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Tomsmith Was Correct, Scrap The Two Points In Club Games Before All Hell Breaks Loose

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Tomsmith here I have said it before and I will say it agin this two pointed score will cause tremendous aggression in the Gaa game , I just pity the poor Referee that has to make a call on borderline cases where he is surrounded by players from both sides , he may not a have a neutral , linesman, and the umpires that the Clubs appoint are generally men who see things in a particular direction and I mean the direction the Ball is coming in from not where it was kicked from. I could name a few Clubs in some Counties that a wrong call could arouse a lot of passion after the final whistle The great Mrs T is with me all the way in this call she added it should be mandatory that all Clubs have V A R . What do you think ?? tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 4127 - 17/09/2025 20:20:43 2636618 Link
Replying To tomsmith: "Tomsmith here I have said it before and I will say it agin this two pointed score will cause tremendous aggression in the Gaa game , I just pity the poor Referee that has to make a call on borderline cases where he is surrounded by players from both sides , he may not a have a neutral , linesman, and the umpires that the Clubs appoint are generally men who see things in a particular direction and I mean the direction the Ball is coming in from not where it was kicked from. I could name a few Clubs in some Counties that a wrong call could arouse a lot of passion after the final whistle The great Mrs T is with me all the way in this call she added it should be mandatory that all Clubs have V A R . What do you think ??" Hi Tom, When this was mentioned on another thread, some posters pointed out that the rule works well in club football. Now I only attended one club game but the referee had 4 umpires and they implemented this rule pretty well. I didn't see any incorrect calls anyway. Perhaps the rule needs modification for scores inside the arc but at tight angles (I'm thinking of some of the points Stephen O'Neill scored for Tyrone in the past) but it seems to encourage attacking play. I think modification more than scrappage might be the answer? slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6627 - 18/09/2025 09:58:41 2636635 Link
Replying To slayer: "Hi Tom, When this was mentioned on another thread, some posters pointed out that the rule works well in club football. Now I only attended one club game but the referee had 4 umpires and they implemented this rule pretty well. I didn't see any incorrect calls anyway. Perhaps the rule needs modification for scores inside the arc but at tight angles (I'm thinking of some of the points Stephen O'Neill scored for Tyrone in the past) but it seems to encourage attacking play. I think modification more than scrappage might be the answer?" I've been at club matches at all grades and haven't seen any argument or dispute over these 2 pointers. Not saying it doesn't happen, but I haven't witnessed any dissent whatever. Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1968 - 18/09/2025 12:12:06 2636645 Link
I think scrapping the 2 point rule is actually quite a good idea the games already set up to suit forwards with 3 up. So if you keep the 3 up rule it will still be a faster game and encourage more people to go for goals which people also want. Definitely there are being and will be in the future games decided by incorrect calls with replays already being played due to incorrect scores. Lúla571210 (Louth) - Posts: 158 - 18/09/2025 15:59:38 2636695 Link
The ongoing case in Mayo is far from borderline…the scorer was a mile inside the arc. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11836 - 18/09/2025 20:20:54 2636716 Link
Replying To yew_tree: "The ongoing case in Mayo is far from borderline…the scorer was a mile inside the arc." Yew Tree Tomsmith here Yes he looked inside by a good bit and the score seems to stand tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 4127 - 22/09/2025 22:56:59 2637135 Link
Replying To tomsmith: "Yew Tree Tomsmith here Yes he looked inside by a good bit and the score seems to stand" Tomsmith here look at the handling in Fermanagh where protest was the order in the County final between Erne Gaels V Derrygonnelly over two pointers scored or alleged. To be scored. That won the game. Tomsmith said. Scrap. The two pointer right away tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 4127 - 29/11/2025 01:03:33 2646398 Link
Replying To yew_tree: "The ongoing case in Mayo is far from borderline…the scorer was a mile inside the arc." Id say the arc was the wrong size so !!!!! Thejampot (Leitrim) - Posts: 388 - 29/11/2025 12:20:24 2646417 Link
There was several other options easier to administrate.. Like a 4 or 5 point goal. Certainly no going backwards once cross the half way line until only again when inside the 20 meter line. The goal can not cross the half way line. This is so ridiculous looking. A player with a different colour shirt running around in the opposite end of the pitch. Of course the game should end when the hooter goes. Who comes up with some of this stuff ? Players playing keeps for 5 minutes and then kicking it over the side line. Other than that things have got better. O and forget about the mark.Belongs to another sport. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3224 - 04/12/2025 21:52:10 2647081 Link
Replying To Canuck: "There was several other options easier to administrate.. Like a 4 or 5 point goal. Certainly no going backwards once cross the half way line until only again when inside the 20 meter line. The goal can not cross the half way line. This is so ridiculous looking. A player with a different colour shirt running around in the opposite end of the pitch. Of course the game should end when the hooter goes. Who comes up with some of this stuff ? Players playing keeps for 5 minutes and then kicking it over the side line. Other than that things have got better. O and forget about the mark.Belongs to another sport." The 4 or 5 point goal solves nothing. The 2 pointer is about the blanket defence and encouraging teams to shoot from distance. The 3 up rule alone didnt fix that. Tadhg2020 (Limerick) - Posts: 20 - 06/12/2025 19:43:25 2647238 Link
Replying To Canuck: "There was several other options easier to administrate.. Like a 4 or 5 point goal. Certainly no going backwards once cross the half way line until only again when inside the 20 meter line. The goal can not cross the half way line. This is so ridiculous looking. A player with a different colour shirt running around in the opposite end of the pitch. Of course the game should end when the hooter goes. Who comes up with some of this stuff ? Players playing keeps for 5 minutes and then kicking it over the side line. Other than that things have got better. O and forget about the mark.Belongs to another sport." Canuck from WExford Tomsmith here from Cavan the home of Ulster football for many many years Canuck what would a 4 or 5 point Goal do to the game We won all Irelands up in Cavan when men were men , took a hit and give a hit. Now these players are rolling over on the ground like lads playing the beautiful game . I say leave the game alone . scrap the big ark, two pointed , moved it out beyond the 45 yard line . Sure currently its odious fields are like spiders webs with lines tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 4127 - 09/12/2025 15:02:14 2647662 Link
Replying To tomsmith: "Canuck from WExford Tomsmith here from Cavan the home of Ulster football for many many years Canuck what would a 4 or 5 point Goal do to the game We won all Irelands up in Cavan when men were men , took a hit and give a hit. Now these players are rolling over on the ground like lads playing the beautiful game . I say leave the game alone . scrap the big ark, two pointed , moved it out beyond the 45 yard line . Sure currently its odious fields are like spiders webs with lines" Bring back 17 aside and point posts and sideline throws.!! Seanfan (Roscommon) - Posts: 276 - 09/12/2025 16:05:23 2647678 Link
Replying To Seanfan: "Bring back 17 aside and point posts and sideline throws.!!" Seanfan Roscommon Tomsmith here I dont agree with 17 a side or throwing in the ball from the side-line. But I feel that once a Referee is on his own and he has to make call on a two pointer if player was outside the Ark ) I can see trouble for the poor Referee tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 4127 - 13/12/2025 21:30:09 2648271 Link