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Replying To begining:  "Round 2
Kiltale v Dunboyne: Could be closer than people think. Dunboyne should be really up for this one, great chance to catch kiltale on the hop. If Kiltale play to their potential only one winner though.
Dunderry v Blackhall: Irrelevant
Boardsmill v Clann na nGael: Irrelevant
Kilmessan v Longwood: Kilmessan will have enough to win this. Longwood showing signs of getting back to their 2013 form with great first round win performance v a strong Kilyon side. Lynch and Anthony Healey are two big losses. If they can be in contention come knockouts and get them two back they could have a big say this year.
Kildalkey v Killyon: Must win for Kilyon. makings of a great game. never much in it when these two meet. Kildalkey by 2.
Trim v Navan O'Mahonys: trim need to get the finger out. Nothing but a convincing win will do."
Begining UK, I love the way you dismiss Dunderry v. Blackhall and Boardsmill v. CnaG as irrelevant. To all of these weaker teams, consolidating themselves as a senior team is of the utmost relevance, especially when (some) of these clubs are putting in serious effort at underage level. CnaG won a minor and u21 last year, and Dunderry have very talented underage teams from u-12 to u-17, beating kiltale on a near regular basis at this stage. There's a great core of coaches in dunderry at the moment mad keen to ensure the club isn't always seen as a purely football club in 6-10 years time, and thus it is absolutely massive that the club is senior when this new batch come through, so to label these games as irrelevant is just pure ignorance and shows your narrow-minded understanding of the GAA . I normally don't bother commenting on these forums, as the majority of posters have blatantly never played (or coached) the game, but I thought your very foolish swipe at the "weaker" clubs needed to be highlighted. Also, Dunderry are (perhaps Longwood aside) the most competitive dual rural club in the county, containing a core group of about 15 dual players who are extremely proud to represent their parish in both codes and would undoubtedly be very offended by your above comments.

#DUNDOIREABU

sam1996 (Meath) - Posts: 436 - 13/07/2016 11:38:49    1882422

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Replying To hurlit:  "how are dunderry the most competitive rural dual club? or even close?
have you forgot moynalvey / kiltale? by far the most competitive dual club
since when was competitive been beating by 30 points in hurling and been stuck in intermediate football ?
its great underage work is been done but that does not give you a right to be a senior club untill these kids arrive

needs to be 4 teams removed from the senior grade asap oe at least 2, 1 group of 8 teams would improve the standard no end
its going on too long now, really awfull teams getting beat by 30 points is no good for anybody
or if people insist on leaving it the same then seed the draw
makes no sense have such unfair groups"
Name any other clubs, with a parish as small as dunderry's, that are as competitive? Moynalvey/kiltale aren't a dual club as they are two separate clubs, one plays hurling, the other football. Also, kiltale have lads from summerhill playing hurling for them who should be playing for rathmoloyn, as well as a few transfers in recent years.

sam1996 (Meath) - Posts: 436 - 13/07/2016 11:48:15    1882431

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Replying To begining:  "I acknowledge that said clubs are making great strides at underage, however, in the context of the Meath SHC and who will win the championship this year, them fixtures are sadly irrelevant. There are probably only 4 or 5 teams that can win the championship and 1 team that will.

I remember Dunderry in the county final in 01 and it was a great time for the parish. Kiltale were fighting relegation them years, kildalkey were at nothing them times too. Trim and Kilmessan dominated, kilmessan couldn't get out of the group last year, Trim haven't won since they were handed the cup by default. Good teams and good times don't last forever, I wasn't having an attack on Dunderry, CnaG, Boardsmill or Blackhall, I was just calling a spade a spade, their time will come again, just not this year, but hopefully in the near future."
Trim beat Dunderry in that final in 2001, I remember being at it. It's the 2000 championship you're thinking of where Trim got a walkover. They seemed to fall off the edge of a cliff after that though.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1677 - 13/07/2016 11:54:33    1882435

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Replying To CastleBravo:  "Trim beat Dunderry in that final in 2001, I remember being at it. It's the 2000 championship you're thinking of where Trim got a walkover. They seemed to fall off the edge of a cliff after that though."
You are correct castlebravo it was 2000
We had players on holidays and asked for refit ure as far as I remember trim were not to happy about the way it was sorted either
They gave us a hammering in the semi the following year I think by 13 points

umpireview (Meath) - Posts: 55 - 13/07/2016 14:09:20    1882525

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Replying To sam1996:  "Name any other clubs, with a parish as small as dunderry's, that are as competitive? Moynalvey/kiltale aren't a dual club as they are two separate clubs, one plays hurling, the other football. Also, kiltale have lads from summerhill playing hurling for them who should be playing for rathmoloyn, as well as a few transfers in recent years."
A small rural parish? Dunderry have a massive pull, they stretch as far as Kilmessan, out to Navan, then back around to Athboy, wrapping back around to Kildalkey, Trim and the Robinstown, it is nearly three times the size of Drumree, or twice the size of the Trim parish. Nevertheless, it is never about how big your parish is, it is about the quality produced.

cashelard (Meath) - Posts: 46 - 13/07/2016 16:11:44    1882628

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Replying To cashelard:  "A small rural parish? Dunderry have a massive pull, they stretch as far as Kilmessan, out to Navan, then back around to Athboy, wrapping back around to Kildalkey, Trim and the Robinstown, it is nearly three times the size of Drumree, or twice the size of the Trim parish. Nevertheless, it is never about how big your parish is, it is about the quality produced."
have to agree here dunderry is a big enough parish id say twice the size of kilmessan/dunsany and kiltale/moynalvey

srgt_slaughter (Meath) - Posts: 462 - 13/07/2016 16:45:10    1882647

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Replying To sam1996:  "Name any other clubs, with a parish as small as dunderry's, that are as competitive? Moynalvey/kiltale aren't a dual club as they are two separate clubs, one plays hurling, the other football. Also, kiltale have lads from summerhill playing hurling for them who should be playing for rathmoloyn, as well as a few transfers in recent years."
Kiltale, kilmessan, Kilyon and kildalkey are not dual clubs, but there is a lot of dual players with each of those teams. I'd say at least 12 or 13 lads from each of those teams play first team football with their Moynalvey/Summerhill, Dunsany/Skryne, Balivor/Clonard etc.

Wouldn't agree that Kiltales success is down to having summerhill lads. The underage structure in the club is the benchmark for us all. Having numbers is one thing but coaching them into hurlers is the hard done and fair play to them for that.

begining (UK) - Posts: 320 - 14/07/2016 09:11:54    1882909

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Replying To sam1996:  "Begining UK, I love the way you dismiss Dunderry v. Blackhall and Boardsmill v. CnaG as irrelevant. To all of these weaker teams, consolidating themselves as a senior team is of the utmost relevance, especially when (some) of these clubs are putting in serious effort at underage level. CnaG won a minor and u21 last year, and Dunderry have very talented underage teams from u-12 to u-17, beating kiltale on a near regular basis at this stage. There's a great core of coaches in dunderry at the moment mad keen to ensure the club isn't always seen as a purely football club in 6-10 years time, and thus it is absolutely massive that the club is senior when this new batch come through, so to label these games as irrelevant is just pure ignorance and shows your narrow-minded understanding of the GAA . I normally don't bother commenting on these forums, as the majority of posters have blatantly never played (or coached) the game, but I thought your very foolish swipe at the "weaker" clubs needed to be highlighted. Also, Dunderry are (perhaps Longwood aside) the most competitive dual rural club in the county, containing a core group of about 15 dual players who are extremely proud to represent their parish in both codes and would undoubtedly be very offended by your above comments.

#DUNDOIREABU"
Round 2
Kiltale v Dunboyne: Kiltale by 5 or 6, cant see Dunboyne been able to deal with kiltale scoring power
Dunderry v Blackhall: Both teams will need to improve from their first round games, Dunderry will keep it tight and physical but Blackhall will have enough to win out
Athboy v Boardsmill: Again both teams will need to improve from first day, Athboy were a lot closer to Blackhall than people expected the first day and should have at least came away with a point. I think this game will be as tight but Boardsmill could sneak it.
Kilmessan v Longwood: Kilmessan on a bit of a roll and should win this by 5 or 6
Kildalkey v Killyon: Easy win for kildalkey, Killyon are a team going backwards
Trim v Navan O'Mahonys: Trim will need to improve a lot from the first day but I think this is the ideal game for them to get back into winning ways

toon (Meath) - Posts: 247 - 15/07/2016 14:33:15    1883865

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round 3 predictions

Killyon Kilmessan - Kilmessan by 4
Kildalkey Navan - Kildalkey by 8
Trim Longwood - Trim by 7

Kiltale Boardsmill - Kiltale by 20
Dunderry Clann Na NGael - Dunderry by 4
Blackhall v Dunboyne - Blackhall by 1

overthehill72 (Meath) - Posts: 334 - 19/07/2016 14:32:54    1886341

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RD 3

Killyon vs Kilmessan - Kilmessan by 2
Kildalkey Navan - Kildalkey by 12
Trim Longwood - DRAW

Kiltale Boardsmill - Kiltale by 16 pulling up
Dunderry Clann Na NGael - Dunderry by 2
Blackhall v Dunboyne - Dunboyne by 8

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 651 - 19/07/2016 15:11:29    1886388

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Athbo v Dunderry - Athboy by 5

GREGADETH (Meath) - Posts: 7 - 19/07/2016 23:53:11    1886761

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Round 3 predictions

Killyon v Kilmessan - Kilmessan
Kildalkey v Navan - Kildalkey
Trim v Longwood - Longwood

Kiltale v Boardsmill - Kiltale
Dunderry v Clann Na NGael - Draw
Blackhall v Dunboyne - Dunboyne

RedMeath12 (Meath) - Posts: 117 - 20/07/2016 08:20:25    1886789

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Round 3 predictions

Killyon v Kilmessan - Killyon by 3 (Kilmessan have a few suspended and Killyon have improved since opening match)
Kildalkey v Navan - Kildalkey easily.
Trim v Longwood - Draw

Kiltale v Boardsmill - Kiltale
Dunderry v Clann Na NGael - Draw
Blackhall v Dunboyne - Dunboyne

Foley91 (Meath) - Posts: 418 - 20/07/2016 13:10:29    1886945

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Booooooooooom.

Foley91 (Meath) - Posts: 418 - 24/07/2016 02:18:48    1888938

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Booooooom.....

Wedgie (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 24/07/2016 18:44:14    1889293

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Statement made.. goals win games ha ha

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 651 - 24/07/2016 18:54:02    1889296

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Trim are going to win the jubilee.... Nawt seriously trim won against a extremely depleted Longwood team who if they had a full team would be competing with kiltale..trim won't do anything this year..kildalkey are are also to predictable now with ducksy out..

passionhurler (Galway) - Posts: 1 - 25/07/2016 00:28:36    1889469

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Kiltale showing why they are champions and taking no prisoners against the mill. Must have seen Trim's result and decided to eclipse it.

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 651 - 25/07/2016 08:42:44    1889495

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Just shows the importance of Damo Healey to Longwood. Trim not going well and racking up 7-21 shows a big statement of intent. Going to be a close in Group A.

Kiltale proving all too strong in the other group. Hard to tell if it's Kiltale going well or the other teams are that poor, Boardmill beat Kilmessan last year and Dunboyne have made the semi finals regularly the last 10 years so they should be putting up some resistance to Kiltale but both games were over after 10 minutes. Them easy games won't do them any favors come October. Blackhall providing the shock of the championship so far.

2nd and 3rd in goup A won't fear a quarter final against the runners up in group B. Predictable enough championship so far.

begining (UK) - Posts: 320 - 25/07/2016 09:41:47    1889519

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There are 12 teams in the Meath senior hurling championship. In Westmeath there are 8. Westmeath hurling is at a higher level than Meath at the moment but imo there is just as much potential here.

We need to move to a senior championship in which most of the games are meaningful and we should look very seriously at having a system like westmeath in which most of the games are reasonably competitive and the top team automatically qualifies for the final with 2nd & 3rd qualifying for a semi.

In Meath the make up based on current standings would be Kildalkey, Trim, Kilmessan, Killyon, Kiltale, Blackhall Gaels, Dunboyne and Boardsmill. Longwood are good enough to be in that group but after that I think the other teams are intermediate level. All teams to play each other and a 2 up 2 down system would make for very competitive games.

Just because the football side have thrown the baby out with the bathwater doesnt mean that the hurling side cannot look at the structure which needs changing, especially proven by tyhe hammerings at the weekend.

oldsam_newsam (Meath) - Posts: 638 - 25/07/2016 10:26:17    1889547

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