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Replying To farneyman1:  "Monaghan won a quarter final in 2023 against Armagh after coming through a preliminary quarter final against Kildare."
Correct. It's only Galway who have made an All-Ireland final after coming through a preliminary quarter.
We've only had 2 years of the format so far though, so it's not much of a sample size.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2399 - 16/06/2025 15:08:30    2618344

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "I think Monaghan will lose their next game, and everyone else will win."
Have Monaghan at 40/1. In to 18/1 now. I think they are being greatly under-estimated. Sole loss narrowly to Donegal. I reckon they will make it to semi final at least.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3635 - 16/06/2025 15:31:35    2618362

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I have to say, while still not perfect, I do like most of the new rules in football. The game is now much more watchable imo. That said, it must be nigh on impossible to fully police the 2 point scoring rule. I've witnessed more than one occasion where a player's striking boot is inside the 40m arc although most of the rest of him is outside. Who makes the initial call to award 2 points? Does the ref signal the umpire to put up the orange flag? Unlike our soccer friends, Gaelic football doesn't yet have the "benefit" of Value Added Referee or whatever its called.
One other thing, I think a special medal should be struck for the first player to score a goal from outside the 40m arc. An award of 4 points is not enough.

Maroonatic (Galway) - Posts: 1069 - 16/06/2025 15:33:36    2618365

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "I think Monaghan will lose their next game, and everyone else will win."
I think your a week ahead of yourself?

Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 595 - 16/06/2025 15:38:37    2618367

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Replying To Maroonatic:  "I have to say, while still not perfect, I do like most of the new rules in football. The game is now much more watchable imo. That said, it must be nigh on impossible to fully police the 2 point scoring rule. I've witnessed more than one occasion where a player's striking boot is inside the 40m arc although most of the rest of him is outside. Who makes the initial call to award 2 points? Does the ref signal the umpire to put up the orange flag? Unlike our soccer friends, Gaelic football doesn't yet have the "benefit" of Value Added Referee or whatever its called.
One other thing, I think a special medal should be struck for the first player to score a goal from outside the 40m arc. An award of 4 points is not enough."
The ref signals the umpire indeed by putting both hands up. From what I've seen, the ref goes off where the grounded boot is as it's a real judgement to see where the striking boot is.

Goals outside 40m arc still only 3 points no bonus for those. That's a fair point though they might have to look at that!

systematic (Galway) - Posts: 198 - 16/06/2025 15:54:53    2618382

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Replying To Maroonatic:  "I have to say, while still not perfect, I do like most of the new rules in football. The game is now much more watchable imo. That said, it must be nigh on impossible to fully police the 2 point scoring rule. I've witnessed more than one occasion where a player's striking boot is inside the 40m arc although most of the rest of him is outside. Who makes the initial call to award 2 points? Does the ref signal the umpire to put up the orange flag? Unlike our soccer friends, Gaelic football doesn't yet have the "benefit" of Value Added Referee or whatever its called.
One other thing, I think a special medal should be struck for the first player to score a goal from outside the 40m arc. An award of 4 points is not enough."
It has made a huge difference. Haven't watched as much football in years.

Only quibble I have is the movement of the ball to 21 for frees other end of pitch for technical infringements. Some of which over weekend were dubious in my eyes and they were mostly neutral.

It is disproportionate but that's minor I suppose given the improvement. Some epics already and the actual knockouts from now on are certain to produce classics.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3635 - 16/06/2025 16:05:19    2618392

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Replying To ponger:  "Why didn't they top their groups then if they're at the peak of their powers??"
Sarcasm lad

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12409 - 16/06/2025 16:46:03    2618421

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Replying To systematic:  "The ref signals the umpire indeed by putting both hands up. From what I've seen, the ref goes off where the grounded boot is as it's a real judgement to see where the striking boot is.

Goals outside 40m arc still only 3 points no bonus for those. That's a fair point though they might have to look at that!"
According to an article, somewhere on an RTE website, by Kevin McDaid a lecturer in Dundalk IT it is 4 but who's to say he's correct.

Maroonatic (Galway) - Posts: 1069 - 16/06/2025 16:51:19    2618423

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Replying To Breffni40:  "Sarcasm lad"
hook line and sinker

ponger (Cavan) - Posts: 584 - 16/06/2025 17:07:35    2618437

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Replying To Scenicparish:  "I think your a week ahead of yourself?"
I know what's happening , and when. Couldn't resist reciprocating the vote of no confidence to the Monaghan poster though.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4239 - 16/06/2025 17:59:59    2618467

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "It has made a huge difference. Haven't watched as much football in years.

Only quibble I have is the movement of the ball to 21 for frees other end of pitch for technical infringements. Some of which over weekend were dubious in my eyes and they were mostly neutral.

It is disproportionate but that's minor I suppose given the improvement. Some epics already and the actual knockouts from now on are certain to produce classics."
Yeh get rid of that and the 2 pointer

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8787 - 16/06/2025 18:53:31    2618485

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Replying To realdub:  "Yeh get rid of that and the 2 pointer"
That's not going anywhere

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2446 - 16/06/2025 21:48:23    2618512

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "That's not going anywhere"
I fear you're right

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8787 - 16/06/2025 22:35:56    2618529

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Hell for Leather on Monday nights. Great show.

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GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8102 - 16/06/2025 22:37:52    2618530

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "I know what's happening , and when. Couldn't resist reciprocating the vote of no confidence to the Monaghan poster though."
You need to let the rest of us know when your doing that? Ha

Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 595 - 16/06/2025 22:56:17    2618539

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Replying To realdub:  "Yeh get rid of that and the 2 pointer"
Why would ya get rid of the 2 pointer? It's being the stand out addition in changing the game for the better.

francie81 (Louth) - Posts: 242 - 17/06/2025 01:30:52    2618564

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "That's not going anywhere"
The moving of the ball forward for slight infringements after a player catches the ball in midfield is nothing short of embarrassing in what's supposed to be a contact sport… Those in the FRC now realise their error and this will be binned… no doubt about it… 2 pointers are also up for debate and certain changes will happen here too… Handing the ball back is another embarrassing aspect of our game and needs to go… even the women don't have to do that in their games… what's wrong with placing the ball on the ground after an infringement..? The game has improved greatly as a spectacle because of some of the changes but others have turned it into a bit of a laughing stock.. Drop some of the silly childish ones and everything will be fine…!

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 4083 - 17/06/2025 07:15:23    2618573

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Replying To francie81:  "Why would ya get rid of the 2 pointer? It's being the stand out addition in changing the game for the better."
I don't mind the two pointer rom play. That keeps defence from falling back and adds to the excitement. Bit like 3 pointer in basketball.

It is the disproportionate penalty of moving the ball up for technical offences - some by no means obvious - to either the 21 for a tap over or the centre of the arc which is as good as tap over with even a moderate breeze at back. That might be looked at again. Maybe a short 5 minute sin bin for blatant impeding?

But minor quibbles.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3635 - 17/06/2025 08:50:35    2618582

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Replying To francie81:  "Why would ya get rid of the 2 pointer? It's being the stand out addition in changing the game for the better."
I agree. While I wasn't a fan initially, I think it's has had a big part to play in keeping the scoreboard moving, keeping unpredictability in terms of the outcome. Last year and before, a game of a 5/6 point gap could be a done deal after 20 mins. Now, a team might win a free and kick a 2 pointer. Suddenly it's game on. Between that and the 12 man behind maximum, it's definitely brought the soul of the game back. Games are still very intense but they're full of flair, creativity and uncertainty. I think it's magic.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1459 - 17/06/2025 10:29:53    2618614

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "I agree. While I wasn't a fan initially, I think it's has had a big part to play in keeping the scoreboard moving, keeping unpredictability in terms of the outcome. Last year and before, a game of a 5/6 point gap could be a done deal after 20 mins. Now, a team might win a free and kick a 2 pointer. Suddenly it's game on. Between that and the 12 man behind maximum, it's definitely brought the soul of the game back. Games are still very intense but they're full of flair, creativity and uncertainty. I think it's magic."
Definitely. The football this year has been a breath of fresh air. The other big impact has been from the longer kickouts. It has created way more contests for possession and reduced instances of slow build-up from the back.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2399 - 17/06/2025 10:49:05    2618622

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