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Did anyone have a chance to read Colm article on rural clubs recently. What do Meath county board to address these issue.
They impose levy on clubs with no sense of fairness or balance.
Senior: €6,000 per annum (€500 per month)
Intermediate: €4,800 per annum (€400 per month)
Junior: €3,600 per annum (€300 per month)
We will take Trim and Ratoath for example who are both Senior Hurling and Football clubs in large population areas with huge membership numbers are only being asked to pay €500 and not €1000.
Whilst rural hurling clubs Kiltale and Killyon and football clubs Rathkenny and Ballinabrackey are asked to pay the same amount of €500. This not sustainable to look for €6000 euro from small rural clubs with low membership numbers that have to survive with their own fundraisers.
Its has a real feel of everyone must pay the kings taxes.
Rickoshay (Meath) - Posts: 51 - 08/12/2025 09:14:40
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Replying To Rickoshay: "Did anyone have a chance to read Colm article on rural clubs recently. What do Meath county board to address these issue.
They impose levy on clubs with no sense of fairness or balance.
Senior: €6,000 per annum (€500 per month)
Intermediate: €4,800 per annum (€400 per month)
Junior: €3,600 per annum (€300 per month)
We will take Trim and Ratoath for example who are both Senior Hurling and Football clubs in large population areas with huge membership numbers are only being asked to pay €500 and not €1000.
Whilst rural hurling clubs Kiltale and Killyon and football clubs Rathkenny and Ballinabrackey are asked to pay the same amount of €500. This not sustainable to look for €6000 euro from small rural clubs with low membership numbers that have to survive with their own fundraisers.
Its has a real feel of everyone must pay the kings taxes." Completely agree, should be connected to registered members or something, how the CC ask Small clubs like Meath Hill and Rathkenny to pay the same as Trim and ratoath is ridiculous, in many ways it sums up some of the taught process of the cc ( of lack of )
Meathfootball12 (Meath) - Posts: 48 - 08/12/2025 13:17:54
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Replying To Meathfootball12: "Completely agree, should be connected to registered members or something, how the CC ask Small clubs like Meath Hill and Rathkenny to pay the same as Trim and ratoath is ridiculous, in many ways it sums up some of the taught process of the cc ( of lack of )" I'm sure Mr. Ratoath Royal will have something to say about all of this.
Meathboyos86 (Meath) - Posts: 101 - 08/12/2025 14:06:38
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Replying To Meathboyos86: "I'm sure Mr. Ratoath Royal will have something to say about all of this." Do you have any opinions of your own? or are you just going to call out other users?
Meathfootball12 (Meath) - Posts: 48 - 08/12/2025 15:31:54
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Its just not sustainable for rural clubs.
The cost of running a club has skyrocketed in recent years and now the county board put more costs on top.
God forbid a club has to fork out for an outside manager as well if they aren't lucky enough to be able to appoint from within.
Tobefair80 (Meath) - Posts: 98 - 08/12/2025 15:59:41
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In my opinion the levy should apply in the same manner as the JP McManus fund was distributed. Each club, dual or otherwise was treated as a single unit. I would keep the €500 for Senior, €400 for Immediate and €300 for Junior.
As regards the reform of the hurling championships and the proposed similar reform of the football championships, I would abolish the Senior B, Inter B etc. Senior B is the second grade and therefore INTERMEDIATE. The remaining groups to be retitled accordingly.
As regards the Pairc Tailtean redevelopment there was an interesting article in last Saturday's Independent. A former Mayo Minor manager, JP Kean in an interview with Colm Keys cited figures relating to their pitch redevelopment. He, Kean claims that the county are "on the hook for €25,000 a month over a 30 year period" and that this outlay had resulted in "Poor investment in underage coaching, and particularly in coaching the kind of forwards that Mayo have missed over the last few decades to make the difference, was the outcome of the stadium absorbing so much revenue". The timeline and funds are very similar to those being imposed on our clubs.
So are our clubs, while in part 'rebuilding Pairc Tailtean' going to deprive our youth of coaching and facilities that may result on the top underage players not reaching their full potential? It is difficult to say, and hopefully it won't but Mr Kean's comments are worthy of consideration.
In a few years time I can see some clubs claiming "inability to pay".
MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1130 - 09/12/2025 20:29:35
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Replying To MillerX: "In my opinion the levy should apply in the same manner as the JP McManus fund was distributed. Each club, dual or otherwise was treated as a single unit. I would keep the €500 for Senior, €400 for Immediate and €300 for Junior.
As regards the reform of the hurling championships and the proposed similar reform of the football championships, I would abolish the Senior B, Inter B etc. Senior B is the second grade and therefore INTERMEDIATE. The remaining groups to be retitled accordingly.
As regards the Pairc Tailtean redevelopment there was an interesting article in last Saturday's Independent. A former Mayo Minor manager, JP Kean in an interview with Colm Keys cited figures relating to their pitch redevelopment. He, Kean claims that the county are "on the hook for €25,000 a month over a 30 year period" and that this outlay had resulted in "Poor investment in underage coaching, and particularly in coaching the kind of forwards that Mayo have missed over the last few decades to make the difference, was the outcome of the stadium absorbing so much revenue". The timeline and funds are very similar to those being imposed on our clubs.
So are our clubs, while in part 'rebuilding Pairc Tailtean' going to deprive our youth of coaching and facilities that may result on the top underage players not reaching their full potential? It is difficult to say, and hopefully it won't but Mr Kean's comments are worthy of consideration.
In a few years time I can see some clubs claiming "inability to pay"." How can you justify small rural clubs paying the same as big town clubs with far bigger playing numbers? It's like the age-old debate of splitting the bill, should John be expected to pay the same as Cathy, even though John had a glass of water and soup, yet Cathy ordered surf and turf over ther!!
Millerx its simple as
Meathfootball12 (Meath) - Posts: 48 - 09/12/2025 23:11:33
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Replying To MillerX: "In my opinion the levy should apply in the same manner as the JP McManus fund was distributed. Each club, dual or otherwise was treated as a single unit. I would keep the €500 for Senior, €400 for Immediate and €300 for Junior.
As regards the reform of the hurling championships and the proposed similar reform of the football championships, I would abolish the Senior B, Inter B etc. Senior B is the second grade and therefore INTERMEDIATE. The remaining groups to be retitled accordingly.
As regards the Pairc Tailtean redevelopment there was an interesting article in last Saturday's Independent. A former Mayo Minor manager, JP Kean in an interview with Colm Keys cited figures relating to their pitch redevelopment. He, Kean claims that the county are "on the hook for €25,000 a month over a 30 year period" and that this outlay had resulted in "Poor investment in underage coaching, and particularly in coaching the kind of forwards that Mayo have missed over the last few decades to make the difference, was the outcome of the stadium absorbing so much revenue". The timeline and funds are very similar to those being imposed on our clubs.
So are our clubs, while in part 'rebuilding Pairc Tailtean' going to deprive our youth of coaching and facilities that may result on the top underage players not reaching their full potential? It is difficult to say, and hopefully it won't but Mr Kean's comments are worthy of consideration.
In a few years time I can see some clubs claiming "inability to pay"." As long as the Keegan cup is reduced to 8 teams as I think is proposed I do t care what the 2nd grade is called be it Senior B or as in Dublin Senior 2 or like in Cork or Tipp Premier Intermediate
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Replying To numberedjerseys: "As long as the Keegan cup is reduced to 8 teams as I think is proposed I do t care what the 2nd grade is called be it Senior B or as in Dublin Senior 2 or like in Cork or Tipp Premier Intermediate" I would go to a senior championship of 12 teams, 8 teams is not enough but definitely agree 16 is too many.
2 groups of 6.
Each team guaranteed 5 matches.
Winners of groups straight into semis.
2nd and 3rd into quarters.
4th and 5th eliminated.
6th into relegation play off.
And a seeded draw also, eliminate potential groups of death.
thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 1136 - 10/12/2025 10:05:18
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Replying To Meathfootball12: "How can you justify small rural clubs paying the same as big town clubs with far bigger playing numbers? It's like the age-old debate of splitting the bill, should John be expected to pay the same as Cathy, even though John had a glass of water and soup, yet Cathy ordered surf and turf over ther!!
Millerx its simple as" I am not saying "small rural clubs" pay as much a big town clubs. Clubs pay according to grade.
However I am saying that dual clubs should not have to pay on the double. (Many rural clubs are dual clubs) and the county board themselves set this precedent when they were handing out the JP McManus funds a few years ago. Small rural clubs, large town clubs and small rural clubs all got the same.
Co Board cannot have it both ways.
MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1130 - 10/12/2025 20:46:14
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Replying To numberedjerseys: "As long as the Keegan cup is reduced to 8 teams as I think is proposed I do t care what the 2nd grade is called be it Senior B or as in Dublin Senior 2 or like in Cork or Tipp Premier Intermediate" What I am asking is: Will the county board levy the actual Senior clubs (The ones who will contest the Keegan Cup and the Jubilee Cup) the same Pairc Tailteann redevelopment fees as the clubs that contest the newly proposed Senior B championship?
Little things are important and especially so where money is concerned.
MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1130 - 10/12/2025 20:53:46
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Replying To thelutch: "I would go to a senior championship of 12 teams, 8 teams is not enough but definitely agree 16 is too many.
2 groups of 6.
Each team guaranteed 5 matches.
Winners of groups straight into semis.
2nd and 3rd into quarters.
4th and 5th eliminated.
6th into relegation play off.
And a seeded draw also, eliminate potential groups of death." I respect your opinions but I don't think 12 would improve the situation any especially going back to 5 games.
I think the desperate state of senior club football in Meath needs dramatic action
Even at 8 can anyone name 8 that have a genuine chance of winning a Keegan Cup, the reality is outside of Summerhill, ratoath, tones, dunboyne, with Don/ash, dunshaughlin, perhaps kells and skryne is very very slim and the best of these miles behind Dublin, Kildare and dare I say Westmeath '& Offaly clubs.
Take your own club who I'm sure you will admit getting close to the end of their Golden era , Meath Hill, Kilbride, Rathkenny and even the likes of seneschalstown and Cilles how they would benefit from playing Senior B competing well and in with a chance of progression by winning it and then going Senior.
I reckon Meath Hill and Kilbride would have great chance of stability following winning IFC and be better prepared for a move to the top grade
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I respect your views however I don't think any county has 8 teams capable of winning a championship at present.
The bordering counties bedside me
Offaly - Tullamore , maybe Edenderry Rhode ferbane.
Westmeath - The Downs , Loman's , maybe Kinnegad
Kildare - Athy and Naas , nobody else really threatening the last number of years.
But the beauty of the championship is sometimes anything can happen, don't forget Summerhill thought they were out of the championship only for kells to kick a two pointer with last kick of the game.
The standard of a few clubs I agree is better than our top clubs BUT only a few, We don't have a stand out club that is dominant and to be fair I think that's a good thing.
thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 1136 - 11/12/2025 10:34:00
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Replying To numberedjerseys: "I respect your opinions but I don't think 12 would improve the situation any especially going back to 5 games.
I think the desperate state of senior club football in Meath needs dramatic action
Even at 8 can anyone name 8 that have a genuine chance of winning a Keegan Cup, the reality is outside of Summerhill, ratoath, tones, dunboyne, with Don/ash, dunshaughlin, perhaps kells and skryne is very very slim and the best of these miles behind Dublin, Kildare and dare I say Westmeath '& Offaly clubs.
Take your own club who I'm sure you will admit getting close to the end of their Golden era , Meath Hill, Kilbride, Rathkenny and even the likes of seneschalstown and Cilles how they would benefit from playing Senior B competing well and in with a chance of progression by winning it and then going Senior.
I reckon Meath Hill and Kilbride would have great chance of stability following winning IFC and be better prepared for a move to the top grade" Ratoath bet rhode in 22 and Summerhill bet Tullamore in 23, so dont know how you came up with the idea that they are miles behind Offaly clubs.
Meathboyos86 (Meath) - Posts: 101 - 11/12/2025 13:10:44
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Replying To Meathboyos86: "Ratoath bet rhode in 22 and Summerhill bet Tullamore in 23, so dont know how you came up with the idea that they are miles behind Offaly clubs." Never said we were miles behind Offaly clubs.
thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 1136 - 11/12/2025 14:38:39
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Replying To thelutch: "Never said we were miles behind Offaly clubs." He wasn't replying to you...?
CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1712 - 11/12/2025 15:41:52
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Replying To thelutch: "Never said we were miles behind Offaly clubs." That's why I didn't reply to you
Meathboyos86 (Meath) - Posts: 101 - 11/12/2025 16:27:08
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