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Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "There is a strong hint of 'If we can't do everything we should do nothing' about many of the remarks here. There is a very specific difference between say Allianz and Amazon versus other companies involved in GAA activity... Allianz and Amazon are explicitly cited in the UN report linking them to material complicity in what was/is happening in Gaza.

Those protesting Allianz are perfectly legitimate in doing so IMO, and should also protest Amazon's involvement too. If that offends you, don't join the protest. But to try and de-legitmise it by making a 'let those without sin...' argument seems to me an excuse never to do anything unless it solve everything. You can't make any progress with that mindset."
Politics should be kept out of of sport end of. Allianz also insures Air lingus ye gonna stop flying with them for your holiers? Doubt it .
And the protest yesterday was a dusgrace and people actually got injured. What did they achieve by it ? Absolutely nothing pathetic !

S1234 (Mayo) - Posts: 905 - 01/03/2026 12:16:46    2659175

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I strongly condemn the Pro-Palestine protestors for using violence against GAA officials at Congress yesterday.
It's sickening. If they had Irish tricolours, they would been arrested for hate crimes probably.
GAA needs to send a strong message to the angry mob that attacked our Congress. Jarlath Burns is a decent man, and no doubt he will have more to say about this abuse from elements inside and outside the GAA.
Enough is enough.

maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1261 - 01/03/2026 12:27:31    2659177

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Hypocrisy is part of everyone's DNA.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3372 - 01/03/2026 12:38:06    2659179

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Replying To S1234:  "Politics should be kept out of of sport end of. Allianz also insures Air lingus ye gonna stop flying with them for your holiers? Doubt it .
And the protest yesterday was a dusgrace and people actually got injured. What did they achieve by it ? Absolutely nothing pathetic !"
Did you watch Peter Canavan's comments last night?

peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1471 - 01/03/2026 14:20:27    2659193

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Why should the GAA as a sporting organisation be pro-Palestinian?
Yes its wrong that the Palestinians are suffering in Gaza currently, yes there's a humanitarian crisis there, but the people who rushed the podium maybe shouldve stopped and thought about what has happened in the last 2000 plus years in that region, before taking sides.
"From the river to the sea" wasn't a phrase coined by the Israelis. In their eyes they are fighting for their right to exist. It doesn't justify the suffering in Gaza currently, but equally it does explain it. The 2 state solution proposed by the UN in the 1940s wasn't rejected by the Israelis, it was rejected by the Arabs. And the spark for the current suffering was the brutal attack by Hamas on October 7th, an attack that was always going to lead to a reaction, which was its purpose in the first place.
Im not pro Israeli or pro Palestinian, what happens there is none of my business, and it isnt a problem that I can solve either, even if I decided I wanted to.
Most importantly I'm certainly not a member of the GAA because I share every other members political, religious, social or ideological beliefs. What I do share with all the other members is a love of the games, and Id personally prefer that we as an Assocation should focus on what we are about. The preservation and regulation of those games. Which is the position our own Ethics Committee reached.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18600 - 01/03/2026 17:27:44    2659261

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Replying To Viking66:  "Why should the GAA as a sporting organisation be pro-Palestinian?
Yes its wrong that the Palestinians are suffering in Gaza currently, yes there's a humanitarian crisis there, but the people who rushed the podium maybe shouldve stopped and thought about what has happened in the last 2000 plus years in that region, before taking sides.
"From the river to the sea" wasn't a phrase coined by the Israelis. In their eyes they are fighting for their right to exist. It doesn't justify the suffering in Gaza currently, but equally it does explain it. The 2 state solution proposed by the UN in the 1940s wasn't rejected by the Israelis, it was rejected by the Arabs. And the spark for the current suffering was the brutal attack by Hamas on October 7th, an attack that was always going to lead to a reaction, which was its purpose in the first place.
Im not pro Israeli or pro Palestinian, what happens there is none of my business, and it isnt a problem that I can solve either, even if I decided I wanted to.
Most importantly I'm certainly not a member of the GAA because I share every other members political, religious, social or ideological beliefs. What I do share with all the other members is a love of the games, and Id personally prefer that we as an Assocation should focus on what we are about. The preservation and regulation of those games. Which is the position our own Ethics Committee reached."
The Palestinian suffering started long before October 7th. Ever hear of Nakba?

peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1471 - 01/03/2026 19:20:00    2659313

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The amount of champagne socialists in Ireland is worrying, so much virtue signalling

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 1056 - 01/03/2026 19:49:51    2659321

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Replying To Viking66:  "Why should the GAA as a sporting organisation be pro-Palestinian?
Yes its wrong that the Palestinians are suffering in Gaza currently, yes there's a humanitarian crisis there, but the people who rushed the podium maybe shouldve stopped and thought about what has happened in the last 2000 plus years in that region, before taking sides.
"From the river to the sea" wasn't a phrase coined by the Israelis. In their eyes they are fighting for their right to exist. It doesn't justify the suffering in Gaza currently, but equally it does explain it. The 2 state solution proposed by the UN in the 1940s wasn't rejected by the Israelis, it was rejected by the Arabs. And the spark for the current suffering was the brutal attack by Hamas on October 7th, an attack that was always going to lead to a reaction, which was its purpose in the first place.
Im not pro Israeli or pro Palestinian, what happens there is none of my business, and it isnt a problem that I can solve either, even if I decided I wanted to.
Most importantly I'm certainly not a member of the GAA because I share every other members political, religious, social or ideological beliefs. What I do share with all the other members is a love of the games, and Id personally prefer that we as an Assocation should focus on what we are about. The preservation and regulation of those games. Which is the position our own Ethics Committee reached."
Fully agree. This has potential to do huge damage. There are lots of places to do politics outside of sports.

One of few escapes from all of the nonsense and terrible stuff in world. Ditching Allianz won't make one bit of difference to the Palestinians who have been and are treated appallingly.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 4042 - 01/03/2026 20:06:52    2659331

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Replying To peiledoir20:  "The Palestinian suffering started long before October 7th. Ever hear of Nakba?"
Yes. Heard both sides of that story. Not sure which is correct as I wasn't there.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18600 - 02/03/2026 06:49:47    2659392

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Replying To Viking66:  "Yes. Heard both sides of that story. Not sure which is correct as I wasn't there."
Well maybe you shouldn't make presumptions on things you're "not sure" of.

peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1471 - 02/03/2026 09:16:26    2659410

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Replying To southmeathgael:  "The amount of champagne socialists in Ireland is worrying, so much virtue signalling"
Yeah complaining about the 65000 dead in Gaza is "virtue signalling".

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2729 - 02/03/2026 11:37:15    2659452

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Replying To Viking66:  "Why should the GAA as a sporting organisation be pro-Palestinian?
Yes its wrong that the Palestinians are suffering in Gaza currently, yes there's a humanitarian crisis there, but the people who rushed the podium maybe shouldve stopped and thought about what has happened in the last 2000 plus years in that region, before taking sides.
"From the river to the sea" wasn't a phrase coined by the Israelis. In their eyes they are fighting for their right to exist. It doesn't justify the suffering in Gaza currently, but equally it does explain it. The 2 state solution proposed by the UN in the 1940s wasn't rejected by the Israelis, it was rejected by the Arabs. And the spark for the current suffering was the brutal attack by Hamas on October 7th, an attack that was always going to lead to a reaction, which was its purpose in the first place.
Im not pro Israeli or pro Palestinian, what happens there is none of my business, and it isnt a problem that I can solve either, even if I decided I wanted to.
Most importantly I'm certainly not a member of the GAA because I share every other members political, religious, social or ideological beliefs. What I do share with all the other members is a love of the games, and Id personally prefer that we as an Assocation should focus on what we are about. The preservation and regulation of those games. Which is the position our own Ethics Committee reached."
You sound more pro Israeli than some of their prime ministers who admitted that they would never have accepted the terms of the 2 state solution offered to the Palestinians. I mean they've only attacked about 7 or 8 countries in the region and still some people think the Israeli's are justified in their actions. Even more amazing that its coming from people in Ireland who should know full well what imperialism looks like.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2606 - 02/03/2026 12:29:06    2659469

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Replying To SaffronDon:  "You sound more pro Israeli than some of their prime ministers who admitted that they would never have accepted the terms of the 2 state solution offered to the Palestinians. I mean they've only attacked about 7 or 8 countries in the region and still some people think the Israeli's are justified in their actions. Even more amazing that its coming from people in Ireland who should know full well what imperialism looks like."
Israeli minority coalition is making these calls with some of IDF. They don't represent all Israelis, many of whom are in the, manadory, IDF or have friends and family in it. Most of them don't want conflict. In the same way that most American's don't support most of Trump's actions. Need to take definite action on the decision makers, not the majority of the population.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8460 - 02/03/2026 12:56:31    2659475

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Israeli minority coalition is making these calls with some of IDF. They don't represent all Israelis, many of whom are in the, manadory, IDF or have friends and family in it. Most of them don't want conflict. In the same way that most American's don't support most of Trump's actions. Need to take definite action on the decision makers, not the majority of the population."
I agree with you. When I said 'Israelis' I was referring to their regime. The rest of us are all sitting ducks unfortunately.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2606 - 02/03/2026 13:00:47    2659478

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Can someone tell me what it is that Allianz have done? must be lots of companies in various industries with links in Israel?

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3726 - 02/03/2026 13:12:54    2659484

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Replying To peiledoir20:  "Did you watch Peter Canavan's comments last night?"
Don't have to listen to a leftys comment cause I know what they will say.. and before you say I'm not right either I am in the middle. I just think those protestors are hopping on the bandwagon tbh. Going oh look at me I am doing my bit to end the war where in hindsight Trump & Israel could not care less if you storm into croker acting the eejit.....

S1234 (Mayo) - Posts: 905 - 02/03/2026 13:50:43    2659502

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Replying To SaffronDon:  "You sound more pro Israeli than some of their prime ministers who admitted that they would never have accepted the terms of the 2 state solution offered to the Palestinians. I mean they've only attacked about 7 or 8 countries in the region and still some people think the Israeli's are justified in their actions. Even more amazing that its coming from people in Ireland who should know full well what imperialism looks like."
The Wexford Benjy.

peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1471 - 02/03/2026 14:09:36    2659509

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Replying To peiledoir20:  "Well maybe you shouldn't make presumptions on things you're "not sure" of."
I didnt make any presumption. Read the post again.
All I said was Im not in the GAA on account of any beliefs or opinions held by the other members, we are all different, and have different beliefs and opinions. And thats all OK with me.
But equally its offensive when others try to inflict their beliefs on me.
I don't have to agree with you or anyone else on any subject at all.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18600 - 02/03/2026 14:22:33    2659512

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Replying To galwayford:  "Yeah complaining about the 65000 dead in Gaza is "virtue signalling"."
There's 100s of thousands have died in wars in and around that small area of the world over the last 2000 years. That doesn't justify the 65000 latest deaths in any way, but it is a fact nonetheless.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18600 - 02/03/2026 14:24:29    2659513

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Replying To SaffronDon:  "You sound more pro Israeli than some of their prime ministers who admitted that they would never have accepted the terms of the 2 state solution offered to the Palestinians. I mean they've only attacked about 7 or 8 countries in the region and still some people think the Israeli's are justified in their actions. Even more amazing that its coming from people in Ireland who should know full well what imperialism looks like."
Those arab countries attacked the Israelis in the 1940s, not the other way around. Or at least thats how the story is told in any history book Ive read on the subject over the last 40 years.
And who thinks the current Israeli government is justified in their recent actions in Gaza? I can't say I know anybody that thinks thats the case.
And as regards empires it was a Jewish and Christian population that was living there long before Islam was even invented. So which Empire are you talking about there? The Romans? Saladins Empire? That area has been conquered by Empires since before Jesus was born.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18600 - 02/03/2026 14:34:04    2659515

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