QF, lose that and we'd also have to play one or two games to qualify for Leinster next year, I think
We're 23 points behind KK on score difference so we'd need them to lose to Galway and for us to beat Kildare and for the combined winning margins to be greater than 23 points
That game falls behind the first two Leinster SHC games so Galway will probably be resting both Niland and Rabbitte, they still have a lot of depth and quality though" Galway have the best 19 year old hurler in Ireland, Aaron Niland and the supporting cast of Jason Rabbitte etc are top class too, all prominent with Galway senior team this year too.
Similar to Tipp last year with Darragh McCarthy, Sam O Farrell and Oisin O'Donoghue.
It makes a massive different to an un20 team to have senior county hurlers on it.
Hard to look past Galway for the un20 All Ireland.
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Replying To Viking66: "Was around the 20 minute mark" Yeah, tbh I think it's a bit like this atm...
Galway
KK, us, and Dublin
Offaly and Laois
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ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1045 - 11/04/2026 20:50:28
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