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Kiltale Kildalkey - This will be close but I think Kiltale will have enough of a bench if required to win by 4 or 5
Trim Killyon - A hard game to call with 2 teams very similiar. Trim losing football should help the hurling, a good win over Blackhall should help too and playing it in Navan will be more of an advantage to Trim as well. I think it could go to extra time but Trim to win out by 2 or 3 either way.

toon (Meath) - Posts: 247 - 27/09/2016 11:59:19    1919591

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Kildalkey v Kiltale: Really looking forward to this tussle. Kiltale are a talented team with Forde, Kelly Bro's, Regan and Durnin leading the way. When on form they're very hard to stop. Kildalkey are a team you just have to admire, tough but fair, always well coached, honesty and heart that shows in every game they play alone with no lack of talent either with Conneely's, Geoghehan, Dorans and Kearney. Can Kiltale be contained is the question as they have a lot of pace through the team, and can Kildalkey close down Kiltale while also getting enough scores. Think this game might need extra time with a more hungry Kildalkey winning by 1point.
Killyon v Trim: another cracker. Killyon have being the form team this year and have great players in Gannon, Keoghan and Raleigh's. Trim are slowly improving and are always a danger when with Heffernan, Douglas and Toher playing. Trim will bring pace to game while Killyon bring intensity and work rate. Again IMO extra time will be needed and Killyon to win by 1 point.

Redsalltheway (Meath) - Posts: 116 - 03/10/2016 18:41:51    1922064

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Any idea what odds you'd get for a Killyon+ Kildalkey both AET double....?

Tough to make predictions for either game. Any time I reckon Kiltale might be slipping they go out and do what they do best: a solid victory that makes you wonder why you even doubted them. Last years final for example, it wasn't a 20 point loss like Trim the year before but it may as well have been since Kildalkey never looked like winning. I'll play it safe and go for Kiltale again.

Toss of a coin between Killyon and Trim. Their last match was strange as neither team seemed to fire on all cylinders, but Killyon caught Trim asleep for the last point which won it. Both teams will probably open up in this match so it'll be tough and exciting, I'll go for Killyon, just on a hunch.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1677 - 03/10/2016 22:49:32    1922171

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Replying To CastleBravo:  "Any idea what odds you'd get for a Killyon+ Kildalkey both AET double....?

Tough to make predictions for either game. Any time I reckon Kiltale might be slipping they go out and do what they do best: a solid victory that makes you wonder why you even doubted them. Last years final for example, it wasn't a 20 point loss like Trim the year before but it may as well have been since Kildalkey never looked like winning. I'll play it safe and go for Kiltale again.

Toss of a coin between Killyon and Trim. Their last match was strange as neither team seemed to fire on all cylinders, but Killyon caught Trim asleep for the last point which won it. Both teams will probably open up in this match so it'll be tough and exciting, I'll go for Killyon, just on a hunch."
dont think you could get odds
i dont think the kiltale kildalkey game will be close anyways. Kiltale are operating at a different level to every other team at the moment.

Other game could go either way but dont think either team would trouble kiltale.

It would be nice to see kiltale go far in the leinster and all ireland series. They seem to under perform in that competition over the past few years.

overthehill72 (Meath) - Posts: 334 - 04/10/2016 13:44:40    1922372

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Replying To overthehill72:  "dont think you could get odds
i dont think the kiltale kildalkey game will be close anyways. Kiltale are operating at a different level to every other team at the moment.

Other game could go either way but dont think either team would trouble kiltale.

It would be nice to see kiltale go far in the leinster and all ireland series. They seem to under perform in that competition over the past few years."
Trim beat Kiltale last year in the group stages and as I was at that game there was nothing in it and kiltale had all the key men playing and it wasn't that they had an off day. so on their day trim /kilyon and kildalky can all put it up to kiltale. the 20 point drubbing seriously damaged trims mental strength but that result was more down to ridiculous management decisions on trims part that handed the game to kiltale withing the first 10 minutes.

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 651 - 04/10/2016 14:15:04    1922387

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Replying To Irish_downunder:  "Trim beat Kiltale last year in the group stages and as I was at that game there was nothing in it and kiltale had all the key men playing and it wasn't that they had an off day. so on their day trim /kilyon and kildalky can all put it up to kiltale. the 20 point drubbing seriously damaged trims mental strength but that result was more down to ridiculous management decisions on trims part that handed the game to kiltale withing the first 10 minutes."
trim beat them in a last round group game with kiltale already certain of top spot, a dead rubber in other words

hurlit (Meath) - Posts: 430 - 04/10/2016 15:27:09    1922436

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Replying To hurlit:  "trim beat them in a last round group game with kiltale already certain of top spot, a dead rubber in other words"
ah your right kiltale did roll over. sure call off the last few games and hand the jubilee to kiltale

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 651 - 04/10/2016 16:53:48    1922489

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So its kiltale killyon final in 2 weeks.
Kiltale never got out of second gear and when they needed scores they got them very easily. Kildalkey 1.2 at start of second half and then 1.2 at end made game look closer.
Killyon got the better of Trim rather easily in the end. They should have put them away in normal team only for a poor decision firstly not to award a sideline to Killyon and then a very soft free to Trim. Killyon struggled for scores from play and relied on Keoghan from placed balls which will be a concern against Kiltale.

toon (Meath) - Posts: 247 - 10/10/2016 09:23:13    1924376

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Kiltale by 10+ points in the final.

RedMeath12 (Meath) - Posts: 117 - 10/10/2016 10:07:54    1924395

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Replying To toon:  "So its kiltale killyon final in 2 weeks.
Kiltale never got out of second gear and when they needed scores they got them very easily. Kildalkey 1.2 at start of second half and then 1.2 at end made game look closer.
Killyon got the better of Trim rather easily in the end. They should have put them away in normal team only for a poor decision firstly not to award a sideline to Killyon and then a very soft free to Trim. Killyon struggled for scores from play and relied on Keoghan from placed balls which will be a concern against Kiltale."
Yes, I would agree with that. Kiltale only needed to be in 2nd gear to get out of the group, 3rd gear against Kildalkey and i suspect that they will hit 4th gear in the final and, it's difficult to see Killyon living with that. However, Killyon are tenacious and Kiltale will not be able to take them for granted and they will need to up their performance from Saturday but i think they will do that.

I would also agree that Killyon were better than Trim for most of yesterday. That said Trim could easily have beaten them in normal times with at least 3 missed frees that Toher would normally score. Once again Toher scorer in chief for Trim and without him they are very ordinary. Killyon beat Trim hands down tactically and the mini coup that resulted in changing the manager doesn't seem to have worked as they are well off the pace. Killyon's simple tactic of moving a wing forward back as a sweeper was the winning of the game as no good ball got through to Douglas & Heffernan and they got increasingly frustrated. From the outside it looks as if Trim need a management clear out as it looks very stale there.

oldsam_newsam (Meath) - Posts: 638 - 10/10/2016 10:28:39    1924399

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First of all , trim were level at full time , level at the end of the first half of extra time . They could easily have won in the last half of extra time if they had not missed 3 great goal opportunitys. I had no idea that Toher was GOD , he scored 1.7 and sent over a great sideline cut that was disallowed. It's hard to believe a lad can't miss an odd free in 90 minutes !!! As for a clear out of the management what a laugh. Perhaps kildalkey should have a clear out of management too.

hurley1 (Meath) - Posts: 45 - 10/10/2016 12:01:00    1924446

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Replying To hurley1:  "First of all , trim were level at full time , level at the end of the first half of extra time . They could easily have won in the last half of extra time if they had not missed 3 great goal opportunitys. I had no idea that Toher was GOD , he scored 1.7 and sent over a great sideline cut that was disallowed. It's hard to believe a lad can't miss an odd free in 90 minutes !!! As for a clear out of the management what a laugh. Perhaps kildalkey should have a clear out of management too."
Sorry Hurley1 if I hit a nerve, I wasnt saying that Toher is God and very few players will score all frees all of the time.

I was saying that Trim could easily have won the game which you are also saying. However, do you not agree that the sweeper employed by Killyon had a huge impact especially in the 2nd half of normal time? Trim had the firepower to win this but they were snuffed out.

oldsam_newsam (Meath) - Posts: 638 - 10/10/2016 12:46:06    1924467

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the frees that he missed were easy frees though which cost them dearly i dont think he is a free taker that will get every single one in crunch time he had to be taken off them in christy ring final was very surprised damien magee wasnt put on them at a stage during a game

meathman20 (Meath) - Posts: 83 - 10/10/2016 13:05:42    1924478

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Totally wrong there , Toher was not "taken off the frees" in the Christy ring contrary to what you may have heard. He himself asked Stephen clinch to take the last couple of frees as he broke his best hurley( which is clear to be seen in the replay ) and he didn't trust the replacement ! Full stop!!! And what a lad to do that ! This is a fact . Looking back he scored 28 pts ,frees and from play in the semi final and both replays. Some performance.

hurley1 (Meath) - Posts: 45 - 10/10/2016 14:07:34    1924525

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Replying To hurley1:  "Totally wrong there , Toher was not "taken off the frees" in the Christy ring contrary to what you may have heard. He himself asked Stephen clinch to take the last couple of frees as he broke his best hurley( which is clear to be seen in the replay ) and he didn't trust the replacement ! Full stop!!! And what a lad to do that ! This is a fact . Looking back he scored 28 pts ,frees and from play in the semi final and both replays. Some performance."
Broke his best hurley? Ah come off it, did he not have his lucky underwear on either? Toher is an exceptional player, best in Trim, top 2 or 3 in the county but clearly didn't fancy the frees that day and who better to have there than Clynch. Don't be making lame excuses.

Trim lost yesterday because they failed to take any of the 4 goal chances they created. They were undone tactically by a sweeper system that Kilyon have used in every single game this year, league and championship and they still didn't see it coming.

begining (UK) - Posts: 320 - 10/10/2016 14:39:16    1924548

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Killyon did what they've done all year and dugout a win based on workrate and heart. It was a poor game tho with no quality. Trim are limited, Toher and co are overrated and Trim need more young players to come through, keoghan and Gannon keep Killyon in games and they'll need big performances in final to have a chance. Kiltale will walk the final as this semi final win over Kildalkey was they're real final and hardest challenge. Kiltale got a big half time lead of 9points and Kildalkey tried everything to get back into the game but Kiltale were just too strong and always got the scores to keep Kildalkey at bay. James Kelly must be brought back into county hurling set up, best hurler in county while the Kildalkey full backline was excellent too.

Redsalltheway (Meath) - Posts: 116 - 10/10/2016 14:57:29    1924559

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I believe he scored 12 in that match, this comment really doesn't credit a response .

hurley1 (Meath) - Posts: 45 - 10/10/2016 15:00:13    1924562

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Killyon extremely dogged team. They will make it very uncomfortable for kiltale to play. Adam Flanagan is also an added boost to them. Don't see any reason killyon can't win it now to be honest. Kiltale certainly won't walk it.

Royalace (Meath) - Posts: 121 - 10/10/2016 16:27:41    1924599

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Adam Flanagan played extremely well for a guy just returning from a serious injury and moved well around the park. With a bit more hurling he could be a good addition for the county but I'm sure Andy with stop that ever happening.

Killyon very dogged alright but I would feel they have more to show than they had yesterday. Its unfair to say they depend on Gannon and keoghan as their defence was top notch yesterday. Don't know who the corner back was but he was relentless yesterday. Like glue.

Dont know what the odds are but it will suit killyon down to the ground going in as the underdog. And it is the year of the underdog guys.

Foley91 (Meath) - Posts: 418 - 10/10/2016 17:11:11    1924621

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Replying To oldsam_newsam:  "Yes, I would agree with that. Kiltale only needed to be in 2nd gear to get out of the group, 3rd gear against Kildalkey and i suspect that they will hit 4th gear in the final and, it's difficult to see Killyon living with that. However, Killyon are tenacious and Kiltale will not be able to take them for granted and they will need to up their performance from Saturday but i think they will do that.

I would also agree that Killyon were better than Trim for most of yesterday. That said Trim could easily have beaten them in normal times with at least 3 missed frees that Toher would normally score. Once again Toher scorer in chief for Trim and without him they are very ordinary. Killyon beat Trim hands down tactically and the mini coup that resulted in changing the manager doesn't seem to have worked as they are well off the pace. Killyon's simple tactic of moving a wing forward back as a sweeper was the winning of the game as no good ball got through to Douglas & Heffernan and they got increasingly frustrated. From the outside it looks as if Trim need a management clear out as it looks very stale there."
Firstly Clancy walked away under his own steam this year and Chivers was covering the hole that he left. there will be a new manager this coming year.. Trim Have been found Wanting tactically over the last few years. they dont have the talent or depth other teams do but they don't use what they have very well.

The fact that kilyon played a sweeper should have been no surprise to trim as thats how they bet them in the group stages. They are unable to re-act to changes

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 651 - 10/10/2016 19:09:49    1924649

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