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The D - Do We Need It

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With the new rules, Do we need the D in Gaelic football anymore, can it be removed and just have the 40-meter arc?

Yvrjd (Galway) - Posts: 4 - 25/01/2025 19:59:36    2587500

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Replying To Yvrjd:  "With the new rules, Do we need the D in Gaelic football anymore, can it be removed and just have the 40-meter arc?"
D was introduced for penalties aka mick Lyon's incursion on Keith Barr penalty miss many moons ago, I wonder do we need the 45 mtr line anymore with the 40 Mtr arc , just move the 45s up to the arc

royler (Meath) - Posts: 279 - 25/01/2025 21:18:34    2587512

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Replying To Yvrjd:  "With the new rules, Do we need the D in Gaelic football anymore, can it be removed and just have the 40-meter arc?"
That would mean players would be 40 metres out for a penalty! Too far out in my opinion so I think we do need it.

One thing though is there's too many markings on the pitch now. The broken half way line looks ridiculous. It actually needs to be a solid line with the new rule and the 45 and 65 should be broken lines as precise calls don't need to be made they're only used a guide for placed balls.

Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1447 - 25/01/2025 21:20:21    2587513

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Replying To Yvrjd:  "With the new rules, Do we need the D in Gaelic football anymore, can it be removed and just have the 40-meter arc?"
Needed for Penalties?

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2052 - 25/01/2025 21:31:27    2587516

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Needed for Penalties?"
Does the poster not mean keep the like 21 meter line but get rid of the small semi circle? And is it not the 13 metre for pens?

TalkToFahy (Tyrone) - Posts: 33 - 25/01/2025 21:45:43    2587523

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Replying To Onion Breath:  "That would mean players would be 40 metres out for a penalty! Too far out in my opinion so I think we do need it.

One thing though is there's too many markings on the pitch now. The broken half way line looks ridiculous. It actually needs to be a solid line with the new rule and the 45 and 65 should be broken lines as precise calls don't need to be made they're only used a guide for placed balls."
Is the 45 not also used for judging where a ball is kicked from for an inside mark?

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5238 - 25/01/2025 23:11:37    2587545

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Pitch markings more like grid iron or rugby these days…. Gaelic football has totally lost its true self… An utter shame….

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3403 - 26/01/2025 00:04:52    2587548

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Replying To Onion Breath:  "That would mean players would be 40 metres out for a penalty! Too far out in my opinion so I think we do need it.

One thing though is there's too many markings on the pitch now. The broken half way line looks ridiculous. It actually needs to be a solid line with the new rule and the 45 and 65 should be broken lines as precise calls don't need to be made they're only used a guide for placed balls."
A bit of tidying up could be to split the 45-65 difference, putting two 55s instead. This could lengthen the 45m kick by 10m. In lieu of a '65', hurling could use its own 55, which would be about a '90' instead.

omahant (USA) - Posts: 3035 - 26/01/2025 04:16:30    2587560

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Replying To TalkToFahy:  "Does the poster not mean keep the like 21 meter line but get rid of the small semi circle? And is it not the 13 metre for pens?"
Yes, this is what I meant, should have explained a little better.

Yvrjd (Galway) - Posts: 4 - 26/01/2025 07:35:27    2587565

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Replying To omahant:  "A bit of tidying up could be to split the 45-65 difference, putting two 55s instead. This could lengthen the 45m kick by 10m. In lieu of a '65', hurling could use its own 55, which would be about a '90' instead."
That's a silly idea. A 55 in Football would be overly tough, and a 55 in hurling would be too easy.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14477 - 26/01/2025 09:07:17    2587575

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Replying To Viking66:  "That's a silly idea. A 55 in Football would be overly tough, and a 55 in hurling would be too easy."
Agree

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 563 - 26/01/2025 14:52:45    2587684

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Pitch markings more like grid iron or rugby these days…. Gaelic football has totally lost its true self… An utter shame…."
Cracking matches in the league today much to your chagrin

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1991 - 26/01/2025 17:40:42    2587731

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Replying To Viking66:  "That's a silly idea. A 55 in Football would be overly tough, and a 55 in hurling would be too easy."
Think you missed the bit where he said that in hurling, the shot would be taken from your own 55, That'd generally be about 85 to 90 metres from the goal you're shooting into, depending obviously on the exact length of the pitch.

There might actually be some merit to the idea. Way back in the day, when they were first introduced, a 45 and a 65 (or a 50 and a 70, as they were known then) weren't intended to be scoring opportunities. Instead, they were intended as an opportunity to re-start an attack, after your previous one ended by a defender knocking the ball over his own endline.

Trying to knock a ball in from 55m in football or up to 90m in hurling would be difficult for an Under-14 player though, so some tweaking would still be needed.

Anyway, wouldn't call it a silly idea, but would still consider it unlikely.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2672 - 27/01/2025 09:18:37    2587831

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Cracking matches in the league today much to your chagrin"
You mustn't say the Galway/Armagh game… pure rubbish just like the All Ireland Final… Overall games were more open which is what we want to see but some of the rules are plain silly and will lead to chaos in club games… When the games get serious teams will still be defence minded and hold onto possession hand passing over and back… The dreaded paid coach will still find a way don't worry about that….

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3403 - 27/01/2025 10:15:11    2587836

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Think you missed the bit where he said that in hurling, the shot would be taken from your own 55, That'd generally be about 85 to 90 metres from the goal you're shooting into, depending obviously on the exact length of the pitch.

There might actually be some merit to the idea. Way back in the day, when they were first introduced, a 45 and a 65 (or a 50 and a 70, as they were known then) weren't intended to be scoring opportunities. Instead, they were intended as an opportunity to re-start an attack, after your previous one ended by a defender knocking the ball over his own endline.

Trying to knock a ball in from 55m in football or up to 90m in hurling would be difficult for an Under-14 player though, so some tweaking would still be needed.

Anyway, wouldn't call it a silly idea, but would still consider it unlikely."
Actually it's a good Idea, regarding football at underage level and possibly club level, the 40 meter arc could be used as the new "45s" and 55 line for county level. All county teams have plenty lads who can kick 60+ meters.

Tirchonailabu56 (Donegal) - Posts: 27 - 03/02/2025 12:12:25    2589177

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Replying To Yvrjd:  "With the new rules, Do we need the D in Gaelic football anymore, can it be removed and just have the 40-meter arc?"
It's not needed in Gaelic football anymore but the same pitches are used for hurling where it is needed.

Kerry15 (Kerry) - Posts: 976 - 03/02/2025 13:37:26    2589202

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