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1. Soccer & Rugby are professional sports. Managers, staff, players are available to do media work during the work. It would be unfair to expect GAA players to do the same. 2. Soccer & Rugby have national teams. They will get more coverage. bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4653 - 01/06/2016 10:03:28 1860431 Link
Replying To mediaman: "The Sport's bulletin on this evening's 6.01 News and Sport lasted nearly 7 minutes devoted to just 2 sports. You guessed it. Soccer (understandable given tonight's match) and Rugby Union (despite the fact that the season ended on Saturday last). This is only the third time this year that RTE's 6.01 Sport has been restricted to just 2 sports (February 10th and March 1st the others) and of course Soccer and Rugby Union were the 2 featured sports on those occasions as well. And remember there are 3 senior championship matches this weekend. All 3 have been ignored so far this week by our National Television station while it has already begun previewing some Rugby Union challenge matches that are weeks away. Parity of esteem?" The rugby season hasn't ended though. There is still 3 full senior internationals as well as the Ireland under 20s world championships and both the mens and womens 7s teams attempts to qualify for the Rio Olympics. To dismiss the 3 tests against south Africa as mere "challenge matches" shows you don't know much about rugby ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 01/06/2016 13:09:45 1860499 Link
Replying To ormondbannerman: "The rugby season hasn't ended though. There is still 3 full senior internationals as well as the Ireland under 20s world championships and both the mens and womens 7s teams attempts to qualify for the Rio Olympics. To dismiss the 3 tests against south Africa as mere "challenge matches" shows you don't know much about rugby" What competition are they part of? What trophy is up for grabs? benched (Tyrone) - Posts: 534 - 01/06/2016 13:53:19 1860523 Link
Replying To bad.monkey: "1. Soccer & Rugby are professional sports. Managers, staff, players are available to do media work during the work. It would be unfair to expect GAA players to do the same. 2. Soccer & Rugby have national teams. They will get more coverage." Extract from Malachy Clerkin article in Irish Times last Saturday week 52: intercounty The intercounty game grows more and more remote from its people every year. One team closes off its training sessions, others follow suit. One team shuts down engagement with the press, the rest aren't far behind. 53: media blackout Media access to county teams now is the worst its ever been. Which wouldn't matter in the slightest except it means that public access to county teams is the worst its ever been. Outside of product launches and free-for-all press nights, you're generally at nothing trying to talk to players. On the whole, managers just don't want them doing it. http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/the-gaa-championship-summer-warts-and-all-1.2646981 jimski (Kildare) - Posts: 381 - 01/06/2016 19:53:56 1860655 Link
Mediaman, you've been collating statistics forever but where is any of this going? If you're planning on presenting any of this to RTE or even going down the lines of an online petition then fair play, but you just seem to be complaining without doing anything. Is that not a bit like moaning about the weather? MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts: 2324 - 01/06/2016 20:21:20 1860667 Link
Replying To MedwayIrish: "Mediaman, you've been collating statistics forever but where is any of this going? If you're planning on presenting any of this to RTE or even going down the lines of an online petition then fair play, but you just seem to be complaining without doing anything. Is that not a bit like moaning about the weather?" To be fair to him he's been properly collecting these stats from the start of the year, before the championship kicks in. It would be pretty silly to submit anything now before seeing what the coverage is like at the height of the season. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4586 - 01/06/2016 20:54:59 1860681 Link
Replying To benched: "What competition are they part of? What trophy is up for grabs?" They are test matches. In rugby practically every match is considered important. It's an attitude which I would like more of in the GAA where there can be a lack or respect for the league. Maybe if we respected our games more they'd be respected more in the media. Getting back to the rugby though, the games count towards World Ranking points too. These are used to seed teams for the World Cup and has a big influence on the difficulty of a team's group. The World Rankings also hold their own prestige, outside of their use for seeding. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4586 - 01/06/2016 21:02:46 1860685 Link
The RTE 6.01 News and Sport stats for May make for interesting reading once again. There were 31 programmes in May and the number of times the top three sports featured was: 1. Soccer featured 29 times out of 31. (on 94% of programmes) 2. Rugby Union featured 24 times out of 31. (on 77% of programmes) 3. Gaelic Games (football and hurling combined) featured 16 times out of 31. (on 52% of programmes) Somewhat surprising to see that even though the championships have now begun football and hurling are still covered 25% less often than Rugby Union. mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 01/06/2016 21:02:57 1860686 Link
Replying To benched: "What competition are they part of? What trophy is up for grabs?" What competition are they part of? What trophy is up for grabs? benched (Tyrone) - Posts:291 - 01/06/2016 13:53:19 They are international tests. Full blooded affairs. Their games are one of the few tests Ireland play that don't have a trophy up for grabs. Like games against Argentina are for the Admiral Brown Cup, games against Australia are for the Lansdowne Cup, games against Scotland are played for the Centenary Quaich A game doesn't have to be part of a competition to be very important. A full rugby international game is a test game and is just like a full cricket test game, a senior soccer international etc etc and therefore are the highest level you can reach in the sport ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 01/06/2016 21:34:45 1860707 Link
Replying To jimski: "Extract from Malachy Clerkin article in Irish Times last Saturday week 52: intercounty The intercounty game grows more and more remote from its people every year. One team closes off its training sessions, others follow suit. One team shuts down engagement with the press, the rest aren't far behind. 53: media blackout Media access to county teams now is the worst its ever been. Which wouldn't matter in the slightest except it means that public access to county teams is the worst its ever been. Outside of product launches and free-for-all press nights, you're generally at nothing trying to talk to players. On the whole, managers just don't want them doing it. I" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/the-gaa-championship-summer-warts-and-all-1.2646981" I really enjoyed that article you linked. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4586 - 01/06/2016 21:35:34 1860709 Link
Somewhat surprising to see that even though the championships have now begun football and hurling are still covered 25% less often than Rugby Union. mediaman (Antrim) - Posts:314 - 01/06/2016 21:02:57 18 yes but there was 4 live gaa games compared to zero rugby, on rte. plus sunday game , review of 2015, pairc life with jacqui hurley and the marty squad on radio one (on same time as sunday six one news so you will miss that!!!!) and even podge collins documentary on utv janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 01/06/2016 21:46:54 1860716 Link
Replying To ormondbannerman: "What competition are they part of? What trophy is up for grabs? benched (Tyrone) - Posts:291 - 01/06/2016 13:53:19 They are international tests. Full blooded affairs. Their games are one of the few tests Ireland play that don't have a trophy up for grabs. Like games against Argentina are for the Admiral Brown Cup, games against Australia are for the Lansdowne Cup, games against Scotland are played for the Centenary Quaich A game doesn't have to be part of a competition to be very important. A full rugby international game is a test game and is just like a full cricket test game, a senior soccer international etc etc and therefore are the highest level you can reach in the sport" Aah yeah the prestigious Admiral Brown Cup - how could I forget about that. Also the Centenary Quaich Cup - a tournament within a tournament what a quaint idea. I might recommend we in Tyrone start the same with our neighbours for when we meet in the Ulster Championship, so far this year we could of won the Sperrin Cup for victory over Derry. It would look great sitting in Garvaghey along with the McKenna & Div 2 trophies. Imagine the excitement if we could add the Slieve Beagh trophy to the collection by beating Monaghan in the Ulster final, just hope they don't forget to take the Anglo Celt home with them in all the excitement. Coming to think of it we could add Fermanagh into that competition and make it a three team tournament - or would that just be silly? Just because it is an international sometimes doesn't make it anything more than a friendly/trial match - Ireland v Belarus? The highest level you can reach in sport?? benched (Tyrone) - Posts: 534 - 02/06/2016 09:47:19 1860771 Link
Replying To Whammo86: "They are test matches. In rugby practically every match is considered important. It's an attitude which I would like more of in the GAA where there can be a lack or respect for the league. Maybe if we respected our games more they'd be respected more in the media. Getting back to the rugby though, the games count towards World Ranking points too. These are used to seed teams for the World Cup and has a big influence on the difficulty of a team's group. The World Rankings also hold their own prestige, outside of their use for seeding." The Barbarian matches and the Wolfhound matches count? Are you serious. galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2620 - 02/06/2016 09:51:05 1860774 Link
Mediaman, you've been collating statistics forever but where is any of this going? If you're planning on presenting any of this to RTE or even going down the lines of an online petition then fair play, but you just seem to be complaining without doing anything. Is that not a bit like moaning about the weather? MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts:1055 - 01/06/2016 20:21:20 Medway In my opinion he is just simply highlighting the bias towards rugby in particular for the posters on this forum, nothing more nothing less. It doesn't annoy me, in fact I enjoy seeing the stats prove what most of us think anyhow. At some stage it might also dawn on the egg chasers that they continually fan the flames by posting on this topic more than mediaman himself. bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 02/06/2016 10:24:32 1860792 Link
Replying To galwayford: "The Barbarian matches and the Wolfhound matches count? Are you serious." What are you on about. If you read the bloody thread you will see that Ormond was having issue with 3 tests v S Africa being called challenge games. Benched came up with his retort and I then responded to that. So my response was regarding the three challenge matches vs S Africa. A little tip, context is usually useful when trying to understand something. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4586 - 02/06/2016 11:11:14 1860814 Link
Rugby don't do friendlies because they have so few countries playing seriously. There's no qualification for their main competitions for the usual suspects, they all automatically qualify because they're the only countries that play to a good enough level. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13830 - 02/06/2016 12:10:26 1860843 Link
Replying To benched: " Replying To ormondbannerman: "What competition are they part of? What trophy is up for grabs? benched (Tyrone) - Posts:291 - 01/06/2016 13:53:19 They are international tests. Full blooded affairs. Their games are one of the few tests Ireland play that don't have a trophy up for grabs. Like games against Argentina are for the Admiral Brown Cup, games against Australia are for the Lansdowne Cup, games against Scotland are played for the Centenary Quaich A game doesn't have to be part of a competition to be very important. A full rugby international game is a test game and is just like a full cricket test game, a senior soccer international etc etc and therefore are the highest level you can reach in the sport" Aah yeah the prestigious Admiral Brown Cup - how could I forget about that. Also the Centenary Quaich Cup - a tournament within a tournament what a quaint idea. I might recommend we in Tyrone start the same with our neighbours for when we meet in the Ulster Championship, so far this year we could of won the Sperrin Cup for victory over Derry. It would look great sitting in Garvaghey along with the McKenna & Div 2 trophies. Imagine the excitement if we could add the Slieve Beagh trophy to the collection by beating Monaghan in the Ulster final, just hope they don't forget to take the Anglo Celt home with them in all the excitement. Coming to think of it we could add Fermanagh into that competition and make it a three team tournament - or would that just be silly? Just because it is an international sometimes doesn't make it anything more than a friendly/trial match - Ireland v Belarus? The highest level you can reach in sport??" You know the Ulster Championship is already a tournament within a tournament right?? A 'quaint' idea the GAA came up with many years ago bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4653 - 02/06/2016 12:44:01 1860859 Link
There's no qualification for their main competitions for the usual suspects, they all automatically qualify because they're the only countries that play to a good enough level. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts:9620 - 02/06/2016 12:10:26 you could say the same about the liam mccarthy cup, still a fantastic competition though janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 02/06/2016 13:02:32 1860864 Link
Replying To bumpernut: "Mediaman, you've been collating statistics forever but where is any of this going? If you're planning on presenting any of this to RTE or even going down the lines of an online petition then fair play, but you just seem to be complaining without doing anything. Is that not a bit like moaning about the weather? MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts:1055 - 01/06/2016 20:21:20 Medway In my opinion he is just simply highlighting the bias towards rugby in particular for the posters on this forum, nothing more nothing less. It doesn't annoy me, in fact I enjoy seeing the stats prove what most of us think anyhow. At some stage it might also dawn on the egg chasers that they continually fan the flames by posting on this topic more than mediaman himself." That's a fair shout but I'd think most GAA fans would be able to realise that for themselves without some anorak sitting on his sofa with a stopwatch when the news comes on. Correct me if I'm wrong but he appears not to have any views to offer on GAA or any other sport on this forum. Purely statistical. Living over here I don't have firm views either way as obviously I can't get RTE (I have to rely on the odd Sky game or Premier Sports). I enjoy soccer, GAA and rugby and while I know what you mean about certain posters being obsessive about a particular sport, I just don't understand why some consider it unacceptable to like both or all three. There's no conflict of interest for me. MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts: 2324 - 02/06/2016 13:21:31 1860869 Link
I just don't understand why some consider it unacceptable to like both or all three. There's no conflict of interest for me. MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts:1058 - 02/06/2016 13:21:31 1 Totally agree janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 02/06/2016 13:31:39 1860876 Link