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Replying To ORIELMAN85:  "Walter Mitty the tight Cavan gassoon. Has now a problem understanding Englush. He gets so frustrated reading posts, he replies to stuff I never mentioned. Though maybe I will now put basketball ahead of hurling as I have just returned from the Garden after watching à game of unbelievable skill between Boston and New York. Really makes hurling skills look a little mundane. At the atmosphere with 19,000+ in attendance compare with any of the Munster venues.. As for new football rules,I dont know if they have improved the game for the knowledgable fan but they have made it more like outdoor basketball. As for the new structure, if it does eventually come in it will be a one year wonderand then gone never to be heard of again."
Outdoor basketball without a shot clock though, which is where most of the boredom can set in imo. I'm sure traditionalists aren't at all pleasured either by these horrible 2or3 minute keepball routines to run down the end of game clock past the 'hooter'. Must have a sort of death row feel those last few minutes for losing fans, compared to the excitement of waiting for the final whistle back in the harum scarum days, when lads weren't drilled to death on the value and understanding of possession.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4141 - 13/05/2025 11:53:01    2609155

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "Outdoor basketball without a shot clock though, which is where most of the boredom can set in imo. I'm sure traditionalists aren't at all pleasured either by these horrible 2or3 minute keepball routines to run down the end of game clock past the 'hooter'. Must have a sort of death row feel those last few minutes for losing fans, compared to the excitement of waiting for the final whistle back in the harum scarum days, when lads weren't drilled to death on the value and understanding of possession."
You are totally correct.. All these new rugger rules have totally diluted the game… 'tap and go'… kicking the ball out to end the game and passing the ball back outside the big circle for a rugger type drop at goal to gain 2 points and don't get me started on handing the ball back to your opponent who can then tap and go… run straight into you and away goes the referee with the ball under his arm for 50 meters…!!! I fully can understand that something had to be done to improve the total dross we had for years but this numpty FRC have gone way too far with their changes….less is always better as they say

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3856 - 13/05/2025 13:16:03    2609202

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "Outdoor basketball without a shot clock though, which is where most of the boredom can set in imo. I'm sure traditionalists aren't at all pleasured either by these horrible 2or3 minute keepball routines to run down the end of game clock past the 'hooter'. Must have a sort of death row feel those last few minutes for losing fans, compared to the excitement of waiting for the final whistle back in the harum scarum days, when lads weren't drilled to death on the value and understanding of possession."
I don't know one person who has a problem with the new clock system . Not one player or coach. Why do we always care so much for the lads on the couch who are never happy anyway.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8385 - 13/05/2025 16:45:25    2609295

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "Outdoor basketball without a shot clock though, which is where most of the boredom can set in imo. I'm sure traditionalists aren't at all pleasured either by these horrible 2or3 minute keepball routines to run down the end of game clock past the 'hooter'. Must have a sort of death row feel those last few minutes for losing fans, compared to the excitement of waiting for the final whistle back in the harum scarum days, when lads weren't drilled to death on the value and understanding of possession."
I don't agree. It makes for very exciting and tense finishes and it means everyone knows when the end is and it's not dependent on the whim of a referee. There is great skill and risk in maintaining possession like that and it's the job of the losing team to take the risk themselves and push up and press. Louth's final point on Sunday was a fine example of a team using a period of possession to engineer an excellent score.

CeachtPeile (Cavan) - Posts: 137 - 13/05/2025 18:43:29    2609332

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "You are totally correct.. All these new rugger rules have totally diluted the game… 'tap and go'… kicking the ball out to end the game and passing the ball back outside the big circle for a rugger type drop at goal to gain 2 points and don't get me started on handing the ball back to your opponent who can then tap and go… run straight into you and away goes the referee with the ball under his arm for 50 meters…!!! I fully can understand that something had to be done to improve the total dross we had for years but this numpty FRC have gone way too far with their changes….less is always better as they say"
I think the FRC has done an excellent job. The clampdown on dissent has been a great success and when you see how much dissent there now is in hurling, the same approach should be adopted there.

I am not a particular fan of the 2-point score but I think it's probably here to stay. But I strongly think the goal needs to go back to 4 points, as was originally planned, to maintain its relative value. It was an unnecessarily panicked move to change it back to 3 after the interprovincials.

I do think there's an argument for making the goal be worth 4 points in both football and hurling. The ease and speed with which long range points can be scored by the top players in hurling has devalued the worth of a goal. It might be better to do that simultaneously for both and avoid any confusion by having different values in the two sports.

CeachtPeile (Cavan) - Posts: 137 - 13/05/2025 18:45:32    2609334

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Replying To CeachtPeile:  "I think the FRC has done an excellent job. The clampdown on dissent has been a great success and when you see how much dissent there now is in hurling, the same approach should be adopted there.

I am not a particular fan of the 2-point score but I think it's probably here to stay. But I strongly think the goal needs to go back to 4 points, as was originally planned, to maintain its relative value. It was an unnecessarily panicked move to change it back to 3 after the interprovincials.

I do think there's an argument for making the goal be worth 4 points in both football and hurling. The ease and speed with which long range points can be scored by the top players in hurling has devalued the worth of a goal. It might be better to do that simultaneously for both and avoid any confusion by having different values in the two sports."
What has the 2 point rule brought to the game..? Nothing only now for people wanting goals worth 4 points… such utter nonsense… Revert to points been worth 1… and just leave the goals alone.. The nonsense about the goalkeeper getting a touch to the ball to reduce it to 1 point even if it was kicked from well outside the arc just makes a mockery of the whole thing… The FRC have not done an excellent job.. they went way over the top with half of these nonsensical rules…

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3856 - 13/05/2025 22:27:08    2609392

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