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Does GAA get fair coverage compared to soccer and rugby

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Replying To mediaman:  "One of the arguments often put forward on this thread to defend the lack of fairness on RTE's 6.01 News and Sport is that RTE cannot be expected to find amateur sportspeople/volunteers available for interview for their midweek programmes. No problem today when they sent a reporter out to Navan to record interviews in relation to the Christy Ring Cup Final. And no problem a few weeks ago when they sent a reporter out to Longford to record an interview in relation to that county's problems with team preparations for the LSFC. The common theme? Both were negative items both highlighting problems in hurling and football.

You can be sure of one thing, had Meath's win (which would have been huge for their hurling development) been completely uncontroversial RTE would most definitely not have sent a reporter out to Navan to do a good news story about their achievement in qualifying for next year's LSHC."
Yeah because news programmes are always full of good news stories.

jimski (Kildare) - Posts: 381 - 09/06/2016 09:04:54    1864007

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "How can you be sure of that ? I'm amazed you haven't complained about all the positive media coverage Connacht are getting since their historic win."
Well Meaths achievement can be compared to what Kerry achieved last year - a county known mainly for their footballers managing to 'win' the Christy Ring and gain entry to the following years Leinster round-robin. Did RTE go to Kerry last year to interview representatives from the hurling team? And he does make a good point that when negative news stories are covered they do manage to find someone to interview.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 09/06/2016 11:33:58    1864104

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Replying To extranjero:  "Now I'm not 100% on this, but can't websites count the number of hits on a given page/story, thereby allowing them to tailor their output to suit the demand?
So, for example, if GAA articles get an average 10,000 hits per article, but soccer gets 50,000, then they're surely going to have more soccer articles to maximise advertising revenue. Just a thought."
True enough but we're not talking about the RTE website here. Plus RTE is not solely operating as a commercial entity here, hence the TV license fee. It's a public service broadcaster.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 09/06/2016 11:59:20    1864127

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Replying To jimski:  "Yeah because news programmes are always full of good news stories."
Plenty of good news stories in Sports.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 09/06/2016 12:00:25    1864128

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soma and mediaman - do rte ever do anything right by gaa , ok you are right that if the meath win was uncontroversial there would be nothing about it , but then again we wouldnt be thinking about it, this website would have a lot less coverage of it. -be the same in euro 2016 if there is an incident in a game it will get more coverage than an incident free game

if ye are going to crib and moan when they do something wrong you could at least be consistent when they do right ,e.g. two live matches shown this weekend, six one news had preview of clare v waterford, sunday sport had blanket radio coverage on sunday , was any of this good.

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 09/06/2016 12:08:25    1864138

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Replying To janesboro:  "soma and mediaman - do rte ever do anything right by gaa , ok you are right that if the meath win was uncontroversial there would be nothing about it , but then again we wouldnt be thinking about it, this website would have a lot less coverage of it. -be the same in euro 2016 if there is an incident in a game it will get more coverage than an incident free game

if ye are going to crib and moan when they do something wrong you could at least be consistent when they do right ,e.g. two live matches shown this weekend, six one news had preview of clare v waterford, sunday sport had blanket radio coverage on sunday , was any of this good."
Of course they do Janesboro. I have said many times on here that RTE Sunday sport on the radio gives excellent gaa coverage throughout the year (though the Marty Squad piece is in my opinion dreadful) and I am one of what appears to be a small number on here who far prefers their live match programme to what Sky and BBC do. But I think it is unreasonable for you to expect anyone to come on here after every gaa piece on radio and tv and praise RTE for covering the country's national games. Many posters say that GAA coverage is less because professional sports teams are more accessible, but as he has pointed out when there is a negative story it does get thoroughly covered. There are many great stories throughout the country that reflect well on the people and gives an insight into local community life but the focus does seem to be more on the negative. When mediaman first started highlighting the difference in coverage between sports he was told that he was wrong - now he has kept a 12 month record and has been proven to be right. I'm curious as to what mediaman eventually proposes to do with all his collected data but am even more curious as to why some posters just come into this thread to abuse him.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 09/06/2016 12:31:23    1864168

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Radio 1 Sunday Sport gives great GAA coverage, in fairness.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 09/06/2016 12:50:24    1864191

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Plenty of good news stories in Sports.
keeper7 (Longford) - Posts:2938 - 09/06/2016 12:00:25 1864128

following limerick i wonder at times, bet you the same re your beloved longford!!

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 09/06/2016 12:59:36    1864202

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soma But I think it is unreasonable for you to expect anyone to come on here after every gaa piece on radio and tv and praise RTE for covering the country's national games.
Well i think its reasonable to expect those who constantly give out about rte and say thinks like
. This evening's effort was a particularly blatant attack on our game. May 27thOR
 RTE TV News goes out of its way to damage the image of our games. A classic example of biased reporting. I rest my case. On 28 february
That when RTE do right by gaa then in the interest of consistency they should mention same.

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 09/06/2016 15:54:23    1864324

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Janesboro I thought I better try get in here with this before anyone else. Tremendous to see that RTE will be showing both senior camogie semifinals and the final this year. A real boost to womens sport as well as the players involved. The press release suggests the camogie association and their sponsors are partly funding this which is a little disappointing but a very positive story overall, well done all including RTE. Maybe Ryle Nugent is an avid reader of mediaman's work!?!

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 09/06/2016 18:19:43    1864404

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Replying To keeper7:  "True enough but we're not talking about the RTE website here. Plus RTE is not solely operating as a commercial entity here, hence the TV license fee. It's a public service broadcaster."
I was replying to mediamans statistics on the top 20 sports stories on the rte website, so in this case I think my comment was relevant.

Something else I didn't think of earlier, if the stats are based on the top 20 sports stories that day, then wouldn't they be in the top 20 on the basis that more people have clicked on that specific story/sport?
So say there's 60 sports stories on a given day on the website, 15 soccer, 15 GAA, 15 rugby and 15 from other sports. If at the end of the day 10 of the top 20 ranked stories are soccer and only 3 GAA, well then it's hardly the fault of rte if more people are clicking on more soccer than others.
Who knows, maybe rte website is the best indicator of what rte tv should be showing more or less of in sport?

extranjero (Wexford) - Posts: 375 - 09/06/2016 20:29:25    1864458

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id doubt that....the gaa viewing figures league and championship speak for themselves....the lack of quality coverage provided by rte television is quite sad....i taped skys coverage of our match last week....senan bit out of his depth compared to mcguinness especially..would love to see him on rte...brolly seems to be going further and further down the dunphy/hook route despite being the most capable analyst on the programme

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 09/06/2016 21:31:36    1864475

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The Kilkenny team to play Dublin on Saturday was announced earlier today. Shane Prendergast, Richie Hogan & Michael Rice not in the match day 26. Not newsworthy to RTE News & Sport?

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 09/06/2016 21:35:49    1864479

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'our combinations' for the springbok tour is far more interesting keeper

A major negative with gaa media coverage in general is there is so little appetite for reasoned analysis

Hysteria and negativity is preferred

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 09/06/2016 21:42:46    1864485

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Or the Irish soccer team leisurely strolling around a training pitch in Abbottstown, Cork or France.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 09/06/2016 22:16:06    1864502

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Probably a little off topic but I absolutely hate the fact half the games are only exclusive to sky these days. This topic is ranted enough about but I think it's very unfair on the likes of elderly gents and gentlemen who don't have sky sports and cannot travel and live in rural areas. These people are some of the core fans of GAA . It's grand from young ones and everybody else who can go to the pub to watch it but it's just sad some people miss out on our sport because the GAA are so greedy it's on exclusively an English TV channel , sad really.

The argument can be made against this for those abroad but realistically you can get stream it on many sites and it's possible to get rte matches exclusive anyway abroad for a price .Rant over

BarryPD (Dublin) - Posts: 34 - 09/06/2016 22:45:28    1864512

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What about RTE listeners/viewers who like GAA and other sports and not exclusively just hurling and/or gaelic football. Many of those living in Ireland are non-natives. Many just listeners or viewers of various sports in their spare time and not members of any clubs nor even go to live matches. What is the factual breakdown of the numbers of people falling into either category?

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8114 - 09/06/2016 23:20:22    1864525

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to be fair keeper its a major tournament so i can understand the over the top coverage for that...find meself getting a bit excited even....basic summer money making rugby tours and over analysis on them certainly isnt the same thing...for the world cup i would understand

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 10/06/2016 00:09:47    1864534

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soma - great the camogie semis are on tv -tis a great sport to watch
if its the case the sponsors are part funding it - well lokk you gotta do what you gotta do

Hoping for extra half hour on sunday game now - to show bit more of weaker counties - felt bad for limerick footballers few weeks back -they were in bits leaving field after clare game - gave it everything - and then just a few mins in report format on sunday game , wouldnt entice you to play for your county team

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 10/06/2016 09:46:42    1864589

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Replying To alano12:  "to be fair keeper its a major tournament so i can understand the over the top coverage for that...find meself getting a bit excited even....basic summer money making rugby tours and over analysis on them certainly isnt the same thing...for the world cup i would understand"
Daily reports about Robbie Keane playing hurling or riding a bicycle in Cork. Almost no other coverage of any other sport on RTE New & Sport. Their first match isn't til Monday. There's a whole weekend of sport happening before that!

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 10/06/2016 13:30:06    1864804

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