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Replying To Alwaysencourage:  "TJ Brennan is well up to that standard.He was picked on a UL team of stars and always started.He has had an incredibly hard year and fair play to him for battling back He is 22 hardly washed up just yet"
Well said. Brennan Grealish and Morrisey would get in to most intercounty teams except Limerick maybe. 3 top drawer corner backs.

clare_sparrow (Galway) - Posts: 425 - 30/05/2023 10:13:44    2482787

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I couldnt care less if Roscommon fans didnt support the Galway Hurlers , sure they dont even support theyre own county hurling team!

Think Sunday is a make or break moment for this team , its the kick up the tóin we need if we can use it, as the season for Galway starts now

I think Éanna Murphy who has been excellent last two years will learn not to be as sloppy , and I think his sloppyness was a sign of the whole team in the first half bar Joseph Cooney


When you have Whelan who usually is our terrier in the forwards not really working hard enough you know something is off.


Second half was much better and if you take in the 9 point swing of the penalty , and the two soft goals It would have been a different result

Thought Sean Linnane brought agression that we needed and Id expect him to start against KK. Grealish who was poor against KK will have to start id imagine . A lot will depend on how Cathal Mannion is fit , but i cant see him starting in the Leinster Final

puckemhard (Galway) - Posts: 227 - 30/05/2023 10:14:56    2482788

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Replying To CillTormoir:  "Tj is not at the standard either. Goalkeeper reminds me of Skehil, you know a howler or 2 will happen in the match... V irratic."
TJ is well up to the standard, no doubt about that

Mayo52 (Mayo) - Posts: 44 - 30/05/2023 10:41:27    2482797

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Replying To galway19:  "We will have to live with that though as Daithi moving to 6 has given another dimension. Too late to switch back now."
You're right, Daithi is giving us another dimension in his new role, the one big positive (maybe one of the few so far) with the style of play Shefflin has introduced. At least he was brave enough to move Daithi away from fullback where he was never a natural. Centreback gives him the freedom to play with abandon and he's holding the team together from there right now.

Gearoid as Stool Pigeon says played as well as he could given that his corner backs were off both off colour and his comrades out the field gave him no help either with allowing Dublin to rain quality ball down on top of him. Neither of the two soft goals were his mistakes which is saying something. Have to accept he will always give up a few soft frees, but otherwise he's good in the air and physicality matters at fullback. We need a bit more pace to cover for Gearoid and Grealish probably adds that more than others.

More importantly, Shefflin has to sort midfield/half forward line so that we force more turnovers/win more primary possession and stop teams like Dublin having all the time in the world on the ball, that will hurt any fullback line. Whelan is nowhere at the moment and like Daithi needs repositioning, certainly to the half forward line or maybe even midfield. Out there he would at least snarl all day at the opposition and win dirty ball you'd imagine. Conor Cooney has to take time off and definitely we need no more penalties from him. Cianan Fahy and Linnane have to start as well against KK to add physicality. More direct ball into forwards needed also as defences have too much time to reset or at least Dublin's did.

I hope Henry has been toying with us up to now, otherwise!!

Flaherty (UK) - Posts: 116 - 30/05/2023 10:46:50    2482801

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Replying To puckemhard:  "I couldnt care less if Roscommon fans didnt support the Galway Hurlers , sure they dont even support theyre own county hurling team!

Think Sunday is a make or break moment for this team , its the kick up the tóin we need if we can use it, as the season for Galway starts now

I think Éanna Murphy who has been excellent last two years will learn not to be as sloppy , and I think his sloppyness was a sign of the whole team in the first half bar Joseph Cooney


When you have Whelan who usually is our terrier in the forwards not really working hard enough you know something is off.


Second half was much better and if you take in the 9 point swing of the penalty , and the two soft goals It would have been a different result

Thought Sean Linnane brought agression that we needed and Id expect him to start against KK. Grealish who was poor against KK will have to start id imagine . A lot will depend on how Cathal Mannion is fit , but i cant see him starting in the Leinster Final"
A good point about Eanna Murphy, he was sloppy on Sunday alright.

Also, even though i think he's a good keeper in general I hate the huge big wind up he does with his hurl when he pucks out in open play. Can someone not coach him to shorten the grip? Otherwise he will get caught out and be hooked one of these days. I'm sure opposing teams have made notes!

Flaherty (UK) - Posts: 116 - 30/05/2023 10:58:06    2482806

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "BS imo. He's one of the best defensive 'trackers' I've seen in a Galway defense in many a long day."
Have to agree with this. Not sure where the GMac hate club is coming from but the lad is solid as a rock. Great under a high ball and even when a forward is out in front he is normally able to get a hand/hurl/boot to make sure they don't get clean possession and once he gets the ball on the ground it's goodnight Irene to the forward trying to outmuscle him.

Slow to turn possibly as seen in the free he gave away under the Cusack (think it was missed anyway) but he is not slow in a straight line and is very effective coming out with the ball. Moving to three and being so safe is a big plus to Galway as it has released Daithi to 6 who is a much more natural hurler.

We may have problems but I don't think number 3 should be high up anyone's list.

SamandLiamSoon (Galway) - Posts: 588 - 30/05/2023 11:06:36    2482813

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Replying To SixtiesKid:  "The goalkeeper in in the top 3 in the country.
He made one error.
You made a spelling error"
If you think I am remarking that Dublin game alone you mustn't watch many Galway matches. 100% stand over my comment he is a liability and always an accident waiting to happen. What was that WWE move he tried when he was rounded for 2nd goal? No qualms with the goal, but if he connected with player it was a straight red...watch it back!

CillTormoir (Galway) - Posts: 485 - 30/05/2023 11:12:05    2482815

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Replying To festinog:  "That first goal.... lord above."
I know! I closed my eyes once Gmac was turned again and thought it was going over the bar until Murphy flapped at it.

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2192 - 30/05/2023 11:25:34    2482823

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Replying To Flaherty:  "You're right, Daithi is giving us another dimension in his new role, the one big positive (maybe one of the few so far) with the style of play Shefflin has introduced. At least he was brave enough to move Daithi away from fullback where he was never a natural. Centreback gives him the freedom to play with abandon and he's holding the team together from there right now.

Gearoid as Stool Pigeon says played as well as he could given that his corner backs were off both off colour and his comrades out the field gave him no help either with allowing Dublin to rain quality ball down on top of him. Neither of the two soft goals were his mistakes which is saying something. Have to accept he will always give up a few soft frees, but otherwise he's good in the air and physicality matters at fullback. We need a bit more pace to cover for Gearoid and Grealish probably adds that more than others.

More importantly, Shefflin has to sort midfield/half forward line so that we force more turnovers/win more primary possession and stop teams like Dublin having all the time in the world on the ball, that will hurt any fullback line. Whelan is nowhere at the moment and like Daithi needs repositioning, certainly to the half forward line or maybe even midfield. Out there he would at least snarl all day at the opposition and win dirty ball you'd imagine. Conor Cooney has to take time off and definitely we need no more penalties from him. Cianan Fahy and Linnane have to start as well against KK to add physicality. More direct ball into forwards needed also as defences have too much time to reset or at least Dublin's did.

I hope Henry has been toying with us up to now, otherwise!!"
Daithi never 'a natural' at no3? A 4or5 time all-star playing the position. He was clearly natural enough to catch the eye of the all-star judges........a lot!!

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3410 - 30/05/2023 11:26:57    2482824

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Replying To Flaherty:  "A good point about Eanna Murphy, he was sloppy on Sunday alright.

Also, even though i think he's a good keeper in general I hate the huge big wind up he does with his hurl when he pucks out in open play. Can someone not coach him to shorten the grip? Otherwise he will get caught out and be hooked one of these days. I'm sure opposing teams have made notes!"
Galway love an accident prone goalie in both sports. Colm Callanan was a super goalie, pity he wasn't 10 years younger.
Eanna Murphy isn't terrible but there's always a worry with him. The big wind up has been caught a few times and I remember Niall Mitchell actually scored a goal direcctly by blocking him down. What happend Darach Fahy, was very impressed when he was drafted in to play Waterford championship 2021, one of the bright sparks from that day, maybe he's just not doing it in training or challenge games, Henry no fool tbf. Eanna Murphy poor under the high ball, he's conceded a few that way too, the goal Conor MacDonald scored a few weeks ago was very poor by him. He was good last year, still had some wobbles, the goal by Kilkenny in Salthill was awful at the end, but overall was one of the better goalies in Ireland last yea but seems to have gone back to his 2020/21 form again. His puckouts are either excellent or terrible atm, missing some brilliant ones with terrible ones, I'll give him credit that he does try things but maybe goes overboard with things, seems to overthink things at times. Hopefully that's the poor performances out of the way this year and he pushes on

Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin (Wexford) - Posts: 258 - 30/05/2023 11:32:34    2482828

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Replying To SamandLiamSoon:  "Management (and players) can take the blame for the beginning but it was the management's substitutions that changed the game. Every one of them to a man (Bar Collins who was on late) made a telling contribution.

No problem blaming management. More intelligent to give some limited praise when its also justified too.

Daithí pointed out the biggest issue which was either the half back line not pushing up or the half forward line not dropping deep enough to pick up the Dublin half forward line dropping deep. Galway did neither and gave them the freedom of the park. To compound matters the strength of the breeze meant they Dublin middle 8 could simply shoot from distance under no pressure and not have to bring it into contact of the non existent Galway half back line. It took 26mins of the first half for Galway management/players to work this out (way way to long.)

Plenty to work out but Galway stayed in the fight. 2021 was similar and Galway never raised a gallop at all."
That was the key problem alright. We seemed to have an exposed setup with the halfbacks and midfield in the first half. The wind factor was significant, and we didn't seem to factor it into our 'setup' at all. That's where this team, and of course any team, misses a midfield pairing like Johnny Coen and David Burke. Joe Cooney and Tom Monaghan were busy starting to accumulate 0-8, from I'm hearing 14 long pots, but absolutely nobody in the 8to12 region seemed to be providing any defensive resistance to the Dubs lively opening in the midfield sector, and neither were they getting on enough ball to stem the Dublin flow, and get traffic flowing in the opposite direction. Throw in the 2 own goals, and it left us in a 12point hole early in the second half. Hats off to all concerned for salvaging a draw out of that mildly calamitous opening 40mins or so.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3410 - 30/05/2023 11:52:38    2482833

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Replying To Flaherty:  "You're right, Daithi is giving us another dimension in his new role, the one big positive (maybe one of the few so far) with the style of play Shefflin has introduced. At least he was brave enough to move Daithi away from fullback where he was never a natural. Centreback gives him the freedom to play with abandon and he's holding the team together from there right now.

Gearoid as Stool Pigeon says played as well as he could given that his corner backs were off both off colour and his comrades out the field gave him no help either with allowing Dublin to rain quality ball down on top of him. Neither of the two soft goals were his mistakes which is saying something. Have to accept he will always give up a few soft frees, but otherwise he's good in the air and physicality matters at fullback. We need a bit more pace to cover for Gearoid and Grealish probably adds that more than others.

More importantly, Shefflin has to sort midfield/half forward line so that we force more turnovers/win more primary possession and stop teams like Dublin having all the time in the world on the ball, that will hurt any fullback line. Whelan is nowhere at the moment and like Daithi needs repositioning, certainly to the half forward line or maybe even midfield. Out there he would at least snarl all day at the opposition and win dirty ball you'd imagine. Conor Cooney has to take time off and definitely we need no more penalties from him. Cianan Fahy and Linnane have to start as well against KK to add physicality. More direct ball into forwards needed also as defences have too much time to reset or at least Dublin's did.

I hope Henry has been toying with us up to now, otherwise!!"
least he was brave enough to move Daithi away from fullback where he was never a natural. Centreback gives him the freedom to play with abandon

Hard to know where to start with the above! Cant see anyone agreeing with the first point and a hurling centre back playing with abandon at any level would be some recipe for disaster! For Dublins first goal chance on Sunday DB was in the number 10 position. You wont get away with that later in the year. I certainly wouldnt like to be playing in the FB line with my CB "playing with abandon"

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 30/05/2023 12:07:36    2482842

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "Daithi never 'a natural' at no3? A 4or5 time all-star playing the position. He was clearly natural enough to catch the eye of the all-star judges........a lot!!"
Pope, the evidence was in all the soft goals we were conceding through the middle in 2018/19 and later. Even the 17 final he was way out of position for our two goals. And with his talents he was wasted where he was, just look at him now when he's free to roam.

He got all stars because we were in finals, he's a great hurler, did flashy stuff, great fielding and so on but in reality our fullback line was all over the place in those years, conceding two or three soft goals every game, partly because Daithi (and who can blame him) wanted to be always on the ball and he doesn't really do man marking.

The best fullbacks are almost invisible. Sure Daithi could still do a job at fullback but I'd prefer GMAC as he'll stay at home and mind the space back there better.

Flaherty (UK) - Posts: 116 - 30/05/2023 12:32:24    2482851

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Replying To Flaherty:  "Pope, the evidence was in all the soft goals we were conceding through the middle in 2018/19 and later. Even the 17 final he was way out of position for our two goals. And with his talents he was wasted where he was, just look at him now when he's free to roam.

He got all stars because we were in finals, he's a great hurler, did flashy stuff, great fielding and so on but in reality our fullback line was all over the place in those years, conceding two or three soft goals every game, partly because Daithi (and who can blame him) wanted to be always on the ball and he doesn't really do man marking.

The best fullbacks are almost invisible. Sure Daithi could still do a job at fullback but I'd prefer GMAC as he'll stay at home and mind the space back there better."
If we are going down the route of criticizing Daithí as a full back we may as well forget about it. He'll be remembered as one of the best full backs in the game. An All Ireland in the pocket along with 5 All Stars at full back. So in the last 8 years his peers viewed him as a the best full back in the country for 8 of them!

Invisible full back?? Hard to be invisible when you are going toe to toe with TJ, Horgan, Gillane and Corbett to name just a few. Few if any got the better of him on any given day.

SamandLiamSoon (Galway) - Posts: 588 - 30/05/2023 13:03:09    2482863

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Replying To tiobraid:  "least he was brave enough to move Daithi away from fullback where he was never a natural. Centreback gives him the freedom to play with abandon

Hard to know where to start with the above! Cant see anyone agreeing with the first point and a hurling centre back playing with abandon at any level would be some recipe for disaster! For Dublins first goal chance on Sunday DB was in the number 10 position. You wont get away with that later in the year. I certainly wouldnt like to be playing in the FB line with my CB "playing with abandon""
Tiobraid, you don't make a lot of sense here, he scored our goal on Sunday from just 10 metres out from Dublins goaline so if that is not a centreback playing with "abandon" I don't know what is! And it was no disaster Sunday.

Sure he can't be out of position all the time like that but at centreback he can take those risks and he's good enough to do it, provided his teammates give him some cover. But he also took those risks when he played fullback and I think I am being "sensible" in saying that's not on for a fullback. You're saying he should still be our fullback i presume? Preferably any time we play Tipp maybe...

Flaherty (UK) - Posts: 116 - 30/05/2023 13:15:49    2482871

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Replying To SamandLiamSoon:  "If we are going down the route of criticizing Daithí as a full back we may as well forget about it. He'll be remembered as one of the best full backs in the game. An All Ireland in the pocket along with 5 All Stars at full back. So in the last 8 years his peers viewed him as a the best full back in the country for 8 of them!

Invisible full back?? Hard to be invisible when you are going toe to toe with TJ, Horgan, Gillane and Corbett to name just a few. Few if any got the better of him on any given day."
You're entitled to your opinion but all I'm saying he is a better centre back than a full back and I'm pretty sure he would have won even more All Stars from centre back. Heaven knows he's probably won this years all star for centre back already and Galway haven't even played a decent game yet this year.

Don't get me wrong, he was brilliant at full back too. However, we conceded plenty of goals as a full back line in the last five/six so all was not right back there, he's now in his best position.

Flaherty (UK) - Posts: 116 - 30/05/2023 14:49:55    2482926

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Replying To Flaherty:  "You're right, Daithi is giving us another dimension in his new role, the one big positive (maybe one of the few so far) with the style of play Shefflin has introduced. At least he was brave enough to move Daithi away from fullback where he was never a natural. Centreback gives him the freedom to play with abandon and he's holding the team together from there right now.

Gearoid as Stool Pigeon says played as well as he could given that his corner backs were off both off colour and his comrades out the field gave him no help either with allowing Dublin to rain quality ball down on top of him. Neither of the two soft goals were his mistakes which is saying something. Have to accept he will always give up a few soft frees, but otherwise he's good in the air and physicality matters at fullback. We need a bit more pace to cover for Gearoid and Grealish probably adds that more than others.

More importantly, Shefflin has to sort midfield/half forward line so that we force more turnovers/win more primary possession and stop teams like Dublin having all the time in the world on the ball, that will hurt any fullback line. Whelan is nowhere at the moment and like Daithi needs repositioning, certainly to the half forward line or maybe even midfield. Out there he would at least snarl all day at the opposition and win dirty ball you'd imagine. Conor Cooney has to take time off and definitely we need no more penalties from him. Cianan Fahy and Linnane have to start as well against KK to add physicality. More direct ball into forwards needed also as defences have too much time to reset or at least Dublin's did.

I hope Henry has been toying with us up to now, otherwise!!"
Daithi Burke not a natural FB and Whelan a midfielder


This might be the worst post on this board and that beats some seriously stiff competition

Kinvara (Galway) - Posts: 123 - 30/05/2023 14:55:41    2482930

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Replying To Flaherty:  "Pope, the evidence was in all the soft goals we were conceding through the middle in 2018/19 and later. Even the 17 final he was way out of position for our two goals. And with his talents he was wasted where he was, just look at him now when he's free to roam.

He got all stars because we were in finals, he's a great hurler, did flashy stuff, great fielding and so on but in reality our fullback line was all over the place in those years, conceding two or three soft goals every game, partly because Daithi (and who can blame him) wanted to be always on the ball and he doesn't really do man marking.

The best fullbacks are almost invisible. Sure Daithi could still do a job at fullback but I'd prefer GMAC as he'll stay at home and mind the space back there better."
Jeez you're a hard man please, the best full back in the country since Brian Lohan or even make a case for him being better. He solved the biggest problem in galway hurling in full back since Conor Hayes, that was 30 years of having no one in there, goes in and wins 5 all stars. Gave some of the best displays in full back I've ever seen, even in loosing days, 2016 v Tipp, 2017, 2018 replay v Clare, 2020 v Limerick, even 2019 he was the best player over all the games. Even the days he struggled he still broke even, with a busted ankle in 2018 v Conlon, the first half v Callanan in 20. The rest of Ireland must be in a full back crisis if Daithi was a problem.

Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin (Wexford) - Posts: 258 - 30/05/2023 15:41:05    2482949

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the fine weather getting to peoples heads here... Daithi burke is the best full back galway ever had, and weve had a few decent ones. Ive heard lads who were on the 87/88 team even say that!

clare_sparrow (Galway) - Posts: 425 - 30/05/2023 15:46:57    2482951

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Replying To clare_sparrow:  "the fine weather getting to peoples heads here... Daithi burke is the best full back galway ever had, and weve had a few decent ones. Ive heard lads who were on the 87/88 team even say that!"
This would be daithi 9 season inter county as a starter and has only actually played full back fully from 2017-20 He was wing back in 15 and started centre back in 16. He had to move to full back due to Callanan destroying us in 2015 and he put a stop to that in 16&17.

Hard to know what his best position would be from 2-9 as he's so good but anyone to say he was an issue at full back has sun stroke

jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1159 - 30/05/2023 16:57:49    2482973

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