To be honest, while I am critical of the coverage given to the games I'm not so sure that RTE put forward this negative view intentionally. GAA is kind of portrayed to people from outside the sport/outside the country/casual viewers as this 'tough guy', 'hard hitting' sport. So in my view it looks like it is nearly accepted as a way to promote the game they are showing.

To try make sense of what I am saying, link it to a Junior club game with two local rivals. Some people from the 'fancy' town teams, senior teams or other clubs, might see this as a potential feisty affair and could be funny to see how much they dislike each other (both fans and players) and fight each other. And as sad as that may sound this definitely happens.

While I definitely don't agree with this mentality I think it is very evident within the perception of the GAA. This was done to death in the two weeks leading up to the Tyrone v Derry game. And not just with television coverage, ex players were also coming out saying how feisty it would be and describing the bad blood this fixture carries.

Stupid as this may sound and be, I think it is nearly a way to push the game and grab attention rather than a way to run it down.

Triple H (Meath) - Posts: 551 - 27/05/2016 20:57:13    1859465

No the GAA doesn't get fair coverage compared to soccer and Rugby.

Take the proposed building of a Provincial GAA Stadium in Ulster, located to suit the Rugby World Cup, will be ideal for holding Concerts and Corporate events and will have so many different conference rooms.

The only thing it doesn't take into consideration is GAA, the sport it is supposed to represent. Anybody speaking up has been told to "Be quiet or the Brits will take the money back".

GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3026 - 27/05/2016 21:00:28    1859466

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8114 - 27/05/2016 21:27:02    1859472

On Thursday the 19th of May the centrepiece of the RTE 6.01 News and Sport preview of the USFC match between Tyrone and Derry was a number of punches swopped between the sides when they met sometime in the 1990's (the VT was so old it was even grainy). In this evening's preview of the USFC match between Cavan and Armagh the centrepiece was a pre-match parade row between the teams from a few years ago. (Even though they met twice this year alone no footage of those games was shown) No other sport is so regularly portrayed in this way. Ignore the positive and accentuate the negative. That's the RTE way when it comes to football/hurling. At least they're consistent. This evening's effort was a particularly blatant attack on our game.
mediaman (Antrim) - Posts:312 - 27/05/2016 19:50:56Complain to the relevant authorities then and don't just whinge anonymously on a web forum.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 27/05/2016 21:43:30    1859480

Green and red and Ormondbannerman

alternatively Mediaman could simply stop watching the sports section of the six one news

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 28/05/2016 08:36:57    1859490

Or paying his licence, if he's a Dub as he claims.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8114 - 28/05/2016 09:51:22    1859501

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2620 - 29/05/2016 11:40:42    1859666

Media man does a great service taking on the "great and good" of our land.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2620 - 29/05/2016 11:41:45    1859668

Agree with mediaman re preview of Cavan Armagh match. RTE seem determined to go to great lengths to highlight the negative in GAA while ignoring similar incidents in rugby. The mass brawl following a try towards the end of the Scotland Ireland match was ignored and you can be sure there will be no mention of it when previewing the corresponding fixture next year not to mind digging it up for the 2018 fixture.

mod (Mayo) - Posts: 859 - 30/05/2016 17:00:45    1860062

The GAA gets way more disproportionate coverage then then rugby as the standard of product known as the GAA is falling rapidly. The structure of GAA competitions are a joke.

It does not get more coverage then Irish league soccer though.

Ps (I don't like rugby but I can see it is run better and marketed better then the GAA).

gormdubhgorm (Dublin) - Posts: 990 - 30/05/2016 17:46:13    1860074

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 30/05/2016 17:58:01    1860083

and separately Mod i hope ye win the All Ireland this year -i like mayo, belmullet and achill are stunning for hols, like us ye lost 2 all irelands in 90s and then saw your greatest rival win two of em, i even turned up in red and green to cheer ye on for the 2014 replay (limerick jersey with long sleeve munster jersey inside) !!

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 30/05/2016 18:18:15    1860094

Re Jonesboro
Appreciate the cordial welcome :-) However this has nothing to do with who has the rights to the match. This was a preview of the Cavan Armagh match done on Six One Sports. RTE will no doubt preview the Ireland Scotland match in 2017 and 2018 as they did all of Irelands WC matches even though they didn't have the TV rights. I'll wager my prediction still holds good.

mod (Mayo) - Posts: 859 - 30/05/2016 18:25:24    1860097

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6181 - 30/05/2016 19:07:47    1860111

jimski (Kildare) - Posts: 381 - 30/05/2016 20:54:29    1860136

Re Janesboro (2) Give many examples. Sounds a little teachery :-( but I'm sure you didn't mean it in that tone. Of course there are loads of examples. I think you as an aficionado would surely be in a better position to do give "many" examples.
I expect you are not trying to tell me the AIL has no on pitch brawls? It stands to reason that, as we have seen many unsavoury incidents at international level (indeed there are plenty of YouTube videos devoted to such incidents). This must happen at Club AIL level too. I have never seen any brawl at AIL level brought to our attention by RTE Six One Sport. Yet RTE who do not cover the GAA club championship deem it appropriate to highlight an incident at club GAA matches. So if such incidents are deemed worthy of coverage at a GAA match why not rugby? Is that not biased coverage?
When Peter Canavans retired? The footage shown was not the great goals/points of one of the greatest forwards to grace the game but a scene from a match where he got involved in a fight. Don't get me wrong I agree there are problems regarding discipline but the GAA are not the only organisation facing these problems. Do you think the IRB covered themselves in glory dealing with the B O'Driscoll Lions spiking incident? Yet it was barely touched on in the media and the TV footage from this international (and greatly hyped event) was unusually blurred. How would rugby fans have felt if on the occasion of BODs retirement RTE News choose one of the most negative images from his career. Instead we got the long goodbye last game for Leinster, last game for Ireland, last game in Aviva last game in RDS wife in tears with child in arms. What a contrast!

mod (Mayo) - Posts: 859 - 30/05/2016 21:13:06    1860143

Good morning mod

For the purposes of the below I shall define a brawl as being where punches are thrown and handbags as where fella squares up/push and shove but no punches thrown i.e a schmozzle

Id probably go to a club game most weeks, predominantly AIL 1a, Would depending on fixtures times see 2 or 3 club SHC games per round (5 rounds) plus knckout stages and some football games as well but not as many, plus the provincial and country games.
So im basing my answers on what I see in those games

I expect you are not trying to tell me the AIL has no on pitch brawls?
Brawls and handbags occur in all physical contact sports. We have all been involved in such incidents and after the game youd be laughing about it sometimes with the guy you were fighting with and as the years go on the stories get more and more exhaggerated.

Believe it or not the amount of brawls in AIL games is very rare as it is indeed in representative rugby reason, a lot rarer compared so say 20 yars ago , handbags yes but brawls rare (and id say the same for GAA too), reason being its now a yellow card offence and can be a straight red, proper order too because they way guys are so muscled up even at club level one punch can have fatal consequences (maybe even so in GAA), Was at a club game this year where a guy got straight red for a punch. Last brawl i saw at an ail game was 2012, going back lot longer to be fair for GAA.

Its actively discouraged in rugby due to yellow/red cards, it gets you dropped, costs you points and territory (same as gaa) and at pro level you get fined and could even cost you a contract, international caps. Guys have lost one on lions tours due to indiscipline. You be at a club game and something hots up youd hear the crowd roaring walk away lads dont react. 20 years ago if the same thing happened youd be expected to retaliate.

I have never seen any brawl at AIL level brought to our attention by RTE Six One Sport.
When have you last seen anything at AIL level brought to your attention by six one sport. Mod they dont even show AIL results on six one news never mind a brawl. It only get a pitiful few mins coverage on against the head. But its up to the IRFU to promote club rugby not RTE>

I have seen incidents going back to when AIL games were more extensively shown (they used do a few live games per year) where bans where incidents were highlighted on the TV and bans resulted. Long time ago now.

Yet RTE who do not cover the GAA club championship deem it appropriate to highlight an incident at club GAA matches. So if such incidents are deemed worthy of coverage at a GAA match why not rugby? Is that not biased coverage?

Fair point but bear in mind more club GAA games are shown, to be honest a lot of it is handbags. Unless its particularly nasty and or involving cheap shots I dont thing they should be shown at all

Don't get me wrong I agree there are problems regarding discipline but the GAA are not the only organisation facing these problems.
I dont think discipline is that bad an issue in GAA. There may be more incidents but thats merely due to there being more matches so its probably pro rate. Most games in all sports go off without a hitch

RE the odriscoll incident ah come on it was analysed to death all over the place. Same for other incidents on lions tours 1989 Battle of ballymore 1971 battle of christchurch. 1995 RWC battle of boet erasmus. Google them and compare them to todays stuff. Read any lions book for next years tour and they will still be analysing them.

Re Canavan -agreed- he was tough but not dirty- didnt see it but no need to show him in a fight - thankfully the new sky ad shows his greatest moment ever -lifting sam

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 31/05/2016 10:12:19    1860194

I expect you are not trying to tell me the AIL has no on pitch brawls? It stands to reason that, as we have seen many unsavoury incidents at international level (indeed there are plenty of YouTube videos devoted to such incidents). This must happen at Club AIL level too. I have never seen any brawl at AIL level brought to our attention by RTE Six One Sport. Yet RTE who do not cover the GAA club championship deem it appropriate to highlight an incident at club GAA matches. So if such incidents are deemed worthy of coverage at a GAA match why not rugby? Is that not biased coverage?
When Peter Canavans retired? The footage shown was not the great goals/points of one of the greatest forwards to grace the game but a scene from a match where he got involved in a fight. Don't get me wrong I agree there are problems regarding discipline but the GAA are not the only organisation facing these problems. Do you think the IRB covered themselves in glory dealing with the B O'Driscoll Lions spiking incident? Yet it was barely touched on in the media and the TV footage from this international (and greatly hyped event) was unusually blurred. How would rugby fans have felt if on the occasion of BODs retirement RTE News choose one of the most negative images from his career. Instead we got the long goodbye last game for Leinster, last game for Ireland, last game in Aviva last game in RDS wife in tears with child in arms. What a contrast!
mod (Mayo) - Posts:832 - 30/05/2016 21:13:06 There actually rarely is any brawls/fights in AIL games and with no games bar the odd division 1A regular season games and the 1A final shown on tv. Rugby is a collision sport and because of that players in general train and are much more restrained.
RTE can show incidents in club GAA games as there is tv footage of incidents. That isn't biased coverage.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 31/05/2016 11:46:52    1860200

The Sport's bulletin on this evening's 6.01 News and Sport lasted nearly 7 minutes devoted to just 2 sports. You guessed it. Soccer (understandable given tonight's match) and Rugby Union (despite the fact that the season ended on Saturday last). This is only the third time this year that RTE's 6.01 Sport has been restricted to just 2 sports (February 10th and March 1st the others) and of course Soccer and Rugby Union were the 2 featured sports on those occasions as well. And remember there are 3 senior championship matches this weekend. All 3 have been ignored so far this week by our National Television station while it has already begun previewing some Rugby Union challenge matches that are weeks away. Parity of esteem?

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 31/05/2016 20:50:40    1860387

And remember there are 3 senior championship matches this weekend. All 3 have been ignored so far this week by our National Television station while it has already begun previewing some Rugby Union challenge matches that are weeks away. Parity of esteem?

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts:313 - 31/05/2016 20:50:40 1860387

Are there not 5 senior championship games on the weekend -3 of them on tv, plus the ring meagher and rackard cup finals. Seems like parity of esteem to me
-what rugby union challenge matches are these to which you refer.

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 31/05/2016 22:11:21    1860408