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Replying To alwaysasub:  "Farcical stuff in Intermediate a. I just seen a post form wexford gaa. So Glynn decided to give a walkover to Oylegate as they couldnt get through in their last game, with the Geraldines already pulling out of the championship in the same group so they could be relegated. Firstly Glynn should have played the game but anyways they didnt so I see Wexford GAA have put up a post to explain how teams will be decided where they finish. You'd expect this kind of stuff in Junior B but not Intermediate A. To me shows a lack of respect for the football championship"
Glynn-Barntown were also supposed to have a team in Junior 'A' Football this year, but pulled out before the championship started. That's why there's only five teams in one of the groups there. They're the ones who'll be automatically relegated from that grade.

I don't know how true this is, but I've heard they're blaming Electric Picnic for not being able to field a team on Thursday evening. It doesn't even start until Friday, but apparently they're saying some lads are going up early. Sweet Divine. The fixtures committee leave all Friday, all Saturday, and all of Sunday free of matches to accommodate people who want to to EP, and it seems that's still not enough!!!

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3045 - 27/08/2025 23:49:51    2633875

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Replying To Viking66:  "GB didn't have enough players to fulfil the fixture. 13 only."
Hard to know what's going on in that club, then.

They fielded three football teams (Senior, Intermediate 'A', and Junior 'A') throughout last year's championship, which means they must have had at least 50 active players. Now they can't even field a second team.

Also, there were 22 players named in the programme for the last Intermediate 'A' match they did play this year. So now there are NINE of them missing for this evening, and they can't get back a couple of others who must have played last year either, for the sake of fulfilling the fixture?

I strongly suspect that if they'd won a couple of the matches they played this year, instead of losing all three and not being able to finish any higher than fifth anyway, then they'd have rounded up a team for this evening all right.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3045 - 28/08/2025 10:29:12    2633892

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Glynn-Barntown were also supposed to have a team in Junior 'A' Football this year, but pulled out before the championship started. That's why there's only five teams in one of the groups there. They're the ones who'll be automatically relegated from that grade.

I don't know how true this is, but I've heard they're blaming Electric Picnic for not being able to field a team on Thursday evening. It doesn't even start until Friday, but apparently they're saying some lads are going up early. Sweet Divine. The fixtures committee leave all Friday, all Saturday, and all of Sunday free of matches to accommodate people who want to to EP, and it seems that's still not enough!!!"
That's exactly what I heard also and that's happened in my own club previously, games moved to the Thursday and still lads didn't show.

As you say they pulled out of Junior A football which would have been their 3rd team. So at one stage they were thinking we have enough to field 3 teams and now their 2nd team are giving walkovers cos the weekend off isn't enough!!

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1559 - 28/08/2025 10:47:26    2633898

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Glynn-Barntown were also supposed to have a team in Junior 'A' Football this year, but pulled out before the championship started. That's why there's only five teams in one of the groups there. They're the ones who'll be automatically relegated from that grade.

I don't know how true this is, but I've heard they're blaming Electric Picnic for not being able to field a team on Thursday evening. It doesn't even start until Friday, but apparently they're saying some lads are going up early. Sweet Divine. The fixtures committee leave all Friday, all Saturday, and all of Sunday free of matches to accommodate people who want to to EP, and it seems that's still not enough!!!"
I m hearing lot of hurling managers telling their players they are not allowed go to EP . I can understand it but for god sake they don't own the players.
I hope they dont drive lads away from the gaa .
You have to put your trust in the lads that they look after themselves if they don't these same lads are as likely to overdo it locally as they would be at a festival .
A week to recover and most of the work done let them off and show them respect and trust .

Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 427 - 28/08/2025 10:57:34    2633901

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Hard to know what's going on in that club, then.

They fielded three football teams (Senior, Intermediate 'A', and Junior 'A') throughout last year's championship, which means they must have had at least 50 active players. Now they can't even field a second team.

Also, there were 22 players named in the programme for the last Intermediate 'A' match they did play this year. So now there are NINE of them missing for this evening, and they can't get back a couple of others who must have played last year either, for the sake of fulfilling the fixture?

I strongly suspect that if they'd won a couple of the matches they played this year, instead of losing all three and not being able to finish any higher than fifth anyway, then they'd have rounded up a team for this evening all right."
I'd be guessing so too.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16953 - 28/08/2025 12:09:18    2633912

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Replying To Formertownie:  "I m hearing lot of hurling managers telling their players they are not allowed go to EP . I can understand it but for god sake they don't own the players.
I hope they dont drive lads away from the gaa .
You have to put your trust in the lads that they look after themselves if they don't these same lads are as likely to overdo it locally as they would be at a festival .
A week to recover and most of the work done let them off and show them respect and trust ."
Haven't heard of any managers saying that.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16953 - 28/08/2025 12:10:25    2633913

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Replying To Formertownie:  "I m hearing lot of hurling managers telling their players they are not allowed go to EP . I can understand it but for god sake they don't own the players.
I hope they dont drive lads away from the gaa .
You have to put your trust in the lads that they look after themselves if they don't these same lads are as likely to overdo it locally as they would be at a festival .
A week to recover and most of the work done let them off and show them respect and trust ."
Yep ive heard that too and this is my issue with the whole thing and what I've alluded to previously.

The problem isn't havjng the break, the problem isn't EP and the problem isn't players who want to go to EP.

The problem is managers being granted this type of power to begin with and clubs allowing it to happen. The arguments put on here have centred around managers and managers taking this approach so a break weekend is needed. My argument has always been this is simply just avoiding the problem rather than addressing the actual problem, that actual problem being managers being allowed this control and power.

And here we are, break weekend in place and guess what, still the same issues because the actual problem isn't being addressed.

Genuinely can't understand why this approach is tolerated.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1559 - 28/08/2025 12:18:55    2633916

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Replying To tearintom:  "Yep ive heard that too and this is my issue with the whole thing and what I've alluded to previously.

The problem isn't havjng the break, the problem isn't EP and the problem isn't players who want to go to EP.

The problem is managers being granted this type of power to begin with and clubs allowing it to happen. The arguments put on here have centred around managers and managers taking this approach so a break weekend is needed. My argument has always been this is simply just avoiding the problem rather than addressing the actual problem, that actual problem being managers being allowed this control and power.

And here we are, break weekend in place and guess what, still the same issues because the actual problem isn't being addressed.

Genuinely can't understand why this approach is tolerated."
Here's an alternate view:

Next weekend is Round 5 of the Hurling Championships. Despite all the faults of the "everyone goes through anyway" system, you could have a crucial match coming up to determine if you can finish in the top two and skip the preliminary quarter-finals, or get up to fourth place and avoid the threat of relegation.

You've got a free weekend this week to get in a good practice match, or an extended training session to work on gameplay plans, do video analysis, etc.

If you have genuine ambitions of doing well in the championship, does it not stand to reason that you'd like your players to be committed enough to stick around to be part of that, rather than going off to drink pints in a field?

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3045 - 28/08/2025 15:02:22    2633948

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Hard to know what's going on in that club, then.

They fielded three football teams (Senior, Intermediate 'A', and Junior 'A') throughout last year's championship, which means they must have had at least 50 active players. Now they can't even field a second team.

Also, there were 22 players named in the programme for the last Intermediate 'A' match they did play this year. So now there are NINE of them missing for this evening, and they can't get back a couple of others who must have played last year either, for the sake of fulfilling the fixture?

I strongly suspect that if they'd won a couple of the matches they played this year, instead of losing all three and not being able to finish any higher than fifth anyway, then they'd have rounded up a team for this evening all right."
They only have 4 lads going to EP. They have a crucial Senior hurling fixture coming up, and 30 lads on that panel. Training for a crucial upcoming Senior hurling game was deemed more important by most of the players than playing a dead rubber 2nd team Football game. GB can't make a QF in IntermediateA football, and can't be relegated.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16953 - 28/08/2025 16:18:49    2633963

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Replying To Viking66:  "Haven't heard of any managers saying that."
It is 100% happening. Lads threatened to be dropped for the next hurling round if they go.

Fallout2 (Wexford) - Posts: 11 - 28/08/2025 16:23:29    2633964

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Replying To Fallout2:  "It is 100% happening. Lads threatened to be dropped for the next hurling round if they go."
How hard will those lads play for those managers going forwards?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16953 - 28/08/2025 17:06:00    2633976

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Here's an alternate view:

Next weekend is Round 5 of the Hurling Championships. Despite all the faults of the "everyone goes through anyway" system, you could have a crucial match coming up to determine if you can finish in the top two and skip the preliminary quarter-finals, or get up to fourth place and avoid the threat of relegation.

You've got a free weekend this week to get in a good practice match, or an extended training session to work on gameplay plans, do video analysis, etc.

If you have genuine ambitions of doing well in the championship, does it not stand to reason that you'd like your players to be committed enough to stick around to be part of that, rather than going off to drink pints in a field?"
What was the point of our Board giving this weekend off then? And it's more than just "drinking pints in a field". It's the biggest Festival of its type in the country. 80000 people.
How good would the practice game be when some of the starters off both teams are going to be in Stradbally? And alot of managers are avoiding practice games at this stage of the season for fear of injuries.
And every team will have had 4 days this week and 4 days next week to do training, video analysis etc. That's twice as many days as managers would have ordinarily.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16953 - 28/08/2025 17:14:52    2633980

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Here's an alternate view:

Next weekend is Round 5 of the Hurling Championships. Despite all the faults of the "everyone goes through anyway" system, you could have a crucial match coming up to determine if you can finish in the top two and skip the preliminary quarter-finals, or get up to fourth place and avoid the threat of relegation.

You've got a free weekend this week to get in a good practice match, or an extended training session to work on gameplay plans, do video analysis, etc.

If you have genuine ambitions of doing well in the championship, does it not stand to reason that you'd like your players to be committed enough to stick around to be part of that, rather than going off to drink pints in a field?"
And this leads into the urgent format changes we need to happen to bring jeopardy back into our club championships. Improve the quality and intensity of our championships. 6 team groups is an absolute farce. We need to go back to 4 groups of 4 like we used to have and Clare and Tipp have, or 4 groups of 3, or 3 groups of 4. Maybe a game or 2 less, but all of them meaningful.
We are under pressure to get all our games played, our fixtures people are under pressure both as regards referees and pitches, and getting rid of the groups of 6 would solve those problems also.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16953 - 28/08/2025 17:24:51    2633984

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Replying To Viking66:  "They only have 4 lads going to EP. They have a crucial Senior hurling fixture coming up, and 30 lads on that panel. Training for a crucial upcoming Senior hurling game was deemed more important by most of the players than playing a dead rubber 2nd team Football game. GB can't make a QF in IntermediateA football, and can't be relegated."
You seem to be making this specifically about Glynn-Barntown. I was just making the point in general. Not aware myself of any club where the manager expressly forbade players from going to EP, but making the point that depending on your own view, it stands to reason that a manager would prefer players to choose to be part of the build-up for a championship match rather than choose to go on a session.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3045 - 28/08/2025 17:41:00    2633986

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Sorry Viking, I thought you were replying to my post directly above yours, and not the one I posted earlier that actually was specifically about Glynn-Barntown. I should have looked more closely at what you were actually referring to!

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3045 - 28/08/2025 17:42:44    2633987

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