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Will they ever admit it? Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8170 - 16/07/2025 09:12:48 2625983 Link 4 |
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Sure he did it all by himself! With Dublin he had the biggest backroom team in history - with the FRC he enlisted some of the best GAA managers going. In both cases, I doubt they all just sat there looking at JIm Gavin while he dictated what was going to happen. tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1521 - 16/07/2025 10:15:44 2626006 Link 3 |
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Well actually I'm a hurling man through and through and couldnt bear to watch the boring rubbish gaelic football had become for most of the previous 20 years but this year I'm fully engrossed in the football championship. I've no problem admitting that the football championship has been infinitely more entertaining. Even heard Shane McGrath, ex-Tipp hurler and current RTE hurling pundit, say as much in an off the cuff remark on radio a couple of weeks ago. What's more -- and as a hurling man I never thought in a million years I would ever say this --- i think gaelic football is a better product than hurling at the moment and I expect this situation to continue into next year and in the years to come. My love of hurling has diminished quite a lot in recent years --- too many hurling people will brook no criticism of the game and for me the game is being tarnished by current interpretation and application of the handpass. I dont think anyone can deny that a large percentage of handpasses APPEAR to be throws. If they appear to be throws they should be whistled as throws -- if a CLEAR STRIKING ACTION by the hand and separation of ball from hand is not visible to the naked eye it should be called a foul. But of course we are told it's just the speed of execution that makes most of them appear to be throws and referees are afraid to call them as throws as tv pundits will highlight in slow motion replays of incidents where technically they call it wrong. As a Kilkenny man said to me recently when we were discussing this , either change the rule and allow throwing of the sliotar all the time or apply the rule as written and call any handpass that APPEARS to be a throw as a foul. Gaelic football has faced up to its issues and has developed into a wonderful product as a result of the new rules. I wish hurling would do the same. PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 2058 - 16/07/2025 11:29:32 2626023 Link 1 |
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When you have "hurling men" telling themselves and everyone else for decades that their game is the best in the World.....
Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2546 - 16/07/2025 11:41:26 2626025 Link 0 |
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No way. Football has improved immeasurably this year, but it's still pretty boring for most of the game. Not many sports are played at such a slow pace these days, half the players are walking around the pitch when they receive the ball. A few nice tight finishes are good to watch, but teams can and do just play keep-ball to wind down the clock. flack (Dublin) - Posts: 1055 - 16/07/2025 12:00:43 2626030 Link 1 |
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Nothing to do with Jim Gavin, if anything he was one of the people responsible for football going backwards. Was it Jim who coached his players to handpass the ball to one another until they got to within 14 yards from goal where they couldn't miss? Now it's coming back to haunt them as Dublin can't score from 30 yards.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2390 - 16/07/2025 12:20:32 2626036 Link 4 |
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Thank you jim Michaelbeag (Roscommon) - Posts: 7 - 16/07/2025 12:25:57 2626039 Link 1 |
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This year has been the first year in many that I've had any interest in football as a sport. The game I was excited about as a child / teenager has been reinvigorated. The excitement has come back. There should be a statue put up of Jim Gavin outside Croke Park. Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1429 - 16/07/2025 12:48:46 2626044 Link 1 |
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Yes well done to the FRC and Jim Gavin for heading it up, don't forget they had our own Michael Murphy onboard to develop the new rules, the man helps invents a new game to suit himself, then comes out of retirement to play it and then win another All Ireland medal for himself, lol it will be a hell of a story if it happens! Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3357 - 16/07/2025 13:29:36 2626061 Link 3 |
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Yawn....
bloodandbandage (Cork) - Posts: 428 - 16/07/2025 15:52:04 2626118 Link 2 |
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But it is.
Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2433 - 16/07/2025 18:23:20 2626149 Link 0 |
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Yhea football has improved a lot this year and Hurling not quite as good as recent years but lets not get carried away.The 2 Hurling semi finals gave us a terrific Game between Tipp and KK and a magical Cork in the other,while we had the 2 very average football games.No football Game matched Limerick v Cork or Clare v Cork so the GAA has again two good sports but the small ball still way ahead.
jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1752 - 16/07/2025 19:28:45 2626160 Link 1 |
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The bar was so low and the game so awful to watch for nearly 20 years, anything would be an improvement . skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1114 - 16/07/2025 19:30:38 2626162 Link 0 |
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The FRC should remain in some capacity. If for any reason more positive changes are needed in the future, there should be some mechanism for voting in changes as an exception to the usual 5 year rule. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 9004 - 16/07/2025 21:10:43 2626171 Link 0 |
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Onion_Sack (Dublin) - Posts: 337 - 16/07/2025 21:39:41 2626174 Link 0 |
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Gaelic football has improved as a spectacle, however both sports are noncomparable, leaving the game of hurling undoubtably the master of all field sports across the world therefore Jim Gavin is incorrect. supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3205 - 17/07/2025 09:04:20 2626213 Link 1 |
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I never really got the obsession with comparing hurling with football. Two vastly different sports. Hurling is way more helter-skelter than football and there are more one-on-one duals to win possession. Each to their own. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9898 - 17/07/2025 09:53:21 2626220 Link 2 |
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Whatever about Michael Murphy, his appeal is dwarfed by the appeal of David Clifford. The guy is a joy to watch and when he's in full flow, is impossible to mark. The fact that 2 footballing teams are contesting all Ireland makes it a desirable spectacle for the neutral. As for hurling, the goal getting prowess of both Cork and Tipp will make for an intriguing spectacle!
Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 576 - 17/07/2025 10:16:13 2626225 Link 1 |
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Well said.
slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6490 - 17/07/2025 13:52:59 2626251 Link 0 |
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This kinda reasonable rationale is zero craic, tho!
Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8170 - 17/07/2025 14:46:24 2626269 Link 0 |