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Replying To Shelbourne1:  "You must be joking. 4 minor teams in Ulster finals. Won 2 of them. Then when we lost a final on penalties we reach All Ireland final the same year. We shouldn't be in the B competition ........a disaster of a season & last year not much better !"
The begrudgers are out. Roll on the semi final with our future senior manager & Dermot Malone as trainer in 2027. Watch this space

farneygael3 (Monaghan) - Posts: 206 - 03/05/2025 17:23:16    2606466

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Replying To Shelbourne1:  "You must be joking. 4 minor teams in Ulster finals. Won 2 of them. Then when we lost a final on penalties we reach All Ireland final the same year. We shouldn't be in the B competition ........a disaster of a season & last year not much better !"
Exactly.
The amount of serial losers in here happy to be competing in a Tier 2 comp when there is enough quality in the team push for tier 1 all Irelands says it all.
Tier 2 is for the Fermanaghs/Antrims etc. it's a waste of time for players of that level.
Glad to see the management has found their level though.

MonaghanMan44life (Monaghan) - Posts: 44 - 03/05/2025 18:44:20    2606481

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Replying To MonaghanMan44life:  "Exactly.
The amount of serial losers in here happy to be competing in a Tier 2 comp when there is enough quality in the team push for tier 1 all Irelands says it all.
Tier 2 is for the Fermanaghs/Antrims etc. it's a waste of time for players of that level.
Glad to see the management has found their level though."
But Players are being developed now after years of ignoring it. Minors also had an impressive win today. MONAGHAN ABU

farneygael3 (Monaghan) - Posts: 206 - 03/05/2025 20:38:14    2606505

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Replying To MonaghanMan44life:  "Exactly.
The amount of serial losers in here happy to be competing in a Tier 2 comp when there is enough quality in the team push for tier 1 all Irelands says it all.
Tier 2 is for the Fermanaghs/Antrims etc. it's a waste of time for players of that level.
Glad to see the management has found their level though."
But Players are being developed now after years of ignoring it. Minors also had an impressive win today. MONAGHAN ABU

farneygael3 (Monaghan) - Posts: 206 - 03/05/2025 20:50:36    2606511

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Replying To Eddie the Exile:  "2008 dumped by Fermanagh
2011 Humbled by Offaly
2012 caught by Down and Laois
2016 shocked by Longford
2017 shocked again by Down
2018 shocked by Fermanagh
2019 beaten by Cavan
2020 blew it against Cavan
2024 well bet by Cavan

Of all teams I don't think Monaghan have any reason to be talking about a straightforward draw. History says we have no capacity to deliver when expected to."
Think this team is a lot more humble than those sides who on their day were right up there. Only problem was they couldn't get themselves up for the supposed easier games. Can you imagine Tyrone or Donegal of that time losing to down and fermanagh in consecutive semi finals. The group we have now are more focused. The stint in div 2 did them no harm. The leinster final and how it turns out will have a major bearing on this group. Think if louth win it given the history it will be huge and they will find it difficult to come back down to earth for a local Derby with monaghan. Meath if they back beating the dubs up with leinster title would be a much tougher proposition. Heading along Sunday regardless to croke Park as massive game and should be great occasion.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1882 - 06/05/2025 10:09:19    2607016

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All of the games listed by Exile were really that much of a shock? If you look at league position as a mark of how good a team is then 2011, 2016, 2017 & 2020 were shocks. The others not so much. See in bold below...

2008: Fermanagh 1st in Div 3 - Mon 3rd in Div 2
2011: Offaly 4th in Div3 - Mon relegated Div 1
2012: Down and Laois. Down 3rd in Div 1 and Laois relegated from Div 1 - Mon relegated from Div 2 to Div 3
2016: Longford 4th in Div 3 - Mon 6th in Div 1
2017: Down 6th in Div 2 - Mon 4th in Div 1
2018: Fermanagh 2nd in Div 2 - Mon 3rd in Div 1
2019: Cavan 8th in Div 1 - Mon 6th in Div 1
2020: Cavan 7th in Div 2 - Mon 6th in Div 1
2024: Cavan 3rd in Div 2 - Mon 8th in Div 1

2008 Fermanagh on the rise with Malachy
2012 lost to two Div 1 teams. Down in AI final in 2011.
2018 Fermanagh going well under RG (now of Corduff)
2019 Cavan on the rise with Mickey Graham and Martin Corey. Made 2019 USFC final.
2020 Cavan win USFC after making final in 2019.
2024 Monaghan on slide and Cavan going well under Galligan. Roles reversed a little in 2025.

MrPBoylan (Monaghan) - Posts: 235 - 07/05/2025 10:34:23    2607290

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Monaghan need to approach the Group stages the same as they approached the league and play with attacking flair. They were more cagey/nervous against Donegal but they have to play with confidency from her on.
I think teams will take points of each other in our group so it may come down to head to head or score difference to see what teams progress to quarter finals/prelim quater finals.
Down were very unlucky to be relegated to Div 3 and Clare only missed out on promotion to Div 2 on score difference.
You could say Monaghan were full value for topping Div 2 but there is not that much between any of the teams in our group.
I'm tipping Louth to win Leinster so my predictions are:
Monaghan v Louth - Monaghan by 4 (Louth will still have a hangover in claming an historic Leinster title win).
Monaghan v Clare - Monaghan by 5 (Clare are always hard to beat but having them in Clones should be an advantage).
Monaghan v Down - draw. (Down are on the up and set up a lot like Donegal, so we will find it difficult to break them down).
I think 5 points and a better score difference should be enough for Monaghan to progress to a quarter final.
I expect Down to finish 2nd and Louth 3rd.

SouthMonMan (Monaghan) - Posts: 156 - 07/05/2025 12:11:23    2607323

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Question still remains we haven't coped well with blanket defences in the past and a lot of the above defeats in the past has been the root cause and the 2 losses this year is due to this as well so have we developed or have we a plan to counteract this if we haven't learned from 7 players around the arc v donegal and down we're goosed this needs to be addressed as a major concern going forward it was shambolic to see the likes of o hanlon running straight into 5 donegal lads ,turnovers are massive in tight matches and can swing a match so we need to develop and learn fast thoughts please ?

Farneyblueandwhite (Monaghan) - Posts: 60 - 07/05/2025 13:46:57    2607358

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Under 20 all Ireland semi this Sunday v Limerick. Best of luck to team and management.

farneygael3 (Monaghan) - Posts: 206 - 07/05/2025 15:18:33    2607392

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Replying To Farneyblueandwhite:  "Question still remains we haven't coped well with blanket defences in the past and a lot of the above defeats in the past has been the root cause and the 2 losses this year is due to this as well so have we developed or have we a plan to counteract this if we haven't learned from 7 players around the arc v donegal and down we're goosed this needs to be addressed as a major concern going forward it was shambolic to see the likes of o hanlon running straight into 5 donegal lads ,turnovers are massive in tight matches and can swing a match so we need to develop and learn fast thoughts please ?"
Thoughts are, Gabie should step down and you should take over.

ORIELMAN85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 496 - 07/05/2025 15:23:28    2607395

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Replying To Farneyblueandwhite:  "Question still remains we haven't coped well with blanket defences in the past and a lot of the above defeats in the past has been the root cause and the 2 losses this year is due to this as well so have we developed or have we a plan to counteract this if we haven't learned from 7 players around the arc v donegal and down we're goosed this needs to be addressed as a major concern going forward it was shambolic to see the likes of o hanlon running straight into 5 donegal lads ,turnovers are massive in tight matches and can swing a match so we need to develop and learn fast thoughts please ?"
its a reasonable point on a forum for creating debate...i have faith we are in a positive place right now. the down and donegal games did negate our attacking prowess but to be fair we finished strong - for me the trick is to just finish strong quicker!

it wasnt our strongest 15 starting against down and vrs donegal there were some poor snap shots in the first half. that can be tidied up

MalsBalls (Monaghan) - Posts: 222 - 08/05/2025 08:38:38    2607513

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Replying To MrPBoylan:  "All of the games listed by Exile were really that much of a shock? If you look at league position as a mark of how good a team is then 2011, 2016, 2017 & 2020 were shocks. The others not so much. See in bold below...

2008: Fermanagh 1st in Div 3 - Mon 3rd in Div 2
2011: Offaly 4th in Div3 - Mon relegated Div 1
2012: Down and Laois. Down 3rd in Div 1 and Laois relegated from Div 1 - Mon relegated from Div 2 to Div 3
2016: Longford 4th in Div 3 - Mon 6th in Div 1
2017: Down 6th in Div 2 - Mon 4th in Div 1
2018: Fermanagh 2nd in Div 2 - Mon 3rd in Div 1
2019: Cavan 8th in Div 1 - Mon 6th in Div 1
2020: Cavan 7th in Div 2 - Mon 6th in Div 1
2024: Cavan 3rd in Div 2 - Mon 8th in Div 1

2008 Fermanagh on the rise with Malachy
2012 lost to two Div 1 teams. Down in AI final in 2011.
2018 Fermanagh going well under RG (now of Corduff)
2019 Cavan on the rise with Mickey Graham and Martin Corey. Made 2019 USFC final.
2020 Cavan win USFC after making final in 2019.
2024 Monaghan on slide and Cavan going well under Galligan. Roles reversed a little in 2025."
2016 loss to Longford, 2017 and 2018 ulster semi final losses were unforgivable really. That was a fine monaghan team who should have picked up two more ulster and made an all Ireland final in 2018. 2020 to cavan was also one of the worst defeats we have had. They had been relegated and we have a very good division 1 that year. It was a sickening defeat with another ulster there for the taking. We will account for clare but down meath louth are not certified wins by any means.

222 (UK) - Posts: 847 - 08/05/2025 08:52:24    2607516

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Replying To MalsBalls:  "its a reasonable point on a forum for creating debate...i have faith we are in a positive place right now. the down and donegal games did negate our attacking prowess but to be fair we finished strong - for me the trick is to just finish strong quicker!

it wasnt our strongest 15 starting against down and vrs donegal there were some poor snap shots in the first half. that can be tidied up"
Fair comment yes agreed I do feel we need to use the wings more often when we're under this type of system but it can be hard to breakdown a defence so condensed

Farneyblueandwhite (Monaghan) - Posts: 60 - 08/05/2025 09:57:38    2607543

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Replying To farneygael3:  "Under 20 all Ireland semi this Sunday v Limerick. Best of luck to team and management."
Are you looking forward to your trip to Moorefield? There'll be some celebrations if yiz win.

SouthOfTheGap (Donegal) - Posts: 775 - 08/05/2025 16:23:56    2607647

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Replying To SouthOfTheGap:  "Are you looking forward to your trip to Moorefield? There'll be some celebrations if yiz win."
Will you have the half and half jersey :-)

farneygael3 (Monaghan) - Posts: 206 - 08/05/2025 16:39:37    2607653

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Replying To farneygael3:  "Will you have the half and half jersey :-)"
Will you have the hurling or the football one on?

SouthOfTheGap (Donegal) - Posts: 775 - 08/05/2025 17:01:02    2607666

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Replying To SouthOfTheGap:  "Will you have the hurling or the football one on?"
Just to bring reality to your sniggering.
Donegal, population 167,000, 2 All Irelands.
Kerry, population 156,000 38 All Irelands.
By the way Under 20s is about player developement. Games,games,games.

ORIELMAN85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 496 - 08/05/2025 17:11:20    2607668

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Replying To SouthOfTheGap:  "Will you have the hurling or the football one on?"
Limerick is the coming team.

farneygael3 (Monaghan) - Posts: 206 - 08/05/2025 17:22:59    2607674

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Replying To ORIELMAN85:  "Just to bring reality to your sniggering.
Donegal, population 167,000, 2 All Irelands.
Kerry, population 156,000 38 All Irelands.
By the way Under 20s is about player developement. Games,games,games."
Sorry lad, solely aimed at FarneyGael3 who seems to have taken over the mantle of VeteranGaa on visiting the Donegal page with his insights. Plus he oddly seems to think he knows me.

SouthOfTheGap (Donegal) - Posts: 775 - 09/05/2025 13:02:23    2607809

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