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Replying To omahant: "@That would leave prelim qfinals as something like the below Armagh v Down Louth v Dublin Meath v Mayo Tyrone v Roscommon tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1349 - 01/05/2025 That's the Dubs doing a "three strikes and they are in"? Isn't it hard enough to bounce them on a one-off day?" Dublin unlike others have won all All Irelands route one, no second chance. As it should be in championship. Ought to be goid with rest of losers now. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3512 - 01/05/2025 16:14:56 2606074 Link
Replying To FullOfPorter: "You are being very generous to your neighbours! Cork in better form than us at the moment. Are the prelims an open draw of 2nds v 3rds or are they pre determined by groups as in your example? Group 1 2nd place play Group 2 3rd etc?" 2nd place v 3rd place from whichever group and 2nd placed team at home. Drax_the_destroyer (UK) - Posts: 428 - 01/05/2025 16:49:29 2606084 Link
If this year's draw was applied in next year's format of 8 provincial finalists drawn at home against 8 qualifiers, it could look something like: ROUND 1 Donegal v Tyrone Kerry v Roscommon Meath v Monaghan Mayo v Dublin Galway v Cavan Louth v Cork Clare v Down Armagh v Derry * Note: Just taken higher ranked league teams as provincial winners for example purposes and for exaggeration purposes paired runners up with those classified as "Seed 4" this year. ROUND 2A Donegal v Kerry Meath v Mayo Galway v Louth Down v Armagh * Note: For the Round 2A draw after Round 1 - it seems provincial winners could clash in Round 2A depending on luck or bad luck of the draw. ROUND 2B Tyrone v Derry Roscommon v Clare Monaghan v Cork Dublin v Cavan ROUND 3 2A losers v 2B winners. QUARTER FINALS 2A winners v R3 winners. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8773 - 01/05/2025 20:45:38 2606125 Link
handy group for the kingdom men. CorkLiamMcCarthy24 (Cork) - Posts: 159 - 01/05/2025 21:29:28 2606136 Link
Replying To WanPintWin: "That's one part of it, but the other is that the Connacht winners will be paired again with the Ulster runner up. 3 years running. The Ulster final loser is guaranteed to be much much stronger than the Leinster and Munster loser every year. One easy solution would have been to rotate the provinces for the 1st and 2nd seeds. It would have been much fairer." I have to agree with you. brayballer (Wicklow) - Posts: 54 - 01/05/2025 22:21:43 2606146 Link
Replying To WanPintWin: "That's one part of it, but the other is that the Connacht winners will be paired again with the Ulster runner up. 3 years running. The Ulster final loser is guaranteed to be much much stronger than the Leinster and Munster loser every year. One easy solution would have been to rotate the provinces for the 1st and 2nd seeds. It would have been much fairer." This should be changed and rotated from next year. Good point in fairness. Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4229 - 02/05/2025 08:56:09 2606192 Link
Replying To Fionn: "This should be changed and rotated from next year. Good point in fairness." The groups are gone next year. There going to a 'university challenge' style format, where 2 wins out of 2or3 games will advance you from the last 16 to the last 8, and knockout from there I assume. Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4127 - 02/05/2025 10:53:48 2606224 Link
Replying To Pope_Benedict: "The groups are gone next year. There going to a 'university challenge' style format, where 2 wins out of 2or3 games will advance you from the last 16 to the last 8, and knockout from there I assume." It's as if they wanted to give us the mother of all shockers of a draw as a parting gift from this awful format. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2318 - 02/05/2025 13:04:45 2606269 Link
Three years in a row there has been complaining about staging the All Ireland draw before the provincial finals. GAA HQ plough on regardless! :-D The main reason is because Round 1 is played over two weekends. Connacht and Munster finalists play two weeks after their final. League qualifiers need to know are they playing the first or second weekend of Round 1 fixtures. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8773 - 03/05/2025 08:18:46 2606382 Link
Replying To WanPintWin: "It's as if they wanted to give us the mother of all shockers of a draw as a parting gift from this awful format." There is something amiss when a losing provincial finalist probably gets an easier group than the winner. CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3901 - 03/05/2025 11:18:19 2606395 Link
Replying To CiarraiMick: "There is something amiss when a losing provincial finalist probably gets an easier group than the winner." Not only that, but teams who got knocked out earlier in their provincial championships got even easier draws. Roscommon and Monaghan ended up with much better groups that Galway, Mayo, Donegal and Armagh. As I said, one simple measure would have been to rotate the provincial winner and runner up pairings. That way, we wouldn't have the Connacht winner playing the Ulster runner up 3 years in a row. There's plenty else they could have done too in terms of the seedings. It's all moot now anyway. This format is finishing this year. But if you compare the path to reach an All-Ireland for some teams versus others, it's ridiculously lopsided. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2318 - 03/05/2025 11:31:41 2606400 Link
Replying To CiarraiMick: "There is something amiss when a losing provincial finalist probably gets an easier group than the winner." It'll be worse next year! A provincial champion could draw the highest ranked league qualifier in Round 1 and their provincial rival who they defeat in the final could draw the lowest ranked league qualifier in Round 1. GAA HQ and logic?!! legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8773 - 03/05/2025 12:23:09 2606407 Link
Replying To WanPintWin: "Not only that, but teams who got knocked out earlier in their provincial championships got even easier draws. Roscommon and Monaghan ended up with much better groups that Galway, Mayo, Donegal and Armagh. As I said, one simple measure would have been to rotate the provincial winner and runner up pairings. That way, we wouldn't have the Connacht winner playing the Ulster runner up 3 years in a row. There's plenty else they could have done too in terms of the seedings. It's all moot now anyway. This format is finishing this year. But if you compare the path to reach an All-Ireland for some teams versus others, it's ridiculously lopsided." You are so correct.Its shambolic tbh.I know its hard to figure out all the scenarios but its ridiculous the way the draw has panned out. CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3901 - 03/05/2025 13:48:33 2606418 Link

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