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Replying To meathman20:  "the frees that he missed were easy frees though which cost them dearly i dont think he is a free taker that will get every single one in crunch time he had to be taken off them in christy ring final was very surprised damien magee wasnt put on them at a stage during a game"
there is a good chance mcgee wouldn be able to get over to pick the ball these days so that prob why wasnt on frees

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 651 - 10/10/2016 19:11:49    1924650

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Some harsh statements but some true ones all the same
Trim do rely heavily on togher and Douglas but name a team that doesn't rely on county stars
Trims biggest problem is that others fail to step up when needed like yesterday and they are limited with what's coming trough the ranks
One major cause for concern is their fittness is rock bottom as mentioned in previous post with regards some players they are very slow
With regards management I have said in previous post the same for the last 10 years at least , is there nobody else in trim who would take it ?
Where have all the players who had success gone?
Can anyone in trim answer

umpireview (Meath) - Posts: 55 - 10/10/2016 20:00:15    1924660

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Replying To umpireview:  "Some harsh statements but some true ones all the same
Trim do rely heavily on togher and Douglas but name a team that doesn't rely on county stars
Trims biggest problem is that others fail to step up when needed like yesterday and they are limited with what's coming trough the ranks
One major cause for concern is their fittness is rock bottom as mentioned in previous post with regards some players they are very slow
With regards management I have said in previous post the same for the last 10 years at least , is there nobody else in trim who would take it ?
Where have all the players who had success gone?
Can anyone in trim answer"
The players who had success are retired or emigrated. Simple as that. Douglas, joyce Heffernan are all 27 and are considered the oldest of the bunch apart from carley in goals who has probably played his last time this year. Togher is still 23-24.. there is very little if not no experience to call on from the bench.

I honestly don't think there is anyone else in trim that could take the job and do better. It needs to be an outsider. Clancy was never going to work.

That said They were not good enough and Kilyon bet them twice. Cream rises to the top

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 651 - 11/10/2016 07:50:06    1924744

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Replying To umpireview:  "Some harsh statements but some true ones all the same
Trim do rely heavily on togher and Douglas but name a team that doesn't rely on county stars
Trims biggest problem is that others fail to step up when needed like yesterday and they are limited with what's coming trough the ranks
One major cause for concern is their fittness is rock bottom as mentioned in previous post with regards some players they are very slow
With regards management I have said in previous post the same for the last 10 years at least , is there nobody else in trim who would take it ?
Where have all the players who had success gone?
Can anyone in trim answer"
Dont agree what your saying about Toher. He is 1 of the best players in meath. Keoghan missed frees too all year actually. and nothing said.
Trim have great underage talent and they have a young senior team also so they will no doubt win a county in a few years.
Kiltale Trim and Killyon will dominate senior hurling for the next 10 years.
Kilmessan and Kildalkey, and maybe dunboyne also to a certain extent, have rebuilding to do.

overthehill72 (Meath) - Posts: 334 - 11/10/2016 08:57:58    1924754

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Replying To Irish_downunder:  "The players who had success are retired or emigrated. Simple as that. Douglas, joyce Heffernan are all 27 and are considered the oldest of the bunch apart from carley in goals who has probably played his last time this year. Togher is still 23-24.. there is very little if not no experience to call on from the bench.

I honestly don't think there is anyone else in trim that could take the job and do better. It needs to be an outsider. Clancy was never going to work.

That said They were not good enough and Kilyon bet them twice. Cream rises to the top"
There are a few of the retired players still involved in the club and they are involved in the underage which is quite strong in the club. I do agree that someone from the outside is probably needed but this hasn't always worked in the past. There are one or two ex players that I can think of that would be worth approaching.

As a general point regarding Trim and I am no expert but some sort of a fitness / strength & conditioning coach covering the intermediate footballers and senior hurlers would be just as useful as they were caught in the physical and fitness stakes against Dunderry & Killyon.

trim1 (Meath) - Posts: 162 - 11/10/2016 15:25:58    1924965

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Brendan Davis Cup final this Saturday should be a good game. Kildalkey and Kilmessan always have tough and uncompromising games against each other. Kildalkey will be hoping to rebound after last weeks defeat to Kiltale while Kilmessan will come in dangerous like last years league final where they beat Kiltale. Home advantage to count for Kildalkey, Kildalkey by 3pts.

Redsalltheway (Meath) - Posts: 116 - 14/10/2016 14:34:53    1926258

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will be a close game.. kildalkey to win by the minimum if they can get over the defeat of kiltale

overthehill72 (Meath) - Posts: 334 - 14/10/2016 15:17:29    1926275

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Agree with post on trim, few lads very unfit and just about getting the ball up of the ground. Killyon good hard hitting team who can play hurling and some really good hurlers. Sweeper role played very well. For me toher, has to be everywhere taking sidelines no everywhere, not one other lad saying no you jog on I'll take this, seems to me its the toher show in trim, good hurler but not and by far not the best in county. Martin Ennis needs to take him and few others down to earth again, Christy ring is over now its up with the big boys now. Killyon are not just filling out a final they will put it up to kiltale, I fancy kiltale but killyon will not fear them one bit.

mikebasset2011 (Meath) - Posts: 154 - 15/10/2016 09:57:13    1926414

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Replying To mikebasset2011:  "Agree with post on trim, few lads very unfit and just about getting the ball up of the ground. Killyon good hard hitting team who can play hurling and some really good hurlers. Sweeper role played very well. For me toher, has to be everywhere taking sidelines no everywhere, not one other lad saying no you jog on I'll take this, seems to me its the toher show in trim, good hurler but not and by far not the best in county. Martin Ennis needs to take him and few others down to earth again, Christy ring is over now its up with the big boys now. Killyon are not just filling out a final they will put it up to kiltale, I fancy kiltale but killyon will not fear them one bit."
Bit harsh, Toher's a fine player with all the attributes needed in the modern game, strong, fit and extremely skillful on the ball. There are some other fine players on the Trim side as well and while it's easy to suggest Trim only live off Toher's freetaking it''s not strictly true. They have plenty of other score takers as well but some of them seem to struggle for consistency and have gone completely AWOL in some of the games. Douglas had a fine campaign this year and on at least three occasions in the final minutes of last week's game was inches away from nabbing a goal which could have changed the whole outcome of the game.
That said, Kilyon were by far the better performers over the whole Championship and probably have more individual score takers on the field, they might just have enough to break down Kiltale but (after my previous predictions) I wouldn't bet on it but if they do go down it won't be without a fight. It's going to be one hell of a final, I'm really looking forward to this one.

Wedgie (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 15/10/2016 14:53:11    1926460

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I think the only thing that bet Trim this year was their attitude. you could hear them on the sideline mouthing. There should be a clear out of players. I agree with player fitness, it just wasnt there against KIllyon.
Dont forget they have Colm Doyle to come back next year, he could bring something to the table.
As for a manager, you will have to look at the Likes of Dec Murray or Cj Murtagh who could bring them back.
The final should be a close one, I see Kiltale edging it by 3. But they will have to overcome the sweeper which was very effective against Trim.

countyman123 (Meath) - Posts: 34 - 15/10/2016 20:22:08    1926527

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"A clear out of players"...?

How does that work...?

Wedgie (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 15/10/2016 20:50:26    1926533

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Just on the Irish team, how isn't there one or two more players from Meath hurling not on it. Can't believe burke on it again?? How's that anyone can tell me. He didn't even hurl in the Christy ring this year in which I bet he wish he did now!

mikebasset2011 (Meath) - Posts: 154 - 18/10/2016 18:00:59    1927355

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Replying To mikebasset2011:  "Just on the Irish team, how isn't there one or two more players from Meath hurling not on it. Can't believe burke on it again?? How's that anyone can tell me. He didn't even hurl in the Christy ring this year in which I bet he wish he did now!"
Its a squad of just 18, of whom only 8 are from outside the top tier of championship hurling. Meath have 3 of them. That seems more than reasonable. How many did you expect them to have on it?
I'd take your point on Mickey Burke though. Perhaps they wanted players on the panel who have experience of the game. Or maybe they wanted to frighten the life out of the Scots and figure that Mickey Burke with a stick was just what they needed.

anfearbeag (Meath) - Posts: 1134 - 18/10/2016 18:57:10    1927369

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Replying To mikebasset2011:  "Just on the Irish team, how isn't there one or two more players from Meath hurling not on it. Can't believe burke on it again?? How's that anyone can tell me. He didn't even hurl in the Christy ring this year in which I bet he wish he did now!"
Maybe because he's played on it before?
It's on next weekend which doesn't leave a lot of time to get ready if you've never played it before?
Do the team actually get together to train for this?

Wedgie (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 18/10/2016 19:01:42    1927371

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Mickey burke being picked ahead of some of the christy ring cup winners is not fair.

i see the minor final is on before the senior final on sunday.
Trim have dunderry lads playing with them. Does this happen in most underage teams in Trim?

overthehill72 (Meath) - Posts: 334 - 19/10/2016 10:37:29    1927481

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Replying To overthehill72:  "Mickey burke being picked ahead of some of the christy ring cup winners is not fair.

i see the minor final is on before the senior final on sunday.
Trim have dunderry lads playing with them. Does this happen in most underage teams in Trim?"
Why would Trim have Dunderry lads playing with them?
Don't Dunderry have an underage Hurling set up of their own?

Wedgie (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 19/10/2016 10:46:34    1927485

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Very unfair on other lads on the meath panel being ignored for the shinty.
Was there trials?
Mickey seems to be on this every year so its probably a case of who ya know.

Foley91 (Meath) - Posts: 418 - 19/10/2016 11:08:09    1927492

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Replying To Wedgie:  "Why would Trim have Dunderry lads playing with them?
Don't Dunderry have an underage Hurling set up of their own?"
Dunderry had no minor team this year so the two lads playing with Trim were given a transfer for the year so they could keep playing.

upthelads (Meath) - Posts: 6 - 19/10/2016 11:15:11    1927496

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Replying To upthelads:  "Dunderry had no minor team this year so the two lads playing with Trim were given a transfer for the year so they could keep playing."
Its not fair that Trim can poach players in my opinion. Why did they go to Trim rather than Navan or Athboy.
Na Fianna would have won only for this.

overthehill72 (Meath) - Posts: 334 - 19/10/2016 12:51:46    1927543

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Let's get a few things straight. 1. To qualify as a player for either senior or u21 shinty you have to go to trials held in two or three different dates. Mickey Burke has obviously attended these sessions therefore has made the squad same with the other Meath players. It's not a case of who you know. 2. One dunderry lad playing for trim is a result of dunderry not haveing a team. Trim did not poach as one player does not catapult a team to a final. An fianna have t qualified for the final because they where bet by trim and anyone who was at the game will tell you that it was a pulsating game. Full of high intensity battles throughout the pitch. Man for man. An fianna where good enough to beat trim but trim battled well and won on merit in the day. It's very unfair to say that trim poach players when clearly they haven't and never have. No point throwing accusations out there that factually don't make any sense.

lordofthecrack (Meath) - Posts: 43 - 19/10/2016 13:14:49    1927559

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