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I think there may have been some logistical and practical issues around having elections in Palestine in the interim
Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12409 - 19/06/2025 16:22:10 2619292 Link 0 |
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Well it's their way of justifying to the rest of the world and the rest of the world stands idly by giving lip service, all because they are afraid of their lives to upset a certain group of people and don't want to be accused of being antisemitic
Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2402 - 19/06/2025 17:58:14 2619322 Link 0 |
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The US alphabet agencies are saying Iran is not building a bomb or at best years away from it. Trump going on a solo run (with Israel) with this…meanwhile he's putting up a big beautiful pole for an American flag in the White House lawn and holding a press conference to unveil it….this is South Park stuff…mental! yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11656 - 19/06/2025 18:23:56 2619328 Link 1 |
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There were 3 strands to that agreement, not all followed up on properly. It's so long ago. Nobody is taking about a united Ireland now though, it's dead in the water. For example, if so called nationalist parties were serious about a United Ireland they would organise massive peaceful protests now, or do something political. I think they are not interested in reunification any more. I could be wrong. It's about Israel bashing in Ireland. maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1236 - 19/06/2025 21:50:18 2619351 Link 0 |
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For sure. Hammas ran Fatah out of Gaza over the following year after they got elected. So it is very hard to have an election when there's no opposition.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16359 - 20/06/2025 05:59:37 2619375 Link 0 |
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Bush named Iran,Iraq and North Korea as an Axis of Evil. It is clear now that the Axis of Evil is Israel and the United States. Many countries in Europe including Ireland have disgraced themselves by failing to adequately take a stand against these war criminals. They have provided cover for a genocide as has the Western media. The West can never be taken seriously again about believing in international law when failing to act against the mass slaughter right across the Middle East that has been conducted by Israel and the United States. REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1705 - 20/06/2025 08:31:14 2619383 Link 2 |
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Good point about united Ireland. SF and SDLP happy to have snouts in trough as local administrators for Whitehall. Gaza and all the rest are "look over there" distractions but that does not get away from fact that Israel is behaving inexcusably in Gaza and now Iran. Almost entire spectrum here agrees on that. From Harris to Paul Murphy . No time at all for either Iran or Hamas (whose origins by the way as a stick to beat the PLO/Fatah are worth looking at.) The reason there was no nuclear war from 40s on despite likes of Stalin and then Chinese and then that lunatic murderous regime in North Korea having it is that US acted responsibly and created a balance of power in which everyone knew there could be no winner. Israel seems intent on throwing that out the window. Along with every other restraint on even the rules of war. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3633 - 20/06/2025 10:05:25 2619401 Link 2 |
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Not a word about the biggest middle eastern conflict of the last decade, the civil war in Yemen
boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 383 - 20/06/2025 11:14:48 2619425 Link 0 |
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In my posts I think there is one word that triggers the Admins and that is the opposite to the Truth! Anyway. The facts of the 2006 election is that Hamas won a comfortable majority across the the West Bank and Gaza, this was a complete surprise to everyone who seemed to think that fanatical Islam could not be democratic or popular. There a lot of reasons why they had become the choice to vote for but everyone believed they were free and fair elections The result sent shock waves through this belief and Fatah with the backing of their masters rather than respect the vote of the people procced to oust them out of the west bank. Nominally the PA still runs both and elections can only be called across both and in 2021 Abbas was supposed to do that but cancelled them. The reality is there is little to believe that if in 2021 the elections were held in a free and fair manner the result would not have been the same. The irony is that Israel helped create Hamas as a political force as the idea of a secular leftist party did not give well with the image they wanted to portray of the Palestinians and their leadership, well they certainly got what they wanted. Should Israel be considered a democratic state - they hold elections but at the same time they imprison or continue to steal lad from half the people that they control and despite the fact that they control these people they are not given a vote - is that ones idea of democracy? it sounds more like what happens in the other countries that surround them. zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 2013 - 20/06/2025 11:41:26 2619436 Link 2 |
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Can't disagree with a lot of that bar maybe what else Ireland could have done to "take a stand" all bearing in mind we live under the blanket of the RAF patrolling our skies and other navy's to protect the vital undersea cables that make landfall on this island. We are the the ultimate "sit on the fence" and pontificate to everyone else brigade. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11656 - 20/06/2025 15:59:24 2619507 Link 0 |
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True, And the main protagonist in keeping that going is Israel and the American's great pals in Saudi. A feudal Islamic state that makes not the slightest attempt to pretend that it has any respect for anything. They have lots of oil and cash so you can see why the above are their buddies. Yemen is one of world's tragedies/ Been arena for Brits (used to be Aden where they perfected their torture for Paddy in 1970s) Soviet. American, Israeli, Saudi and domestic monsters destroying its people for 60 years and more. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3633 - 21/06/2025 00:27:36 2619556 Link 0 |
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The only country that occupies part of Ireland is England. RAF and RN must have been on a day off when that happened?
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3633 - 21/06/2025 07:13:42 2619568 Link 0 |
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I see Putin has reiterated that he sees Ukraine as an integral part of Russia. That isn't going to end anytime soon. Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1684 - 21/06/2025 08:59:35 2619572 Link 0 |