...and there was me thinking our national anthem was "Ghost Town" by the Specials

(ref:Father Ted episode when DJ Priest has only one record)

RoyalSt.Pat (Meath) - Posts: 333 - 28/07/2014 08:54:23    1626952

whatever about the national Anthem, I do think the minute's silence should be done away with.
I think the national Anthem is important. Lots of kids on here who are too stupid to understand the significence but it is to our shame that we don't know the words. If you dont know them then bloody learn them.Or are you too thick to do that also.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5520 - 28/07/2014 09:06:46    1626960

Hate the disrespect of the anthems, but I do like it being played. We should speed it up, players should stand still until it's finished. Also I remember a few years ago it was announced in some stadium "Please do not shout until the anthem is complete" and everybody respected it. Just a slight change is needed.

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 28/07/2014 09:24:39    1626969

Intelligent,patriotic,anthem loving s goldrick - could you give me a rough estimate of the percentage of irish people,who you think know what the english translation of the national anthem is ?

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 28/07/2014 10:29:46    1627027

Anyone with an IQ over 50 who did Irish in school knows what the words mean Cued. And if they don't it doesn't matter. The anthem reminds us that the GAA is about more than the games. When you are standing for it, assuming you do :-) , you standing in the place where 14 people were murdered by the Auxies in 1920.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 28/07/2014 10:37:33    1627033

cuederocket
County: Dublin
Posts: 846

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Intelligent,patriotic,anthem loving s goldrick - could you give me a rough estimate of the percentage of irish people,who you think know what the english translation of the national anthem is ?

No.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5520 - 28/07/2014 10:41:50    1627037

It's almost a disgrace that we are even debating this let alone consider removing it. In general it's only played before important inter county games and is part of the warm up and anticipation building at a game. If you can hear it while in the jacks, it's time to finish up. It aids in teaching children to show respect and it's continuation of tradition. Teams only breakaway around "lámhach na bpiléar" just as the crowd give it gusto. This is tradition in itself and should be left alone. Personally I wait until the end to cheer. If anything were to change it should be standardised to a cd and not giving a local a go at murdering it.

ged (Louth) - Posts: 313 - 28/07/2014 10:42:04    1627039

Irish people in general don't respect the National Anthem. You even have calls from some to change it "cause it does not reflect miodern Ireland loike" - in that case the new anthem would have references to bankers, fraudsters, one direction and hollister tops.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11563 - 28/07/2014 10:44:41    1627046

Exactly Pinkie - they always announce pre throw-in at Casement that they ask all patrons to respect the National Anthem until it is completed. It's all it takes. Plus the few guys in the balaclavas help.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 28/07/2014 10:45:43    1627048

Well said ged.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 28/07/2014 10:46:22    1627049

Well if u wont i will.I would say no more than 5-10% of people have a clue of what they are singing.So are the 90% that dont know all kids,stupid and unpatriotic?

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 28/07/2014 10:46:23    1627050

It breaks my heart at games listening through the crowd hum or mumble their way through it and then 2 lines before the end screaming and blowing bloody hooters. What do people want to change it for - its our national anthem, have some pride for feck's sake!

decky (Roscommon) - Posts: 384 - 28/07/2014 10:51:02    1627059

Dont agree hurlingdub.We all did irish in school.Hated it myself.I could safely say theres not many on the Hill who know the translation.Silly talk about IQs and such.I always stand up and respect the anthem,right to the end,and dont bother hollering like a mad man for the last couple of lines.Ill be honest i really dont know the English translation.Im certainly not the only one.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 28/07/2014 10:54:52    1627066

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County: Dublin
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Well if u wont i will.I would say no more than 5-10% of people have a clue of what they are singing.So are the 90% that dont know all kids,stupid and unpatriotic?

Don't judge others as you judge yourself.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5520 - 28/07/2014 10:55:42    1627068

Your poor achy breaky heart decky.Uve a lot to be worried about lad.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 28/07/2014 10:56:43    1627071

A pity there was no band in Thurles yesterday. The national Anthem is part of who we are and its been a tradition for years and years to play and sing it. Some it seems don't know the words - shame on you!

The anthem is played before most club football and hurling games in Dr Cullen park - its part of the day's experience. Do some not show respect? Yes they do. Should that be the signal to abandon its use? No- definitely not.

People died that we might be able to play and stand and sing our anthem - people of our past. We today set by our example what is to be our future for our children and their children. Lets not abandon what is part of what we are.

The Dubs in the 70's especially in Hill 16 did shout and roar before the anthem was complete and the announcer then - for many years - ask that due respect be accorded and asked patrons to show respect and refrain from shouting until the anthem was finished. It worked - many more people sung until the anthem was complete. The same continues today especially on All Ireland Day and its an integral part of th day where that little shout just before the end of the anthem is heard showing the tremendous will for ones county to win and you also have the many who sing to the end! It helps in making a memorable experience for all.

carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1875 - 28/07/2014 11:14:48    1627098

Carlowman,i have always respected the anthem,and always stand and sing it until the end.I know the irish words to it,but i really dint know wat a lot of it translates to in english.Obviously i have a rough idea,but word for word i dont.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 28/07/2014 11:24:42    1627110

Sinne Fianna Fáil atá fé gheall ag Éirinn
shin-na fee-in-na fall, a-thaw fay yeol egg erin
Buion dár slua thar toinn do ráinig chugainn
bween dar slew, harr thin the raw ne gooin
Fémhóid bheith saor. Seantír ár sinsir feasta
Fway vawid veh sair, shawn-tier awr shinshir fasta
Ní fhagfar fé'n tiorán ná fé'n tráil
nee-owg fur fay teer-awn naw feign trawl
Anocht a théam sa bhearna bhaoil,
an nocht a hame saw varna vwail
Le gean ar Ghaeil chun báis nó saoil
lay gown owr gwale cunn boss no sale
Le guna screach fé lámhach na bpiléar,
le gunna sh-rake fay law buck naw bell air
Seo libh, canaídh Amhrán na bhFiann.
shull liv con-ig arawn naveen

FIRST VERSE:

Seo dhibh a cháirde duan oglaidh
Caithréimeach, br'oghmhar, ceolmhar.
ár dteinte cnámh go buacach táid,
`S an spéir go min réaltógach.
Is fionmhar faobhrach sinn chun gleo
'S go tiúnmhar glé roimh tigheacht do'n ló,
Fa ciúnas chaoimh na h-oidhche ar seol,
Seo libh, cana'dh amhrán na bhFiann.

SECOND VERSE:

Cois banta réidhe, ar árdaibh sléibhe.
Ba bhuadhach ár rinnsear romhainn,
Ag lámhach go tréan fá'n sár- bhrat séin
Tá thuas sa ghaoith go seolta;
Ba dhúthchas riamh d'ár gcine cháidh
Gan iompáil riar ó imirt áir,
'Siubhal mar iad i gcoinnibh rámhaid
Seo libh, canaidh amhrán na bhFiann.

THIRD VERSE:

A buidhean nach fann d'fuil Ghaoidheal is Gall
Sinn breacadh lae na saoirse,
Tá sgéimhle 's sgannradh ' gcroidhthibh namhad,
Roimh ranngaibh laochra ár dt're;
ár dteinte is tréith gan spréach anois,
Sin luinne ghlé san spéir anoir,
'S an b'odhbha i raon na bpiléar agaibh:
Seo libh, canaidh amhrán na bhFiann.

English translation

CHORUS:

Soldiers are we, whose lives are pledged to Ireland
Some have come from a land beyond the wave,
Sworn to be free,
no more our ancient sireland
Shall shelter the despot or the slave;
tonight we man the Bearna Baoghal
In Erin's cause.
come woe or weal;
'Mid cannon's roar and rifle's peal
We'll chant a soldier's song.







FIRST VERSE:

We'll sing a song, a soldier's song
With cheering, rousing chorus
As round our blazing fires we throng,
The starry heavens o'er us;
Impatient for the coming fight,
And as we wait the mornings light
here in the silence of the night
We'll chant a soldier's song.

SECOND VERSE:

In valley green or towering crag
Our fathers fought before us,
And conquered 'neath the same old flag
That's floating o'er us,
We're children of a fighting race
That never yet has known disgrace,
And as we march the foe to face,
We'll chant a soldier's song.

THIRD VERSE:

Sons of the Gael! Men of the Pale!
The Long watched day is breaking;
The serried ranks of Innisfail
Shall set the tyrant quaking.
Our camp fires now are burning low;
See in the east a silvery glow,
Out yonder waits the saxon foe,
So chant a soldier's song.
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s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5520 - 28/07/2014 11:29:08    1627119

It's time for a change lads. It no longer represents where Ireland is.
It's similar to the English National Anthem. Nothing disrespectful about change.
That Anthem would still be part of our history.

Nick (Wexford) - Posts: 1100 - 28/07/2014 11:35:18    1627128

Nothing more disrespectful to the Anthem then playing before a game with a couple of hundred in attendance and knowing caring.

For me it deserves more respect than that, it should be preserved for Finals only imo.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13796 - 28/07/2014 11:36:20    1627129