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Replying To Collio: "Eire Óg had a bad year, but the hatred from everyone else really shines through in this forum, any other team loses a game and not much is said but by god when Eire Óg lose a game it is jumped on. They were the better team today but of course no one one would like to admit that" No hatred for Eire Og at all & like previous poster had many great battles against them back in the day. However they really do rub people up the wrong way. You are in a relegation battle because you deserve to be there. Didn't win any match in the group & lost to our Hurling Champions. Some of the rubbish the EO management were spouting yesterday was unbelievable stuff. Yes they got the job done against Tinryland but if my small club had a quarter of EO's playing numbers we would never be near a relegation battle. They have the pick of the town & then cry about championship structures because they were in relegation trouble. I'd say have a look at yourselves before blaming the county board
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Replying To CARPS: "Yes, they were the better team and they deserved to win.
I don't hate Eire Og. Had many great battles with them when we played at that level.
But there is an arrogance among some people at the club (that's undeniable) and it understandably turns people against them. Mount Leinster Rangers dominate hurling but don't rub people up the wrong way like to the same extent those at Teach Asca so often manage to do." I think you're over egging it here.I heard the interview and while he could have been more diplomatic he was making the point that the current system is crazy.When you consider that bagenalstown have had to play 6 weeks in a row it just emphasises the ludicrousness of it. They won't play another competitive game until March and they didn't play one all summer. Ditto wrt Grange and they're out again next week. It's disastrous for the game and why certain people can't or refuse to see this is mind boggling.
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Replying To CARPS: "Yes, they were the better team and they deserved to win.
I don't hate Eire Og. Had many great battles with them when we played at that level.
But there is an arrogance among some people at the club (that's undeniable) and it understandably turns people against them. Mount Leinster Rangers dominate hurling but don't rub people up the wrong way like to the same extent those at Teach Asca so often manage to do." Spot on....agreeing with you a lot lately. Not sure what that means haha
DolmenDave (Carlow) - Posts: 31 - 13/10/2025 14:55:53
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Replying To Overthebar53: "I think you're over egging it here.I heard the interview and while he could have been more diplomatic he was making the point that the current system is crazy.When you consider that bagenalstown have had to play 6 weeks in a row it just emphasises the ludicrousness of it. They won't play another competitive game until March and they didn't play one all summer. Ditto wrt Grange and they're out again next week. It's disastrous for the game and why certain people can't or refuse to see this is mind boggling." Listened to their interview on The Leftwing Back socials if that's the one people are talking about here. They just complained about the structure of the championships the same way people did here last week, with how it negatively impacts football in the long wait between league and championship. League finished in May and then it's a 6/7 week run off of championship. It's ridiculous in the same vein that rangers don't play a competitive match for 2/3 months prior to Leinster campaign.
EO are where they deserve to be given they won 1 or 2 matches in 2 years but I don't think either code is happy with the current format.
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Next year you will need 7 weeks for senior hurling championship (5 weeks of group games, semi finals and final) and 6 weeks for senior football championship (3 weeks of group games, quarter finals, semi finals and final.
There's 17 weeks between the first weekend in July and last weekend in October. It should be possible to run them concurrently and build in a few breaks. It's probably safe to start them a week earlier in June too.
Now the problem is on the hurling side, Naomh Brid, Burren Rangers, Carlow Town will struggle to have their players available for preparing for championship games without co-operation of the football clubs which they pull from. On the other hand, football clubs having 3 months off in the middle of the summer is not ideal either so there's probably no perfect solution. Which one has the lesser of two evils.
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Replying To CarlowJuniorB: "Listened to their interview on The Leftwing Back socials if that's the one people are talking about here. They just complained about the structure of the championships the same way people did here last week, with how it negatively impacts football in the long wait between league and championship. League finished in May and then it's a 6/7 week run off of championship. It's ridiculous in the same vein that rangers don't play a competitive match for 2/3 months prior to Leinster campaign.
EO are where they deserve to be given they won 1 or 2 matches in 2 years but I don't think either code is happy with the current format." I agree, they deserved to be in the relegation. But as seen interview taken out of context and being turned against them. The championship structure is ridiculous, both things can be true. Again everyone says how bad an eire Óg team it is yet they drew with both county finalists. Are they the best team in carlow, no. Are they as bad as they're made out to be here, also no.
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Replying To CarlowJuniorB: "Listened to their interview on The Leftwing Back socials if that's the one people are talking about here. They just complained about the structure of the championships the same way people did here last week, with how it negatively impacts football in the long wait between league and championship. League finished in May and then it's a 6/7 week run off of championship. It's ridiculous in the same vein that rangers don't play a competitive match for 2/3 months prior to Leinster campaign.
EO are where they deserve to be given they won 1 or 2 matches in 2 years but I don't think either code is happy with the current format." No the interview on the left wing back podcast was very measured. This was done outside the dressing rooms when they had time to to calm down. The interview by kclr was done on the pitch immediately after the game & they showed their true colours. Grand if you are after winning a County Final but not if your the biggest club in Carlow with the pick of the whole town & you just about survive a relegation battle....
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Replying To carlo: "No the interview on the left wing back podcast was very measured. This was done outside the dressing rooms when they had time to to calm down. The interview by kclr was done on the pitch immediately after the game & they showed their true colours. Grand if you are after winning a County Final but not if your the biggest club in Carlow with the pick of the whole town & you just about survive a relegation battle...." Exactly. Absolute arrogance. Assume Eire Og as a club when reviewing their year will look at the kind of message their senior management is portraying as representation of their once proud club. Win Loose shake hands learn the lessons and move on would be EOs old standards. couldn't win one game in 3 attempts in championship proper…
The system isn't perfect but Carlow Co Board as obliged to give everyone that is genuinely interested and committed to GAA a chance to play football at their highest level.
Dual players from MLR, Ballinkillen, Bagenalstown, Old Loughlin have the same love for the big ball or they wouldn't bother with it! Just not enough weeks in the year to give both equal time. These are the heart and sole of what GAA is, not just one code.. and have to be given priory when considering structures.. not the single coded club, where most play a bit of GA during the GA season and then foreign sports for the other 6 months, different kind of dual indeed!
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Well done to Paul Doyle, Chris Nolan and Mouse Kavanagh on making the Joe McDonagh team of the year.
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Replying To Carlowtothecore1: "Exactly. Absolute arrogance. Assume Eire Og as a club when reviewing their year will look at the kind of message their senior management is portraying as representation of their once proud club. Win Loose shake hands learn the lessons and move on would be EOs old standards. couldn't win one game in 3 attempts in championship proper…
The system isn't perfect but Carlow Co Board as obliged to give everyone that is genuinely interested and committed to GAA a chance to play football at their highest level.
Dual players from MLR, Ballinkillen, Bagenalstown, Old Loughlin have the same love for the big ball or they wouldn't bother with it! Just not enough weeks in the year to give both equal time. These are the heart and sole of what GAA is, not just one code.. and have to be given priory when considering structures.. not the single coded club, where most play a bit of GA during the GA season and then foreign sports for the other 6 months, different kind of dual indeed!" You're not wrong in a lot but the current structure does need to be revised, I don't think either code are happy with massive breaks between the league and champ for football and then champ and Leinster's for hurling. 2 or 3 years back MLR had a football semi but played a hurling practice match the week of as prep for ballyhale.
CarlowJuniorB (Clare) - Posts: 31 - 15/10/2025 20:34:00
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Replying To CarlowJuniorB: "You're not wrong in a lot but the current structure does need to be revised, I don't think either code are happy with massive breaks between the league and champ for football and then champ and Leinster's for hurling. 2 or 3 years back MLR had a football semi but played a hurling practice match the week of as prep for ballyhale." If the structure and layout of championships are to be changed then the county board need to put safeguards in place for the revived and emerging hurling clubs. Interference with players who want to hurl needs to be punished heavily
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Replying To benchtoaster: "If the structure and layout of championships are to be changed then the county board need to put safeguards in place for the revived and emerging hurling clubs. Interference with players who want to hurl needs to be punished heavily" what type of safeguards can you put in place?
Like the EO management talking about structure were correct. They have one take but there are others on top of this, for a lot of football clubs in the county they lose players for 3/4 months in the middle of the year to go hurling(Fenagh could be more competitive if this was not the case), should there not be safeguarding there? Kilbride an aging club looking at their players walk past their own sessions on their own field too i might add while thier players hurl for someone else. What good is that to them?
The hurler on the ditch has to start realising that Carlow is a mainly football county as much as ppl may not like it. If it goes back to a similar rotation before the split and hurling struggles, it is because players are not as interested in hurling as everyone may think. In the same way as if players don't play as much football, but again I do not think that would happen as Carlow is mainly football.
People will come back saying but our county team are in Div 1B in hurling while our footballers are Div 4, fair point but about 7 counties in the country take hurling seriously while there are 32 teams in football. Within the county if you gave a budget to the county footballers based off the takings brought in from football and the hurlers based off the same hurling wouldn't go too far I would think.
Hurling has had priority the last few years here and it's time now to let it back to the way it was. Stop shoe horning football fixtures into terrible weather. Semi finals in junior A a week before final, not exactly fair for the two teams in the final, cannot be getting much build up before it.
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Does anyone know if it is possible to watch the football final this Sunday online? If yes then how please? Thanks
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Replying To more4me: "what type of safeguards can you put in place?
Like the EO management talking about structure were correct. They have one take but there are others on top of this, for a lot of football clubs in the county they lose players for 3/4 months in the middle of the year to go hurling(Fenagh could be more competitive if this was not the case), should there not be safeguarding there? Kilbride an aging club looking at their players walk past their own sessions on their own field too i might add while thier players hurl for someone else. What good is that to them?
The hurler on the ditch has to start realising that Carlow is a mainly football county as much as ppl may not like it. If it goes back to a similar rotation before the split and hurling struggles, it is because players are not as interested in hurling as everyone may think. In the same way as if players don't play as much football, but again I do not think that would happen as Carlow is mainly football.
People will come back saying but our county team are in Div 1B in hurling while our footballers are Div 4, fair point but about 7 counties in the country take hurling seriously while there are 32 teams in football. Within the county if you gave a budget to the county footballers based off the takings brought in from football and the hurlers based off the same hurling wouldn't go too far I would think.
Hurling has had priority the last few years here and it's time now to let it back to the way it was. Stop shoe horning football fixtures into terrible weather. Semi finals in junior A a week before final, not exactly fair for the two teams in the final, cannot be getting much build up before it." Great post 'more4me
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Replying To more4me: "what type of safeguards can you put in place?
Like the EO management talking about structure were correct. They have one take but there are others on top of this, for a lot of football clubs in the county they lose players for 3/4 months in the middle of the year to go hurling(Fenagh could be more competitive if this was not the case), should there not be safeguarding there? Kilbride an aging club looking at their players walk past their own sessions on their own field too i might add while thier players hurl for someone else. What good is that to them?
The hurler on the ditch has to start realising that Carlow is a mainly football county as much as ppl may not like it. If it goes back to a similar rotation before the split and hurling struggles, it is because players are not as interested in hurling as everyone may think. In the same way as if players don't play as much football, but again I do not think that would happen as Carlow is mainly football.
People will come back saying but our county team are in Div 1B in hurling while our footballers are Div 4, fair point but about 7 counties in the country take hurling seriously while there are 32 teams in football. Within the county if you gave a budget to the county footballers based off the takings brought in from football and the hurlers based off the same hurling wouldn't go too far I would think.
Hurling has had priority the last few years here and it's time now to let it back to the way it was. Stop shoe horning football fixtures into terrible weather. Semi finals in junior A a week before final, not exactly fair for the two teams in the final, cannot be getting much build up before it." You're painting a very narrow picture of hurling there, to be honest. The idea that "only seven counties take hurling seriously" just isn't true anymore. It's mis-informed, emotional codswallop.
Look at Kildare, Antrim, Offaly, Westmeath, Laois, Down and even Meath who are all investing heavily, fielding competitive underage squads, and improving their senior setups. Add those to the traditional powers (Kilkenny, Tipperary, Cork, Limerick, Clare, Offaly, Dublin, Galway, Waterford, Wexford), and you're closer to 18 counties with meaningful commitment. Including ourselves.That's over half the country playing hurling at a serious level... hardly a niche sport.
Yes, Carlow might be "mainly football," but that's only because of numbers, not passion or potential. Plus, football is much easier to play and organise. The reality is that hurling has carried Carlow's name further in recent years (Division 1B hurling, Joe McDonagh Cup wins, and real development at club level). The county's national profile now owes more to the hurlers than to the footballers. Which has implications for sponsorship and Central funding.
And about those "safeguards." For a lot of lads, the dual structure keeps them playing, not the other way around. The minute you start forcing players to pick, you lose talent... and once it's gone, it's gone. Why should a player in Myshall or Ballinkillen/Fenagh or Mt Leinster Rangers be punished because Éire Óg and Rathvilly are too lazy to be proper full service GAA clubs?
As for fixtures. Fair point about the weather, but the split season isn't a hurling conspiracy. Football clubs asked to go second. If Carlow wants both codes to thrive, it needs coordination and not competition driven by pearl clutchers. The solution isn't to shove hurling back into the margins, it's to plan smarter so both get proper preparation and fair exposure.
Hurling's success brings pride and visibility to Carlow that football hasn't matched in six or seven decades (bar a brief interlude in the late 2010s). You don't have to pick one over the other. But if we're talking about which code is punching above its weight, it's not the one languishing in Division 4. Pick up your hurl and cop on.
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Replying To CARPS: "You're painting a very narrow picture of hurling there, to be honest. The idea that "only seven counties take hurling seriously" just isn't true anymore. It's mis-informed, emotional codswallop.
Look at Kildare, Antrim, Offaly, Westmeath, Laois, Down and even Meath who are all investing heavily, fielding competitive underage squads, and improving their senior setups. Add those to the traditional powers (Kilkenny, Tipperary, Cork, Limerick, Clare, Offaly, Dublin, Galway, Waterford, Wexford), and you're closer to 18 counties with meaningful commitment. Including ourselves.That's over half the country playing hurling at a serious level... hardly a niche sport.
Yes, Carlow might be "mainly football," but that's only because of numbers, not passion or potential. Plus, football is much easier to play and organise. The reality is that hurling has carried Carlow's name further in recent years (Division 1B hurling, Joe McDonagh Cup wins, and real development at club level). The county's national profile now owes more to the hurlers than to the footballers. Which has implications for sponsorship and Central funding.
And about those "safeguards." For a lot of lads, the dual structure keeps them playing, not the other way around. The minute you start forcing players to pick, you lose talent... and once it's gone, it's gone. Why should a player in Myshall or Ballinkillen/Fenagh or Mt Leinster Rangers be punished because Éire Óg and Rathvilly are too lazy to be proper full service GAA clubs?
As for fixtures. Fair point about the weather, but the split season isn't a hurling conspiracy. Football clubs asked to go second. If Carlow wants both codes to thrive, it needs coordination and not competition driven by pearl clutchers. The solution isn't to shove hurling back into the margins, it's to plan smarter so both get proper preparation and fair exposure.
Hurling's success brings pride and visibility to Carlow that football hasn't matched in six or seven decades (bar a brief interlude in the late 2010s). You don't have to pick one over the other. But if we're talking about which code is punching above its weight, it's not the one languishing in Division 4. Pick up your hurl and cop on." Sorry, I said Offaly twice. I meant Kerry the first time.
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Replying To CARPS: "You're painting a very narrow picture of hurling there, to be honest. The idea that "only seven counties take hurling seriously" just isn't true anymore. It's mis-informed, emotional codswallop.
Look at Kildare, Antrim, Offaly, Westmeath, Laois, Down and even Meath who are all investing heavily, fielding competitive underage squads, and improving their senior setups. Add those to the traditional powers (Kilkenny, Tipperary, Cork, Limerick, Clare, Offaly, Dublin, Galway, Waterford, Wexford), and you're closer to 18 counties with meaningful commitment. Including ourselves.That's over half the country playing hurling at a serious level... hardly a niche sport.
Yes, Carlow might be "mainly football," but that's only because of numbers, not passion or potential. Plus, football is much easier to play and organise. The reality is that hurling has carried Carlow's name further in recent years (Division 1B hurling, Joe McDonagh Cup wins, and real development at club level). The county's national profile now owes more to the hurlers than to the footballers. Which has implications for sponsorship and Central funding.
And about those "safeguards." For a lot of lads, the dual structure keeps them playing, not the other way around. The minute you start forcing players to pick, you lose talent... and once it's gone, it's gone. Why should a player in Myshall or Ballinkillen/Fenagh or Mt Leinster Rangers be punished because Éire Óg and Rathvilly are too lazy to be proper full service GAA clubs?
As for fixtures. Fair point about the weather, but the split season isn't a hurling conspiracy. Football clubs asked to go second. If Carlow wants both codes to thrive, it needs coordination and not competition driven by pearl clutchers. The solution isn't to shove hurling back into the margins, it's to plan smarter so both get proper preparation and fair exposure.
Hurling's success brings pride and visibility to Carlow that football hasn't matched in six or seven decades (bar a brief interlude in the late 2010s). You don't have to pick one over the other. But if we're talking about which code is punching above its weight, it's not the one languishing in Division 4. Pick up your hurl and cop on." Counties are putting a massive push onto improving hurling but the gap is still huge and don't think it will ever be bridged. Dublin are the only side to challenge the established counties and it took a population of a million odd plus a truck load of money. They went from beating no one to winning a Leinster and national league, ten times the accomplishment of what the footballers achieved.
Do agree that hurling needs to be pushed massively within the county and country since it's struggling compared to football but it's an odd stick to beat EO and Rathvilly with as you said. Rathvilly applied for the starter pack this year and got it meanwhile Carlow Town are the de facto town club with Setanta also having an adult side for the first time. Carlow Town are improving but both inter and junior sides have lads from EO, Asca and Pal. A town that is hugely underrepresented hurling numbers wise isn't going to benefit from a third team joining the fold. Maybe that day comes when the town has its house in order but now the question should be what can the county board do to increase numbers and participation. Use the success of Burren Rangers as an example.
But a solution to championships is needed. The hurling is succeeding at the expense of the football currently. The current set up is setting up both for failure, you're not getting extra bodies in either code with it and who ever wants to play both codes will play both codes no matter the format.
The hurlers far outweigh what the footballers have achieved but no one complains about the state of hurling and actively wants to get rid of the games progression in the country more than hurling people. Look at the bigger counties complaining about Joe Mc teams competing in the prelim quarter finals at the expense of teams losing 3 games in the provincials.
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