Great post witnof.
I was in Italy a few years back and nobody I spoke to had ever heard of rugby never mind played it. I was told on here that it's very popular and was wrong. Rugby has great marketing and they are so far ahead of every sports body in Ireland when it comes to promotion of games in the media it's unbelievable. Great credit to them. The way sports are protrayed in the media is my big gripe. Punches thrown in a rugby game are seen as good manly stuff. In a gaa or soccer match its a travesty and terrible role models. And my favourite piece of media every September is how the papers love to tell you that the finals will earn "the gaa a bumper €5m". Why can't they say the same about every soccer or rugby international. Fair is fair. Pity they wouldn't report more time in how a professional sport with 10 times less playing numbers than gaa or soccergets nearly the same if not more funding of the government? In these times I think those millions could be better spent on community projects than helping millionaire players and mercenaries here for a few seasons.

Bain (Donegal) - Posts: 470 - 26/02/2016 17:03:11    1828484

Good post Bain.

Well said.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13795 - 26/02/2016 17:16:31    1828488

Fair play, Bain. Just saw on the 9 o'clock news the only footage of Fermanagh V Armagh was of players going into the tunnel at halftime where a fracas apparently took place.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 27/02/2016 21:42:07    1828712

Didn't see that keeper but if true then it just highlights again what mediaman is trying to get across. Anyone who thinks it is coincidental that these are the images shown rather than some of the fine scores must be naiive in the extreme. Very difficult for the GAA to do much about it as well - if they complain about it then it will be spun as the GAA focusing on stopping RTE showing 'violent' incidents rather than trying to eradicate 'violence' from the game, when in reality there was nothing to what happened at half time.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 28/02/2016 09:17:00    1828726

My point proved keeper. Forget about the wonder score by Campbell to win the game. Show a bit of argy/bargy at halftime. Not trying to say it's wrong not to show it but they could have shown a few scores to at least show a bit of the good points of the game. Why always the negative points. Gives a bad impression of games when this is all that is shown.

Bain (Donegal) - Posts: 470 - 28/02/2016 11:50:52    1828762

I like rugby but it will never replace the GAA. Why? It is a business and the clubs are NOT important it is only the professional teams that count.


Let's be honest, that's a bit naive.

We have an exact replica situation in the gaa where it's is a huge business and most definitely the clubs are not important and it's only the big counties who count as we have seen on numerous occasions, funding being one example, competition structures and rules favouring bigger counties etc etc.

When it comes to ignoring the ordinary club person and favouring the bigger teams that's one moral high ground that the gaa most definitely cannot Lord over rugby.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1484 - 28/02/2016 12:15:19    1828775

Last night's RTE Nine O'Clock News brought everything we have been saying on this thread into sharp focus. The report on the Ireland England Rugby Union match completely ignored the worst example of foul play in the entire game, an incident highlighted on social media when an England player kicked out 4 times at an Ireland player on the ground, one kick catching him on the face. Social media comment suggests it was a red card offence. RTE News completely ignored that example of foul play preferring instead to concentrate on the play itself. However in the same bulletin RTE News zoned it on a HT pushing and shoving match between Armagh and Fermanagh in a dimly lit tunnel in a Division 2 NFL game. Not one second of the match itself was shown. Nothing positive. All negative. A common approach on RTE News programmes on TV.

So when it came to Rugby Union RTE TV News concentrated on the play and ignored the worst examples of violence while in the case of football RTE concentrated on the standoff in the tunnel and ignored the game. RTE TV News always does what it can to protect Rugby's image and goes out of its way to damage the image of our games. A classic example of biased reporting. I rest my case.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 28/02/2016 13:37:16    1828792

The referee, touch judge and tmo ruled it was fine. But some people on 'social media' are outraged so you think that makes it newsworthy. Sums it all up.
Rugby is a physical sport and these things happen. A brawl in the tunnel is outrageous behaviour from plsyers but hey sweep sweep sweep it under thd carpet as always.

RangersFan (Dublin) - Posts: 117 - 28/02/2016 14:01:13    1828795

Hmmm

Gaa got more coverage on last nights 9 o clock news and yes there was a showing of a fracas in the Armagh game. There was also significant coverage of the Monaghan Dublin game which certain people seem to have ignored along with coverage of the congress, again ignored.

In the rugby they indeed did show foul play including the late charge and knock to the head that Conor Murray took which led to a yellow card so again they did show a foul play incident in the game which again some people seem to have missed. They didn't show the other incident which wasn't deemed a deliberate foul by the referee and match officials in the rugby game but did show the foul play that was punished.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1484 - 28/02/2016 15:23:33    1828814

What's that I hear? The distinctive sound of the Rugby Union wagons being pulled into a circle.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 28/02/2016 16:02:06    1828845

You rest your case ? You who know nothing about any sport. If you're so aggrieved then do something about it rather than your incessant whinging. Just an anti-English games thread is all this is. Why not just post 'keep Ireland white and playing the GAA instead of any sports' you narrow-minded troll. That's your real agenda here. Put the kettle on and windup the stopwatch for the nine o'clock news and regale us all with the fascinating second-by-second, percentage, ranking of all sports mentioned. Easy to point out an issue, not so easy to do something about it. Do you whinge about politicians too and not even use your vote?

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7926 - 28/02/2016 20:17:59    1829022

GreenandRed,

Some of us don't share your opinion on this. Mediaman has pointed out an issue & repeatedly used stark evidence to back up his claims. Are we all just anti-English bigots?

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 28/02/2016 21:21:33    1829054

God news. Tomorrow is the last day of February so there'll be a whole new raft of RTE monthly statistics to enjoy over the next few days.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 28/02/2016 21:44:19    1829070

Not at all Keeper. I agree that there seems some bias. But if you or I raised a topic here about The Black Card, The Mark, New Football Championship Format etc we wouldn't get within 2 pages if we didn't have some proactive, even ridiculous ideas, about how to fix them. This is his second thread on the same topic which has, allegedly taken him from Dublin to Antrim. From a poster who shows no knowledge of any sport other than the number of seconds it gets on RTE News. And his recent anti-rugby jibes show this is just an anti English sports thread by him. Tune in in 10 years time. Same whinging, no attempt made to remedy the situation. Like an auld wan after mass whinging about the passers by.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7926 - 28/02/2016 21:44:54    1829071

Last night's RTE Nine O'Clock News brought everything we have been saying on this thread into sharp focus. The report on the Ireland England Rugby Union match completely ignored the worst example of foul play in the entire game, an incident highlighted on social media when an England player kicked out 4 times at an Ireland player on the ground, one kick catching him on the face. Social media comment suggests it was a red card offence. RTE News completely ignored that example of foul play preferring instead to concentrate on the play itself. However in the same bulletin RTE News zoned it on a HT pushing and shoving match between Armagh and Fermanagh in a dimly lit tunnel in a Division 2 NFL game. Not one second of the match itself was shown. Nothing positive. All negative. A common approach on RTE News programmes on TV.

So when it came to Rugby Union RTE TV News concentrated on the play and ignored the worst examples of violence while in the case of football RTE concentrated on the standoff in the tunnel and ignored the game. RTE TV News always does what it can to protect Rugby's image and goes out of its way to damage the image of our games. A classic example of biased reporting. I rest my case.



posts have argue that this kicking four times to head in rugby was adjudge by reff as ok during match maybe so, but the point is clear incidence was not even shown on rte news, like in fermanagh armagh incidence rte show tunnel where incidence occurr. while i think it is clear bais towards showning all negative in gaa, the gaa don't help themselves,
the gaa are in a very powerful position when the tv rights come up and maybe start stressing to show gaa games skills in a more positive light, not show fare ups, tunnel incidence during news if rte station wants broadcasting right for summer games.
I think the top brass in gaa need to get on to rte and say clearly to be more positive towards coverage and what they show or maybe sky ,tv3 or t na t will

madbull (Westmeath) - Posts: 195 - 29/02/2016 14:35:54    1829374

The bottom line here is Gaelic Games are the best attended sports in Ireland & that is often not reflected on the national broadcaster's news & sports coverage. When it is covered it is frequently portrayed in a negative light. I don't think it has been mentioned here previously but TV3 are equally as guilty of this as RTE, in my opinion, with soccer getting most of the coverage on their news/sports broadcasts. All most GAA fans would be asking for is more parity & positivity in Gaelic Games coverage.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 29/02/2016 15:15:59    1829411

Would anybody else think a GAA station could be the way to go? Imagine. Something similar to the sky formula 1 station There's definitely be enough games and interest. I'd watch hurling and football at any level anytime of the day if it was on.

There's always great games on that don't get televised. Only last weekend one of the great fitzgibbon finals of all time was on with no facilities to watch it. There'd be enough college, secondary schools, u21 fixtures on during the week, with the big intercounty games at the weekend. Room for a magazine show of a saturday morning. And just air repeats or games that couldn't be shown live during the day.

begining (UK) - Posts: 320 - 29/02/2016 15:32:55    1829420

Tearintom I like rugby but it will never replace the GAA. Why? It is a business and the clubs are NOT important it is only the professional teams that count

Go to any AIL or competitive junior league cup game and you will see that club rugby is important to the people involved - same as Club Gaa or any other club sport,, to some of us its more important than internationals and provincials, Go to any rugby club on a sunday morning and see the amount of kids playing rugby - same as the gaa and other sports its an important outlet/service the clubs provide

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 29/02/2016 15:47:28    1829427

It's a good idea beginning. Might be too expensive to be a live TV station, they'd want a high spec of video for broadcast. Maybe an online version nationally and for each county. Online would be accessible for everyone home and abroad. Could include club news and clips of senior, intermediate, junior, under-age ladies and mens games. Could use cheaper home camera equipment and get a few sponsors on-board to help fund it.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7926 - 29/02/2016 17:16:43    1829474

Even if RTE took on another channel like 'RTE GAA' and had a basic enough setup like one camera per game for low profile games they'd get a return out of it. In fairness to TG4 they do their bit to promote the club games and midweek games but it's in Irish, which for 90% of us, might as well be Chinese.

There does be lots of high quality club games in the likes of Dublin, Kilkenny, Tyrone and Kerry etc. going on that no one sees, and would watch any evening if they were on. With club football being far more open and exciting to watch than county these days it's a shame not enough people get to see it. There's definitely a market there for it

Will you go into buisness with me GreenandRed?

begining (UK) - Posts: 320 - 29/02/2016 17:37:49    1829485