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The Leinster bench had 358 international caps, the entire Northampton team had 123, of course it's a management issue along with the players, an international team playing a club side at home in front of 95% of huge crowd of home supporters and are beaten. If Ross Byrne was at 10 yesterday he'd have been taken off at half time, Irish rugby not in a good place, the rule whereby our key players could come from other countries has changed, Ryan, Healy, Furlong, Van Der Flyer, Henshaw, Aki, Gibson Park. Conan, Beirne all on last legs, replacements not coming through.
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Replying To supersub15: "I was at the game and I watched it again today and I didn't see any ankle tap possibilities with great clarity.
You are correct he won't make the cut, his opposite number Fin Smith will, for sure, it was always going to be that way, don't forget Sam is only a few months playing Rugby at the highest level and barely 22.
You choose to Blame him saying, "His place kicking alone costs a game" - - - are you for real ?.
You say, - - - One other thing is they need a 15, Keenan is not good enough but both Leinster and Ireland stick with him.
I don't understand, I have never read a post from you here on HS giving a pre match opinion on a Leinster or Ireland Rugby game or player so how can you expect anyone with a grain of honesty to believe your post match comments.
PS. Eleven months ago the same two teams met in the same semi final, Leinster had to fight all the way for a 3 point win, as a result they were all house hold names and heroes.
Sadly, yesterday they fell short by the same margin of 3 points to the same opposition, suddenly they are now all losers and Leinster is now past tense.
I sincerely that is not your definition of sport, I'm glad it's not mine." I didn't realise you have to be a constant poster on the actual games to have a view when you feel like posting and you therefore think I don't know anything about the game - well done.
If he knew he didn't have the pace to catch Pollock then at least dive and try to tap tackle - what he tried was nothing attempt. Fin Smith is 22 is he not? btw Pollock is 20!
Ireland and Leinster sticking with Keenan is a problem Barrett should have either started before him or Henshaw who has gone off form this year. Keenan's decision making in defending has been a problem and while he works well in set play attacks he running the ball back his lines of attack end up going straight into the opposition.
The Leinster team that went out was by nearly everyone's reckoning an Irish team so their failure also reflects on Irish rugby and their ability to win clutch games. This was not an opposition stacked with international players from all over the world. If the stated aim of Leinster is to win the Champions Cup this is a massive failure and must be the last straw in Cullen's reign. This was a team that should not have lost given the overall advantage they had around the field but they did, so for nobody to question why is a ridiculous idea. The heads of the other provenances have gone for not performing with a quarter of the resources that Leinster have.
zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1959 - 05/05/2025 06:14:06
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Voting rights in the Presidential election should be extended to Irish citizens in the North and the Irish diaspora around the World. Sinn Fein and the SDLP seem to have given up on Irish Unity as neither party are calling for an imminent referendum on the issue.
They have signed up to an agreement that doesn't even specify under what criteria a border poll must be called.
With 24% of people in Crossmaglen ticking the Northern Irish box in the last census winning a referendum will be almost impossible for Nationalism. Voting in a Presidential election is likely the only chance Nationalists in the North will ever get to vote in an Irish election. The Dail should legislate for this but I believe it's there will need to be a referendum so unlikely before this year's referendum.
REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1702 - 06/05/2025 18:24:48
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Replying To peiledoir20: "I'm not from Galway, but I wish I was tonight. Oh to be out celebrating 4 in a row in Castlebar, without their two best players as well. Bravo Gallimh." Belclare is in County Galway
Cumann1 (Mayo) - Posts: 48 - 06/05/2025 20:02:31
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Replying To zinny: " Replying To supersub15: "I was at the game and I watched it again today and I didn't see any ankle tap possibilities with great clarity.
You are correct he won't make the cut, his opposite number Fin Smith will, for sure, it was always going to be that way, don't forget Sam is only a few months playing Rugby at the highest level and barely 22.
You choose to Blame him saying, "His place kicking alone costs a game" - - - are you for real ?.
You say, - - - One other thing is they need a 15, Keenan is not good enough but both Leinster and Ireland stick with him.
I don't understand, I have never read a post from you here on HS giving a pre match opinion on a Leinster or Ireland Rugby game or player so how can you expect anyone with a grain of honesty to believe your post match comments.
PS. Eleven months ago the same two teams met in the same semi final, Leinster had to fight all the way for a 3 point win, as a result they were all house hold names and heroes.
Sadly, yesterday they fell short by the same margin of 3 points to the same opposition, suddenly they are now all losers and Leinster is now past tense.
I sincerely that is not your definition of sport, I'm glad it's not mine." I didn't realise you have to be a constant poster on the actual games to have a view when you feel like posting and you therefore think I don't know anything about the game - well done. If he knew he didn't have the pace to catch Pollock then at least dive and try to tap tackle - what he tried was nothing attempt. Fin Smith is 22 is he not? btw Pollock is 20! Ireland and Leinster sticking with Keenan is a problem Barrett should have either started before him or Henshaw who has gone off form this year. Keenan's decision making in defending has been a problem and while he works well in set play attacks he running the ball back his lines of attack end up going straight into the opposition. The Leinster team that went out was by nearly everyone's reckoning an Irish team so their failure also reflects on Irish rugby and their ability to win clutch games. This was not an opposition stacked with international players from all over the world. If the stated aim of Leinster is to win the Champions Cup this is a massive failure and must be the last straw in Cullen's reign. This was a team that should not have lost given the overall advantage they had around the field but they did, so for nobody to question why is a ridiculous idea. The heads of the other provenances have gone for not performing with a quarter of the resources that Leinster have."
supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3178 - 06/05/2025 21:46:39
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Just what the world needed. Another major flashpoint between two nuclear-armed states.
Are we edging towards another world conflict?
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9754 - 07/05/2025 09:34:23
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So good to see the peace and stability Trump has brought to the world. There won't be any wars on his watch.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8372 - 07/05/2025 10:08:00
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Replying To Lockjaw: "Just what the world needed. Another major flashpoint between two nuclear-armed states.
Are we edging towards another world conflict?" Never a dull moment lately, is there ?? The rise and rise of the far right in Europe, particularly in former Warsaw Pact states is another worry, possibly more so for Europe that this latest Pakistan / India flare up.
Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1610 - 07/05/2025 10:13:40
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Replying To Lockjaw: "Just what the world needed. Another major flashpoint between two nuclear-armed states.
Are we edging towards another world conflict?" Relaaaaaaaaaaaaaax, Team America will sort it out peacefully
Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12331 - 07/05/2025 10:32:08
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Replying To supersub15: "I was at the game and I watched it again today and I didn't see any ankle tap possibilities with great clarity.
You are correct he won't make the cut, his opposite number Fin Smith will, for sure, it was always going to be that way, don't forget Sam is only a few months playing Rugby at the highest level and barely 22.
You choose to Blame him saying, "His place kicking alone costs a game" - - - are you for real ?.
You say, - - - One other thing is they need a 15, Keenan is not good enough but both Leinster and Ireland stick with him.
I don't understand, I have never read a post from you here on HS giving a pre match opinion on a Leinster or Ireland Rugby game or player so how can you expect anyone with a grain of honesty to believe your post match comments.
PS. Eleven months ago the same two teams met in the same semi final, Leinster had to fight all the way for a 3 point win, as a result they were all house hold names and heroes.
Sadly, yesterday they fell short by the same margin of 3 points to the same opposition, suddenly they are now all losers and Leinster is now past tense.
I sincerely that is not your definition of sport, I'm glad it's not mine." PS that was not same Northampton side.
No Furbank sleighthome lawes ludlum ribbans.
jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1511 - 07/05/2025 11:08:17
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Replying To Lockjaw: "Just what the world needed. Another major flashpoint between two nuclear-armed states.
Are we edging towards another world conflict?" There's a storm coming, just get it over with.
Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2308 - 07/05/2025 11:40:38
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Replying To Freethinker: "Never a dull moment lately, is there ?? The rise and rise of the far right in Europe, particularly in former Warsaw Pact states is another worry, possibly more so for Europe that this latest Pakistan / India flare up." I wouldnt describe the Warsaw Pact countries as experiencing a rise of the far right. Their attitudes/culture have always been the same...very traditional values. They want the economic prosperity of the West but mainly reject its modern cultural values. If they were all still behind the Iron Curtain we wouldnt know the difference , it's just because they have veered to the West /become part of the EU that the tensions have become more apparent. The Russian word for "woman" (zhena) and "wife"(zhenschina) have the same root. When such ideas are so intertwined in language going back hundreds if not thousands of years ,it will be very difficult regardless of who runs that country to change that mindset to readily accept things like gay marriage. I dont know but I would expect the other Slavic languages such as Polish, Ukrainian, Slovak, Czech, Bulgarian etc to have similar concepts embedded in them. Indeed, it will be very interesting in the years following whatever settlement is made in the Ukrainian war , in the event that a part of that settlement involves Ukraine becoming a member of the EU, I predict after an initial honeymoon period of several years --maybe a couple of decades even -- in which Ukraine will be totally pro-EU and on message with Brussels, a cleavage will happen which will see Ukraine/Poland/Hungary/ Slovakia -- in Rumsfeld's words,"new Europe" -- on one side with a cultural resistance to what is termed modern, progressive, western Europe.
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 2015 - 07/05/2025 12:24:22
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Replying To jm25: " Replying To supersub15: "I was at the game and I watched it again today and I didn't see any ankle tap possibilities with great clarity.
You are correct he won't make the cut, his opposite number Fin Smith will, for sure, it was always going to be that way, don't forget Sam is only a few months playing Rugby at the highest level and barely 22.
You choose to Blame him saying, "His place kicking alone costs a game" - - - are you for real ?.
You say, - - - One other thing is they need a 15, Keenan is not good enough but both Leinster and Ireland stick with him.
I don't understand, I have never read a post from you here on HS giving a pre match opinion on a Leinster or Ireland Rugby game or player so how can you expect anyone with a grain of honesty to believe your post match comments.
PS. Eleven months ago the same two teams met in the same semi final, Leinster had to fight all the way for a 3 point win, as a result they were all house hold names and heroes.
Sadly, yesterday they fell short by the same margin of 3 points to the same opposition, suddenly they are now all losers and Leinster is now past tense.
I sincerely that is not your definition of sport, I'm glad it's not mine." PS that was not same Northampton side. No Furbank sleighthome lawes ludlum ribbans."
In every way, they had all the advantages but managed to let it slip again. This is nothing like Mayo or Armagh having near misses previously. Leinster were 1/25 with the bookies to win this match. Shocks happen in sport, but very rarely to that degree, and given Leinster's other recent travails in the competition it's a significant underperformance.
WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2318 - 07/05/2025 13:13:46
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The admins of this thread are hopefully archiving it for posterity. I'm not sure when the first post was, but there have been some amount of topical dicussions here between sports, politics, COVID and everything in between!
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9754 - 07/05/2025 14:02:11
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Replying To Lockjaw: "The admins of this thread are hopefully archiving it for posterity. I'm not sure when the first post was, but there have been some amount of topical dicussions here between sports, politics, COVID and everything in between!" That's forgetting what admin won't publish either.
Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2308 - 07/05/2025 16:31:23
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Replying To Lockjaw: "The admins of this thread are hopefully archiving it for posterity. I'm not sure when the first post was, but there have been some amount of topical dicussions here between sports, politics, COVID and everything in between!" Well at least 'skorts' got their own thread!! that other major world issue of the day.
I often wonder what tourists think of us if they ever bother to watch RTE news when they are here.
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Replying To Bon: "That's forgetting what admin won't publish either." I thought that only happened to me, lol.
Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1610 - 08/05/2025 09:05:22
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Replying To zinny: " Replying To supersub15: "I was at the game and I watched it again today and I didn't see any ankle tap possibilities with great clarity.
You are correct he won't make the cut, his opposite number Fin Smith will, for sure, it was always going to be that way, don't forget Sam is only a few months playing Rugby at the highest level and barely 22.
You choose to Blame him saying, "His place kicking alone costs a game" - - - are you for real ?.
You say, - - - One other thing is they need a 15, Keenan is not good enough but both Leinster and Ireland stick with him.
I don't understand, I have never read a post from you here on HS giving a pre match opinion on a Leinster or Ireland Rugby game or player so how can you expect anyone with a grain of honesty to believe your post match comments.
PS. Eleven months ago the same two teams met in the same semi final, Leinster had to fight all the way for a 3 point win, as a result they were all house hold names and heroes.
Sadly, yesterday they fell short by the same margin of 3 points to the same opposition, suddenly they are now all losers and Leinster is now past tense.
I sincerely that is not your definition of sport, I'm glad it's not mine." I didn't realise you have to be a constant poster on the actual games to have a view when you feel like posting and you therefore think I don't know anything about the game - well done. If he knew he didn't have the pace to catch Pollock then at least dive and try to tap tackle - what he tried was nothing attempt. Fin Smith is 22 is he not? btw Pollock is 20! Ireland and Leinster sticking with Keenan is a problem Barrett should have either started before him or Henshaw who has gone off form this year. Keenan's decision making in defending has been a problem and while he works well in set play attacks he running the ball back his lines of attack end up going straight into the opposition. The Leinster team that went out was by nearly everyone's reckoning an Irish team so their failure also reflects on Irish rugby and their ability to win clutch games. This was not an opposition stacked with international players from all over the world. If the stated aim of Leinster is to win the Champions Cup this is a massive failure and must be the last straw in Cullen's reign. This was a team that should not have lost given the overall advantage they had around the field but they did, so for nobody to question why is a ridiculous idea. The heads of the other provenances have gone for not performing with a quarter of the resources that Leinster have."
Nth. Hampton v Bordeaux.
Thanks in advance.
supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3178 - 08/05/2025 09:48:04
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Replying To Lockjaw: "If the admins permit, thought I'd set up a separate thread to discuss other sports what with it being a World Cup year and all. The World Cup will feel very strange this time being played in our winter, and the final being the weekend before Christmas. It's a ridiculous choice of venue but money talks loudest in the corridors of FIFA.
I love the World Cup, even if its prestige has been diminished somewhat by the all-consuming Champions League. Some of my best childhood memories are of fervently watching the 90 and 94 World Cups. Discovering new and exotic players pre-Internet was a treat, and then playing outside til all hours copying them. Lads like Valderramma, Hagi, Milla, Baggio, Klinsmann, Stoichkov, Romario, Bebeto, Careca, Schillaci, Brolin etc
This World Cup is hard to call. There are a handful of teams who will fancy their chances of going all the way with a bit of luck. At this stage I'd have Brazil as favourites but a lot can change between now and November." This is your opening post Lockjaw. Surprised it's only in 2022
Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12331 - 08/05/2025 11:25:34
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Replying To Tirchonaill1: "Well at least 'skorts' got their own thread!! that other major world issue of the day.
I often wonder what tourists think of us if they ever bother to watch RTE news when they are here." A tourist that watches rte news willingly needs to be examined for brain trauma. The rest of us are forced to pay for that junk
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