Sure you have to laugh -

http://www.todayfm.com/mobile/index.php?id=26889

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7926 - 09/03/2016 16:24:12    1832926

Relax Rangersfan There are so many negative rugby stories not reported by RTE I assumed this would be too, but unlike the apologist for rugby I will hold my hands up and admit I got it wrong I should have checked.
But getting back to the doctor story I wonder will RTE be as eager to clearly illustrate the sporting connections of those in financial institutions coming before the courts.

mod (Mayo) - Posts: 859 - 09/03/2016 18:02:28    1832969

Judging by the huge volume of threads & posts about Kerry Donegal violent incidents - its seems rte may just be giving gaa fans what they want by showing the 'negative' incidents. Very few posts about the positive side of last weekends games. So rte are just reflecting the views of the gaa fans here

RangersFan (Dublin) - Posts: 117 - 09/03/2016 18:59:32    1832996

Mods comments in bold - mine after
Mod - I think the league is highly valued, a lot more highly valued (going by attendence) than say the Pro12.
mind you the last munster game v dragons had an attendance around 7500 ish whereas the limerick v wexford nhl game had around 4000ish (was at both games)

If the league is more highly valued how come you never see a team celebrate winning the league (heaven forbid it might be a sign of weakness) , whereas when a team wins the pro12 there is massive celebration as evidenced by this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU_IINgiWxE,

How can anyone believe that is not biased?
Well can you explain to me how anybody can say rte is so biased towards rugby when How come they did not show the rugby world cup - show no pro 12 no champions cup (not even highlights) and in few years time wont be showing 6 nations. if they were so biased they would outbid their rivals to show these events (or at least the free to air ones)

Relax Rangersfan There are so many negative rugby stories not reported by RTE I assumed this would be too,
Please give examples , not one or two , but many examples

I wonder will RTE be as eager to clearly illustrate the sporting connections of those in financial institutions coming before the courts. - why would they it has no relevance, if a gaa or rugby person commits an offence what has it got to do with the sport in question

As always more time has gone by without any semblance of a suggestion for improvement of gaa coverage by the anti rugby brigade

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 09/03/2016 19:21:52    1833010

teat in tom - - You see Janesboro thats a logical point and question, one which you wont find an answer to here im afraid.

well then again i was one day hoping that millwall would win the uefa cup, or even limerick win an all ireland!!

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 09/03/2016 19:23:25    1833014

Mod, I made a point of watching that news item about the doctor. Didn't see anything wrong with it or any evidence of bias. They had video footage of his involvement with Tyrone at All Ireland level so of course they were going to use it. If he was involved with Leitrim or Longford or some other unfashionable county who don't make it to our TV screens it is possible that his GAA connection would never have got a mention. Now that wouldnt be the situation regarding the best selling newspaper in Ireland which I do think love to highlight at every opportunity negative GAA stories

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 2011 - 09/03/2016 19:37:09    1833027

Mod RTE gives extensive coverage (updates on injuries regular interviews team announcements) for the 4 Pro 12 club teams
Given that they dont actually show any pro12 game how can they give extensive coverage
but ignores the more popular 32 Gaelic County teams.
Do they not show 30 plus championship games plus sunday game plus league sunday

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 09/03/2016 19:59:49    1833036

So the fact that RTE were outbid by TV3 for the RWC & that they can't possibly compete with SKY or BT for coverage of the Champions Cup proves that they're not biased towards rugby??? The head of the sports department in RTE is Ryle Nugent who I can't recall ever commentating on any sport other than rugby. RTE is also a mere stone's throw away from where Leinster played their home games for years. Maybe this debate has taken a D4 turn for the worst but I think the original pretext was that soccer & rugby get more publicity on RTE News programmes than Gaelic Games, in spite of Gaelic Games consistently having higher attendance figures nationally than any other sports. Mediaman has proved this beyond doubt. So what to do about it?

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 10/03/2016 11:55:51    1833210

keeper -- well if they were that biased they would have outbid tv3 for the world cup and 6 nations and outbid tg4 for pro12 and champions cup highlights -surely they can afford to outbid them -- -bit hard to argue they are biased towards rugby when they dont show most of the major competitions

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 10/03/2016 12:43:02    1833237

sceptical (Cavan) - Posts:379 - 22/02/2016 17:32:04 -- . As for Tonga Samoa Fiji. They all have union jacks on their flag for a reason.

just saw the tonga and samoa flags - no union jacks on them - and fiji are getting rid of the union jack on theirs

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 10/03/2016 12:50:48    1833240

Keeper 7 -so what to do about it
I put some suggestions on a previous post on page 29 of this thread- the anti rugby brigade have not replied or responded which is interesting -

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 10/03/2016 12:53:28    1833242

Janesboro,

They still have a budget they have to adhere too. Why don't they "outbid TG4" for their GAA coverage? We're mainly talking about their news programmes where they don't have to outbid anyone to show sports features.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 10/03/2016 12:54:12    1833243

Keeper - no reason not to outbid tg4 - personally i prefer tg4 keep both their rugby and gaa coverage - as 1/ i enjoy it and 2 / sharpens my irish and 3 its very good - in both gaa and rugby

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 10/03/2016 12:59:12    1833248

sceptical (Cavan) - Posts:379 - 22/02/2016 17:32:04 -- . As for Tonga Samoa Fiji. They all have union jacks on their flag for a reason.

just saw the tonga and samoa flags - no union jacks on them - and fiji are getting rid of the union jack on theirs

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:238 - 10/03/2016 12:50:48  

This thread should bd named myth busters! So many untrue 'facts' posted

RangersFan (Dublin) - Posts: 117 - 10/03/2016 14:24:20    1833301

So many questions I try to answer them all in time.
First Janesboro, Teat in Tom
Point (1)
Given that they don't actually show any pro12 game how can they give extensive coverage
And
Well can you explain to me how anybody can say rte is so biased towards rugby when How come they did not show the rugby world cup - show no pro 12 no champions cup (not even highlights) and in few years time wont be showing 6 nations. if they were so biased they would outbid their rivals to show these events (or at least the free to air ones)
Answer (1)
How do you prove bias? It is impossible for one person to cover all of RTE output so you have to set some parameters.
Looking at the main sports broadcast of the day on the Six One News is an excellent choice
Mediaman has chosen also to focus on the Six One presumably for the same reason.
The twitter Account @rtewatch I see is also adopting the same policy (But it differs in that it specifically covers Monday to Friday)
It is also reasonable to assume if RTE are biased in this the most important daily sports broadcast they are biased in the rest of their output.
I trust you are not trying to tell me the coverage of the 6Nations and the World Cup on SixOneNews was/is not most comprehensive.
On the Six One News Sport you get updates on all the 4 competing teams including interviews and supporting video. Today is the first mention of GAA in during the week (Mon to Fri) of any Gaelic games Hurling or Football since Feb 25th On Feb 25thit was about the GAA congress today it was about 1916 Commemoration.
Today is the 50th day according to @rtewatch (weekday) and in that time there have been 87 items on Soccer 79 items on Rugby 18 items on Gaelic Football and 7 items on Hurling

mod (Mayo) - Posts: 859 - 10/03/2016 19:30:09    1833441

Point (2)
League not important (justifying non coverage)
I think the league is highly valued, a lot more highly valued (going by attendence) than say the Pro12.
mind you the last munster game v dragons had an attendance around 7500 ish whereas the limerick v wexford nhl game had around 4000ish (was at both games)
Answer (2)
Given that there are only four rugby Pro12 teams and there are over 60 county teams hurling and football it is not surprising. The only choice for rugby fans is one of those four. Despite that even a county with a small population like Roscommon is selling out some of their games. The league is clearly highly valued given the high attendances.
Of course the rugby clubs (real clubs not the amalgamations) are also given extensive air time on Against the Head but I am confining myself to SixOne news.
Point (3)
PoolSturgeon
I made a point of watching that news item about the doctor. Didn't see anything wrong with it or any evidence of bias. They had video footage of his involvement with Tyrone at All Ireland level so of course they were going to use it.
Answer (3)
I will give you the answer given by Janesboro gave me but one which apparently neither you nor RTE agree.
"why would they it has no relevance, if a gaa or rugby person commits an offence what has it got to do with the sport in question".
Now I agree with Janesboro on this but if RTE are selective decide to link sport with court cases but only do it in the case of GAA and not in Rugby that would be biased then wouldn't it? So I will watch the banking cases with interest.
Of course the doctor story was not even a court case. He was before the Medical Council.
I'll leave it at that for the moment.
I haven't forgotten the examples of rugby not covered by RTE but will get back to that later.

mod (Mayo) - Posts: 859 - 10/03/2016 20:01:26    1833454

Mod,

"87 items on Soccer 79 items on Rugby 18 items on Gaelic Football and 7 items on Hurling"

Those RTE twitter statistics are fairly damning, in my opinion.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 10/03/2016 20:28:27    1833465

I trust you are not trying to tell me the coverage of the 6Nations and the World Cup on SixOneNews was/is not most comprehensive.
On the Six One News Sport you get updates on all the 4 competing teams including interviews and supporting video. Today is the first mention of GAA in during the week (Mon to Fri) of any Gaelic games Hurling or Football since Feb 25th On Feb 25thit was about the GAA congress today it was about 1916 Commemoration.
Today is the 50th day according to @rtewatch (weekday) and in that time there have been 87 items on Soccer 79 items on Rugby 18 items on Gaelic Football and 7 items on Hurling
mod (Mayo) - Posts:813 - 10/03/2016 19:30:09 Those competing teams in rugby are professional. The RTE staff who work during the day can make videos/promo videos/take pics when all the GAA players are at work or in college. Its much harder to get coverage of GAA sides when theyre amateur players who also have jobs/college
Mod, "87 items on Soccer 79 items on Rugby 18 items on Gaelic Football and 7 items on Hurling"
Those RTE twitter statistics are fairly damning, in my opinion.
keeper7 (Longford) - Posts:2709 - 10/03/2016 20:28:2This is middle of the rugby/soccer seasons building up to the end. Its still in the early stages of the hurling and gaelic season and the main hurling and gaelic competitions are still several months away from starting so of course coverage of hurling and gaelic will be much less than other sports

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 10/03/2016 21:23:00    1833491

I trust you are not trying to tell me the coverage of the 6Nations and the World Cup on SixOneNews was/is not most comprehensive.
On the Six One News Sport you get updates on all the 4 competing teams including interviews and supporting video. Today is the first mention of GAA in during the week (Mon to Fri) of any Gaelic games Hurling or Football since Feb 25th On Feb 25thit was about the GAA congress today it was about 1916 Commemoration.
Today is the 50th day according to @rtewatch (weekday) and in that time there have been 87 items on Soccer 79 items on Rugby 18 items on Gaelic Football and 7 items on Hurling
mod (Mayo) - Posts:813 - 10/03/2016 19:30:09 Those competing teams in rugby are professional. The RTE staff who work during the day can make videos/promo videos/take pics when all the GAA players are at work or in college. Its much harder to get coverage of GAA sides when theyre amateur players who also have jobs/college
Mod, "87 items on Soccer 79 items on Rugby 18 items on Gaelic Football and 7 items on Hurling"
Those RTE twitter statistics are fairly damning, in my opinion.
keeper7 (Longford) - Posts:2709 - 10/03/2016 20:28:2This is middle of the rugby/soccer seasons building up to the end. Its still in the early stages of the hurling and gaelic season and the main hurling and gaelic competitions are still several months away from starting so of course coverage of hurling and gaelic will be much less than other sports

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 10/03/2016 21:23:17    1833492

RTEwatch is Mediaman's Twitter handle. More whinging about this 'issue' but doing nothing about it. Must be a Fianna Fáil man or woman!!!

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7926 - 10/03/2016 21:46:42    1833499