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Does GAA get fair coverage compared to soccer and rugby

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1,000th post on this thread!!!!!! Bain (Donegal) - Posts: 470 - 10/06/2016 21:13:54 1865014 Link
Quote: 'Who knows, maybe rte website is the best indicator of what rte tv should be showing more or less of in sport? extranjero) (Wexford). That comment makes little sense. Compare the coverage of soccer /rubgy with the amount of folk to attend matches and compare the amount of folk who attend GAA football and hurling matches and the ratio would be in orders of 1: 20 plus. We do not get 20 times the coverage. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 10/06/2016 21:29:09 1865016 Link
On May 18th RTE 6.01 News and Sport previewed Tyrone and Derry in the USFC with some ancient VT of Derry/Tyrone players throwing a few punches at each other. On May 27th as part of their preview of Cavan and Armagh in the USFC again they (RTE) showed some old VT of a side line confrontation from the last championship meeting of these sides. Presumably this was designed to those the great rivalry of these meetings. Tonight June 10th RTE previewed tomorrow's Rugby Union meeting of Ireland and South Africa. Strangely they did not show VT of the great rivalry between these two as illustrated by the most famous meeting of these two sides - the Ireland South Africa Battle of Pretoria in 1998 when the sides indulged in far more violence than in the other two matches combined. Once again football gets negative treatment from the 6.01 News and Sport and Rugby Union has its image protected. All we're asking for is fair play. mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 10/06/2016 22:18:47 1865044 Link
most people slating mediaman often fail to make legitimate points alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 10/06/2016 22:41:49 1865050 Link
happens due to major tournaments..mad for bit of controversy..look at how much is been made of each thing roy keane says..imagine what it was like back in 2002! alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 10/06/2016 22:42:56 1865051 Link
Replying To alano12: "most people slating mediaman often fail to make legitimate points" Be more specific. Mediaman makes no legitimate points at all. Moves his 'factual data' update criteria each post. Says he has now split GAA into football and hurling for 12 months. Obviously each will have less coverage than total GAA coverage so it adds his downtrodden and oppressed GAA agenda. I wouldn't dispute that media have a biased towards rugby over GAA but it's long past time he does something about it rather than this online circus of a thread. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8115 - 11/06/2016 11:11:02 1865093 Link
Replying To browncows: "Quote: 'Who knows, maybe rte website is the best indicator of what rte tv should be showing more or less of in sport? extranjero) (Wexford). That comment makes little sense. Compare the coverage of soccer /rubgy with the amount of folk to attend matches and compare the amount of folk who attend GAA football and hurling matches and the ratio would be in orders of 1: 20 plus. We do not get 20 times the coverage." I'm not talking about attendance levels though (and I'd seriously doubt your 20:1 ratio, where'd you get that number from?) What I'm saying is, according to the RTE website (going by mediamans statistics), the most popular sports stories are soccer. I'm not saying thats right or wrong, but if twice as many click on a soccer story as GAA or rugby, what can RTE do? extranjero (Wexford) - Posts: 375 - 11/06/2016 12:40:27 1865108 Link
look at extrajeros post only a minute ago for instance?...mediama is providing facts and data..to dispute that the coverage is negative or biased at this stage is just baffling alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 11/06/2016 12:58:15 1865112 Link
What I'm saying is, according to the RTE website (going by mediamans statistics), the most popular sports stories are soccer. I'm not saying thats right or wrong, but if twice as many click on a soccer story as GAA or rugby, what can RTE do? extranjero (Wexford) All it tells me is that most of their supporters may be sitting around clicking buttons when they should working like the rest of us! browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 11/06/2016 14:00:41 1865129 Link
Replying To alano12: "look at extrajeros post only a minute ago for instance?...mediama is providing facts and data..to dispute that the coverage is negative or biased at this stage is just baffling" He's nearly two years providing 'data'. What's he going to do with the 'data' ? I'm asking you because he won't answer any questions, probably because he's exhausted from all his time compiling such 'data'. Who else is he posting as ? GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8115 - 11/06/2016 14:42:58 1865136 Link
'Who knows, maybe rte website is the best indicator of what rte tv should be showing more or less of in sport? extranjero) (Wexford). That comment makes little sense. Compare the coverage of soccer /rubgy with the amount of folk to attend matches and compare the amount of folk who attend GAA football and hurling matches and the ratio would be in orders of 1: 20 plus. We do not get 20 times the coverage. browncows (Meath) - Posts:979 - 10/06/2016 21:29:09 The people who attend games isn't the decider on what coverage a team gets. That isn't how things work. Rugby and Soccer are fully professional and players and caches are available for media work significantly more than GAA players so these sports will always get significantly more coverage. most people slating mediaman often fail to make legitimate points alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:39 - 10/06/2016 22:41:49 What is a legitimate point then? Be more specific. Mediaman makes no legitimate points at all. Moves his 'factual data' update criteria each post. Says he has now split GAA into football and hurling for 12 months. Obviously each will have less coverage than total GAA coverage so it adds his downtrodden and oppressed GAA agenda. I wouldn't dispute that media have a biased towards rugby over GAA but it's long past time he does something about it rather than this online circus of a thread. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts:2438 - 11/06/2016 11:11:02 Why is the media biased towards rugby? Rugby gets significant coverage as its the biggest domestic pro team sport in the country. ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 11/06/2016 15:51:20 1865153 Link
this point has already been disproven..0 issues with availability when rte needed to cover a negative story for meath hurlers which is way down the gaa ranks in terms of levels...its the only domestic pro sport in the country is it not?..its still a lot smaller than the gaa and the coverage should reflect this alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 11/06/2016 20:20:27 1865246 Link
On a point of information (or rather two points of information). 1. The RTE Sport website stats are calculated, as regular readers will know, by a daily 10 pm snapshot of the home page stories available at that time. They are not based on popularity. The idea is to see what stories the RTE web journalists offer us or want to read, their bias as some might describe it. 2. Clearly it is unfair to lump all football and hurling stats in together. That's obvious. Different sports deserve separate analysis. This is what will happen over the next 12 months. Why anyone should feel threatened by that I don't know. If the stats show no anti-GAA bias on our national broadcaster's main daily News and Sport so be it. What's there to be afraid of? The truth maybe. mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 11/06/2016 20:31:30 1865259 Link
Replying To ormondbannerman: "'Who knows, maybe rte website is the best indicator of what rte tv should be showing more or less of in sport? extranjero) (Wexford). That comment makes little sense. Compare the coverage of soccer /rubgy with the amount of folk to attend matches and compare the amount of folk who attend GAA football and hurling matches and the ratio would be in orders of 1: 20 plus. We do not get 20 times the coverage. browncows (Meath) - Posts:979 - 10/06/2016 21:29:09 The people who attend games isn't the decider on what coverage a team gets. That isn't how things work. Rugby and Soccer are fully professional and players and caches are available for media work significantly more than GAA players so these sports will always get significantly more coverage. most people slating mediaman often fail to make legitimate points alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:39 - 10/06/2016 22:41:49 What is a legitimate point then? Be more specific. Mediaman makes no legitimate points at all. Moves his 'factual data' update criteria each post. Says he has now split GAA into football and hurling for 12 months. Obviously each will have less coverage than total GAA coverage so it adds his downtrodden and oppressed GAA agenda. I wouldn't dispute that media have a biased towards rugby over GAA but it's long past time he does something about it rather than this online circus of a thread. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts:2438 - 11/06/2016 11:11:02 Why is the media biased towards rugby? Rugby gets significant coverage as its the biggest domestic pro team sport in the country." It's the only full-time professional team sport in the country. That doesn't make it more popular, participation-wise, than GAA sports. But regardless of participation RTE are surely looking at potential listener and viewer figures rather than number of participants. Be it soccer, rugby, boxing, horseracing, GAA, whatever, but for provincial finals, All Ireland semis and finals and a few other GAA clashes how many people wiĺl watch games not involving our own county over some of the other sports. Hoganstand posters probably all would but we're a percent of a percent of RTE's potential viewing audience. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8115 - 11/06/2016 21:14:30 1865274 Link
Replying To mediaman: "On a point of information (or rather two points of information). 1. The RTE Sport website stats are calculated, as regular readers will know, by a daily 10 pm snapshot of the home page stories available at that time. They are not based on popularity. The idea is to see what stories the RTE web journalists offer us or want to read, their bias as some might describe it. 2. Clearly it is unfair to lump all football and hurling stats in together. That's obvious. Different sports deserve separate analysis. This is what will happen over the next 12 months. Why anyone should feel threatened by that I don't know. If the stats show no anti-GAA bias on our national broadcaster's main daily News and Sport so be it. What's there to be afraid of? The truth maybe." So: 1. If the rte.ie/sport page was full of GAA stories at 21:30 and at 22:00 had more soccer and rugby than GAA stories that would be an accurate barometer of how RTE journalists are biased against the GAA? You only mention the website if 6:01 or 9 o'clock news has been pro-GAA and you never post a URL. 2. You admit that you've been unfair up until now putting hurling and football together under a GAA category V rugby V soccer V other sports. But for someone that claims to be very concerned about anti-GAA bias you never post about hurling or football matters? So very concerned about it that all you'll do to change it is post dubious nauseous staristics and represent them as fact. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8115 - 11/06/2016 21:37:58 1865284 Link
The most watched Sports programme on RTE in 2015. The All-Ireland Footbal Final - Dublin v Kerry - watched by 881,600 viewers. The most watched Rugby Union programme on RTE in 2015. The 6 Nations - Ireland v England - watched by 760,300 viewers. So the top amateur sports programme on RTE was watched by 121,300 more viewers than the top professional sports programme on RTE. mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 11/06/2016 21:40:07 1865285 Link
Replying To mediaman: "The most watched Sports programme on RTE in 2015. The All-Ireland Footbal Final - Dublin v Kerry - watched by 881,600 viewers. The most watched Rugby Union programme on RTE in 2015. The 6 Nations - Ireland v England - watched by 760,300 viewers. So the top amateur sports programme on RTE was watched by 121,300 more viewers than the top professional sports programme on RTE." So that two game comparison proves there is an anti GAA bias on RTE ? On what channel were those All Ireland figures for? Soccer would be the most-viewed professional sport, is it not. Not played though as home is a part-time league, most Ireland players play across the water. What about my reply to your previous post? GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8115 - 11/06/2016 22:00:46 1865291 Link
in general gaa is simply more popular and deserves better coverage..gaelic football especially...all the sports have their place but it is pretty lopsided against the gaa in terms of the coverage and the tone of the coverage especially which is extremely negative..soccer we are usually negative bar when we quality for a tournament..in rugby its all positive....the money involved and sponsors probably a big issue for the extra coverage they receive alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 11/06/2016 22:16:44 1865300 Link
i would argue soccer is the biggest professional sport in ireland yes by a distance just our players play abroad alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 11/06/2016 22:37:40 1865309 Link
Replying To alano12: "i would argue soccer is the biggest professional sport in ireland yes by a distance just our players play abroad" I kinda agree and disagree. The home players are part-timers who will go abroad if they're good enough to try going pro. But the national team who play at home are pro. Soccer though is much more popular across the nation than rugby. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8115 - 11/06/2016 22:54:27 1865316 Link