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I think most people would accept that Tests / challenge matches in rugby carry far more significance in rugby than in other sports. But surely they do not carry the same significance as actual full competition internationals? I know the margin is closer, but competitions games are what really matters. Would you accept that it would be a greater achievement to beat NZ, or any other team in a structured competition rather than in a once off challenge? Personally I would place far more significance on the various wins away to England in recent years or the wins against Australia and France in recent world cups than that NZ result himachechy (Donegal) - Posts:76 - 15/03/2017 12:02:03We can only play New Zealand in a world cup, in a full competition and we've done that once in 8 tournaments and yes these games do carry same significance as the 6 Nations and other tournaments. Theyre are only opps to play the big Southern Hemisphere sides outside of world cup so they do matter hugely. And the games are not simply one off challenges. Beating England/France is nothing compared to beating as what matt williams calls them "Bloody New Zealand". ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 15/03/2017 13:29:10 1967260 Link
Look it was great to beat New Zealand for the first time regardless of whether it was a test or in a world cup or whatever. I was delighted. Now that that's done though and beating them again would not be historic there is no one that will tell me that beating New Zealand in a random test would be better than winning any 6 nations/world cup match. Why would it? Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12351 - 15/03/2017 13:48:49 1967273 Link
This thread has gone some distance like a rolling maul. Rugby has had it's day. Fads will come and go. Gaelic Games are the natural habitat and heartbeat of our Emerald Isle. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8793 - 15/03/2017 17:29:13 1967350 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "This thread has gone some distance like a rolling maul. Rugby has had it's day. Fads will come and go. Gaelic Games are the natural habitat and heartbeat of our Emerald Isle." Should be some yellow cards for Janesboro and Ormondbannerman or Ormond for short for trying to collapse it Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12351 - 15/03/2017 17:49:58 1967354 Link
Replying To Breffni39: "Should be some yellow cards for Janesboro and Ormondbannerman or Ormond for short for trying to collapse it" I want to collapse the maul myself or have it booted into touch in the form of the Other Sports forum! legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8793 - 15/03/2017 18:07:13 1967358 Link
Replying To Breffni39: "Should be some yellow cards for Janesboro and Ormondbannerman or Ormond for short for trying to collapse it" I think them boys "took the soup" tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts: 550 - 15/03/2017 23:14:19 1967431 Link
Replying To tonydoranfan: "I think them boys "took the soup"" I'll bet tonydoranfan, that very few posters here know what "taking the soup" means. I was told what it means when I was on the island of Dunquin (Dún Chaoin), off the coast of Kerry a few years ago by our tourist guide, who gave us the history of the Island. Probably a few of the Kerry posters here know what it means. lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 3028 - 16/03/2017 01:28:47 1967448 Link
Replying To ormondbannerman: "I think most people would accept that Tests / challenge matches in rugby carry far more significance in rugby than in other sports. But surely they do not carry the same significance as actual full competition internationals? I know the margin is closer, but competitions games are what really matters. Would you accept that it would be a greater achievement to beat NZ, or any other team in a structured competition rather than in a once off challenge? Personally I would place far more significance on the various wins away to England in recent years or the wins against Australia and France in recent world cups than that NZ result himachechy (Donegal) - Posts:76 - 15/03/2017 12:02:03We can only play New Zealand in a world cup, in a full competition and we've done that once in 8 tournaments and yes these games do carry same significance as the 6 Nations and other tournaments. Theyre are only opps to play the big Southern Hemisphere sides outside of world cup so they do matter hugely. And the games are not simply one off challenges. Beating England/France is nothing compared to beating as what matt williams calls them "Bloody New Zealand"." Fair enough, that's your opinion. I enjoyed beating the ABs as much as anyone, but I think that saying a November international or summer tour were very often top players are rested and new players are blooded carry same significance as six nations games is crazy. Those tour games basically exist to generate money for the various unions... you really are buying too much into the marketing Ormo. I'd say NZ, while not wanting to lose to us, are having a right laugh about us making documentaries about beating them. Its pure cringe man. Ireland are touring Japan next summer... will that be as big as six nations? with all the best players with the Lions? If not, the how we decipher which test is meaningful and which is isn't? (answer: we create competitions .....) himachechy (Donegal) - Posts: 293 - 16/03/2017 10:06:20 1967477 Link
Replying To tonydoranfan: "I think them boys "took the soup"" Ha deffo Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12351 - 16/03/2017 10:25:02 1967483 Link
Replying To lilywhite1: "I'll bet tonydoranfan, that very few posters here know what "taking the soup" means. I was told what it means when I was on the island of Dunquin (Dún Chaoin), off the coast of Kerry a few years ago by our tourist guide, who gave us the history of the Island. Probably a few of the Kerry posters here know what it means." Dún Chaoin is an island??? The Blaskets maybe. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13797 - 16/03/2017 10:37:01 1967489 Link
I think them boys "took the soup" --tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts:214 - 15/03/2017 23:14:19 was down in cork last night to cheer on my beloved limerick, proud of the performances but gutted with the result, third year in a row we have gone toe to toe with the big guns in munster - and third year we just came short. but my dissappointed is lightened with the comedy gold that is put up here (well only a bit) so even though i love hurling footballand rugby in equal measue i am a "souper" but i have to laugh this is coming from somebody who around two weeks ago was posting that he was watching a womens rugby game on tv, at the same time his county were playing a very important home nfl game, couldnt even be bothered to support his team , tell you something if limerick were playing a home (and most of the time even an away league) there is no game of rugby on tv that would make me miss it - (id record the rugby and watch it after) ...ah well i do get a laugh! janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 16/03/2017 10:49:29 1967492 Link
hate to tell you lillywhite -dunquin is on the mainland michael o muircheartaigh home town janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 16/03/2017 10:51:43 1967493 Link
Replying To tonydoranfan: "I think them boys "took the soup"" A very petty thing to say about posters just because they also like non-GAA sports. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7982 - 16/03/2017 21:12:13 1967692 Link
Tomsmith here I see the Hype now on RTE extends to the U 20 ruggers tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 4033 - 17/03/2017 19:29:42 1967933 Link
Replying To tomsmith: "Tomsmith here I see the Hype now on RTE extends to the U 20 ruggers" well tom the "hype" and "pr" must be working seeing as you are watching it - maybe you should come up with a suggestion for better coverage - oh sorry im ahem "throwing my toys out of the pram" there is a post about a galicia v france game - there has to be a documentary in this janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 17/03/2017 23:39:51 1968035 Link
Replying To janesboro: "well tom the "hype" and "pr" must be working seeing as you are watching it - maybe you should come up with a suggestion for better coverage - oh sorry im ahem "throwing my toys out of the pram" there is a post about a galicia v france game - there has to be a documentary in this" Tomsmith here Well Jonesboro I can tell you the Hype is alive and well, I saw a game St Pats Day ( fri) and one team had not scored in the first half and the RTE commentator was elated about how well we were doing. In another under age game that we got beat in a reporter was saying how well we played. Pure hype played out to a guilable audiance who want to mix / associate with the white collared crowd who eat their dinners when the rest of us are thinking about supper . Look at the newspapers this morning , I would hate to have to read some of these papers if we would have won the two games yesterday tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 4033 - 18/03/2017 14:34:41 1968137 Link
Replying To tomsmith: "Tomsmith here Well Jonesboro I can tell you the Hype is alive and well, I saw a game St Pats Day ( fri) and one team had not scored in the first half and the RTE commentator was elated about how well we were doing. In another under age game that we got beat in a reporter was saying how well we played. Pure hype played out to a guilable audiance who want to mix / associate with the white collared crowd who eat their dinners when the rest of us are thinking about supper . Look at the newspapers this morning , I would hate to have to read some of these papers if we would have won the two games yesterday" Aren't we so lucky to have you Tom just in case the gullible among us don't see the folly of our ways? And it's wonderful that you have so much time to devote to watching and reading about rugby so you can keep us informed. You are providing a wonderful service for us all. jimski (Kildare) - Posts: 381 - 18/03/2017 16:01:06 1968158 Link
Replying To GreenandRed: "A very petty thing to say about posters just because they also like non-GAA sports." Not a bit petty.. For a gaa forum its seems that it you say anything negative about rugby you will get hammered by certain people on here.. I have played and enjoy all sports but what gets to me is the total overloaded hype that rugby gets on rte and the press in general.. Looking forward to the game this evening but really ireland plays well above its weight in Rugby and its general popularity is totaly hyped tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts: 550 - 18/03/2017 17:06:22 1968182 Link
Replying To tonydoranfan: "Not a bit petty.. For a gaa forum its seems that it you say anything negative about rugby you will get hammered by certain people on here.. I have played and enjoy all sports but what gets to me is the total overloaded hype that rugby gets on rte and the press in general.. Looking forward to the game this evening but really ireland plays well above its weight in Rugby and its general popularity is totaly hyped" Just the term souptakers you used I thought wasn't funny, it was petty. I agree with a lot of your rugby comments. The game was better 10 years ago to watch. Now it's harder to distinguish, without numbers on them, some backs from backrows. All bulked up, more reliant on power nowadays and less on skills, more conservative, programmed by the coaches, less off-the-cuff stuff from players. Schmidt doesn't seem to trust flair players like Zebo. Many of the rugby TV audience drawn in by what you'd call hype, I'd call it clever marketing, we'll never agree on that. They've never been to a game, many might have a club in their own town they've never been to, casual TV fans, nowhere nearly as knowledgeable as most GAA TV supporters. We beat England in a game today that means nothing but ranking points. Great to beat England at anything and stop them winning a Grand Slam and breaking a record but ultimately it means nothing. Papers will be gushing about it tomorrow, before you say it! I still enjoy watching it but prefer some Pro 12 games than Schmidt's Ireland team. But I think we need some GAA hype. I think many in the GAA are in a 'we're the only show in town' comfort zone. There's thousands of tourists here at championships time and many empty seats at games and they don't even know we've our own games. Plenty of competition for the GAA between other sports, PlayStation's, Netlix, i-Pads, etc for children's attention but I don't think they can see it. Just my opinion. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7982 - 18/03/2017 19:49:26 1968217 Link
Replying To tonydoranfan: "Not a bit petty.. For a gaa forum its seems that it you say anything negative about rugby you will get hammered by certain people on here.. I have played and enjoy all sports but what gets to me is the total overloaded hype that rugby gets on rte and the press in general.. Looking forward to the game this evening but really ireland plays well above its weight in Rugby and its general popularity is totaly hyped" we can now say goodbye to this forum and hopefully to the rugger heads that have infiltrated this site as the D4 brigade see their beloved pastime sucked into the pockets of Irelands media oligarch. Bye bye rugger hype as it is no longer on the national network. Lets hope we never have to witness the bizarre spectacle of our national broadcaster celebrating mediocre performances in a minority sport with no hint of real criticism. sceptical (Cavan) - Posts: 544 - 18/03/2017 20:05:13 1968221 Link