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Is There A Workable Solution To Limiting Handpasses In Football?

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Some geniuses on here. So if a team is trying to work a goal against a defensive team using 2 or 3 handpasses in a row we should stop that happening? Great stuff lads.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8222 - 31/01/2025 14:44:24    2588643

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Replying To legendzxix:  "Maybe it is the solution. If handpassing is such a blight, maybe such a draconian measure is the only option. Consecutive hops are not allowed. Consecutive handpasses not allowed possibly is the only option.
I think soloing the ball should reset the count but whether that is implementable or not...
When a player receives from a handpass and goes on a solo run, seems restrictive not to allow that player handpass. Player 1 without even a solo handpasses to Player 2, Player 2 should at least solo before handpassing off. Soloing is a foot action. Solo and go has come in. It shouldn't be too difficult for a referee to track two players not at least soloing?"
Ease it a little -
Two consecutive hand passes allowed EITHER SIDE of a 20-metre kick pass ?
I still like your 3rd use of hand for a potential score (palm or punch, but not allowing the ball to be caught).

omahant (USA) - Posts: 3022 - 31/01/2025 14:52:45    2588645

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Replying To legendzxix:  "Maybe it is the solution. If handpassing is such a blight, maybe such a draconian measure is the only option. Consecutive hops are not allowed. Consecutive handpasses not allowed possibly is the only option.
I think soloing the ball should reset the count but whether that is implementable or not...
When a player receives from a handpass and goes on a solo run, seems restrictive not to allow that player handpass. Player 1 without even a solo handpasses to Player 2, Player 2 should at least solo before handpassing off. Soloing is a foot action. Solo and go has come in. It shouldn't be too difficult for a referee to track two players not at least soloing?"
Jesus lads. Cringe stuff.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8222 - 31/01/2025 15:14:34    2588650

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "To be honest I'm not all that perturbed about there being more handpasses than kick passes. Maybe it's just me, and the way I was brought up here in Donegal where we've traditionally played a fast through-the-hands game.

I agree that the monotonous over and back hand passing is a tough watch. But when you see a nice fast attack built through quick hand passing, slicing through a defence & resulting in a score, it's just as exciting as a long, direct, diagonal ball played inside early resulting in a score.


I remember some years ago Donegal played Fermanagh in the Ulster Championship. Donegal ripped through their defence with a flurry of quick handpasses on two occasions, and Odhran MacNiallais brilliantly finished off two goals.

https://youtu.be/AS9AviO-oYg?si=Y-an4PFhwbGxuLy_

I can't find a clip of the other goal. But it was similarly set up with intricate fast hand passes and he blasted into the top corner via the cross bar."
I agree I've no problem with handpassing once it is used to speed up attacks. Left field maybe, but how about you can only handpass the ball forwards, like the opposite of rugby?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14443 - 31/01/2025 15:46:13    2588655

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Of course every player in all sports wants to win but the rot set in when the GAA chose to turn a blind eye to coaches and managers all over the country getting paid…. All club and county football destroyed because of paid coaches wanting to justify their under the table payments… The big wigs turned a blind eye and now want the rules to be drastically changed as nobody was arsed to pay in and witness the rubbish on show….while in the meantime the paid managerial merry go round continues at a pace… Revenue really needs to get a hold of this runaway train"
So negative tactics are purely a result of managers being paid? I'm a lad puts up some pretty out there ideas, but that's a fair leap even by my standards :-D

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14443 - 31/01/2025 15:47:54    2588657

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "Some geniuses on here. So if a team is trying to work a goal against a defensive team using 2 or 3 handpasses in a row we should stop that happening? Great stuff lads."
Ahem. Is There A Workable Solution To Limiting Handpasses In Football?

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8462 - 31/01/2025 15:48:22    2588658

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3 very simple things

Closed fist only with a clear striking action- no use of the holding hand for momentum

No hand-passes behind your 45m line if you have brought the ball back in to that area. It would encourage teams to press up, force defending teams to move the ball quickly, and is easy to police.

Also, no scores off the hand allowed. Any punched score from a ball in flight, the ball must have been kicked not hand-passed across

Too late for all this however, as the people have, seemingly, spoken

Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1132 - 31/01/2025 15:55:20    2588661

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Replying To Eddie the Exile:  "3 very simple things

Closed fist only with a clear striking action- no use of the holding hand for momentum

No hand-passes behind your 45m line if you have brought the ball back in to that area. It would encourage teams to press up, force defending teams to move the ball quickly, and is easy to police.

Also, no scores off the hand allowed. Any punched score from a ball in flight, the ball must have been kicked not hand-passed across

Too late for all this however, as the people have, seemingly, spoken"
On the topic of - Is There A Workable Solution To Limiting Handpasses In Football?
Endless passing around the 45m is excessive. Is it practical to limit handpassing between both 45s?
As mentioned previously, the one-two at least wants to be catered for. Someone makes the fair point then of incisive handpassing for creating goal opportunities.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8462 - 31/01/2025 16:27:01    2588667

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Replying To legendzxix:  "Ahem. Is There A Workable Solution To Limiting Handpasses In Football?"
Why don't you address the flaw i pointed out? Or better yet why don't people stop posting daft stuff that are only half baked ideas that only create other problems.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8222 - 31/01/2025 16:33:25    2588668

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Replying To Viking66:  "So negative tactics are purely a result of managers being paid? I'm a lad puts up some pretty out there ideas, but that's a fair leap even by my standards :-D"
Yes paid managers lead to cautious negative no risk tactics that have blighted our game… Other teams just copy the same rubbish so you end up with stalemate…. your 6pts to 5 outcome which nobody can stomach… Hopefully some of these new rules will do something to save the game but it should never have come to this in what's supposed to be an amateur sport…!

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3371 - 31/01/2025 16:44:46    2588669

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Replying To Viking66:  "So negative tactics are purely a result of managers being paid? I'm a lad puts up some pretty out there ideas, but that's a fair leap even by my standards :-D"
I would say 90 per cent of club managers barely get enough to cover their mileage. I can speak for myself and the majority of local managers i come across. This idea of club managers all getting decent money is way overblown. Of course it happens but it's not the norm.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8222 - 31/01/2025 16:49:06    2588670

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Replying To Eddie the Exile:  "3 very simple things

Closed fist only with a clear striking action- no use of the holding hand for momentum

No hand-passes behind your 45m line if you have brought the ball back in to that area. It would encourage teams to press up, force defending teams to move the ball quickly, and is easy to police.

Also, no scores off the hand allowed. Any punched score from a ball in flight, the ball must have been kicked not hand-passed across

Too late for all this however, as the people have, seemingly, spoken"
Thank God it's too late… Once hand passes go forward I don't see any reason for complaining… it's when passes continuously go backwards people get frustrated… This is all got to do with coaches demanding that players hold possession and not to take any risks that might result in loosing the ball.. It simply leads to a boring possession game that crowds have turned their back on in their thousands… Any game that players are not allowed express themselves and take risks with their passing is not a game at all….

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3371 - 31/01/2025 16:53:46    2588672

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Replying To Eddie the Exile:  "3 very simple things

Closed fist only with a clear striking action- no use of the holding hand for momentum

No hand-passes behind your 45m line if you have brought the ball back in to that area. It would encourage teams to press up, force defending teams to move the ball quickly, and is easy to police.

Also, no scores off the hand allowed. Any punched score from a ball in flight, the ball must have been kicked not hand-passed across

Too late for all this however, as the people have, seemingly, spoken"
Thank God it's too late… Once hand passes go forward I don't see any reason for complaining… it's when passes continuously go backwards people get frustrated… This is all got to do with coaches demanding that players hold possession and not to take any risks that might result in loosing the ball.. It simply leads to a boring possession game that crowds have turned their back on in their thousands… Any game that players are not allowed express themselves and take risks with their passing is not a game at all….

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3371 - 31/01/2025 16:53:54    2588673

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Yes paid managers lead to cautious negative no risk tactics that have blighted our game… Other teams just copy the same rubbish so you end up with stalemate…. your 6pts to 5 outcome which nobody can stomach… Hopefully some of these new rules will do something to save the game but it should never have come to this in what's supposed to be an amateur sport…!"
Absolutely nothing to do with paid managers. They all want to win at all costs.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8222 - 31/01/2025 17:41:36    2588679

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "Absolutely nothing to do with paid managers. They all want to win at all costs."
Absolutely everything to do with it… The huge outlay by CB's to management teams all over the country is scandalous…. the same is going on at club level which leads to win at all costs tactics which in turn has led to negative tactics that is a blight on the game… simple really…

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3371 - 31/01/2025 18:21:19    2588685

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Absolutely everything to do with it… The huge outlay by CB's to management teams all over the country is scandalous…. the same is going on at club level which leads to win at all costs tactics which in turn has led to negative tactics that is a blight on the game… simple really…"
I could give you a county championship with no outside managers getting big money and the goal will be the same. Win the championship even if the tactics are negative. Simple really.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8222 - 31/01/2025 21:12:32    2588695

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