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I see NaP and Ballygunner is on GaaPlus this weekend
A good match to look forward to, I remember the last time they played in 2023 NaP really struggled to break them down and never got going
NaP have more or less the same team, 2 years older, but they seem to have recaptured some of the hunger and are peaking nicely with Peter Casey motoring and Conor Boylan who saved their bacon in the Limerick final. He could start but my guess is they will keep him as a sub to bring on when defenders get tired
Doon could have easily beat them in the final but then Doon are also a very good side.
Ballygunner have had the long break but they should be well used to that now
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Replying To Yadse: "I see NaP and Ballygunner is on GaaPlus this weekend
A good match to look forward to, I remember the last time they played in 2023 NaP really struggled to break them down and never got going
NaP have more or less the same team, 2 years older, but they seem to have recaptured some of the hunger and are peaking nicely with Peter Casey motoring and Conor Boylan who saved their bacon in the Limerick final. He could start but my guess is they will keep him as a sub to bring on when defenders get tired
Doon could have easily beat them in the final but then Doon are also a very good side.
Ballygunner have had the long break but they should be well used to that now" Has the makings of a cracker, both teams have serious squads but gunners got no resistance in Waterford championship it was far too easy for them.
Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2558 - 27/10/2025 16:06:40
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No idea of the reasons why on this one and not going to even try and speculate, but just to say as a Limerick fan I'm dissapointed that we won't get to see Seamus Flanagan play for Limerick next year. Only 28 and he's stood and delivered consistently on the biggest of days. Also himself and Gillane have probably been the best inside line partnership in the country over the past 8 years. Aidan O'Connor and Shane O'Brien are great prospects but if you compare their debut seasons with Seamus in 2018, the difference is night and day. Are the likes of Shane or Aidan even physically capable of covering the kind of ground and working as hard. In 2018 in the All Ireland i think i read that Seamus covered almost 15km. Also there was a bit of dog and fight in him which is always helpful in championship. The two guys I've mentioned might have more skill, but in terms of impacting the game they have a long way to go to emulate what Seamus was doing in the full forward line.
Personally I think the focus on this year should not be on a rebuild and giving youth a chance, it should be doing whatever it takes to win one more all Ireland before all these amazing group of players retire. We'll have a life time to rebuild once they are all retired and Kiely and Kinnerk step away.
Fitzy01 (Limerick) - Posts: 460 - 29/10/2025 11:05:48
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tough call on Seamus Flanagan
He is only 28, has 5 AIs as a starter, and is an amateur playing for his home county
Tough to be told you are no longer wanted and not going out on your own terms like say Hannon
Maybe he will come back, but good chance his intercounty career is over.
First of the 2018 team to be cut, all the others retired or were squad players (like Pat Ryan)
I dont think his comments over the summer about losing trust in management are why he was dropped, but you have to wonder if they showed where his head was at.
Limerick have plenty of good young forwards coming up but a fit and hungry Flanagan would be a big plus
I remember his 3-3 v Cork in a round robin game last year - a game we lost. But he had become a bit player
And no Dowling or Jason Gillane so presumably we will see a new keeper or two? Hanley Clarke is a lovely striker but is he an intercounty keeper? And I didnt see any outstanding keepers in the senior this year
Yadse (Limerick) - Posts: 208 - 29/10/2025 16:27:08
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Replying To Yadse: "tough call on Seamus Flanagan
He is only 28, has 5 AIs as a starter, and is an amateur playing for his home county
Tough to be told you are no longer wanted and not going out on your own terms like say Hannon
Maybe he will come back, but good chance his intercounty career is over.
First of the 2018 team to be cut, all the others retired or were squad players (like Pat Ryan)
I dont think his comments over the summer about losing trust in management are why he was dropped, but you have to wonder if they showed where his head was at.
Limerick have plenty of good young forwards coming up but a fit and hungry Flanagan would be a big plus
I remember his 3-3 v Cork in a round robin game last year - a game we lost. But he had become a bit player
And no Dowling or Jason Gillane so presumably we will see a new keeper or two? Hanley Clarke is a lovely striker but is he an intercounty keeper? And I didnt see any outstanding keepers in the senior this year" A shame to see Flanagan gone as I loved when he got on a roll especially his link up with Gillane was special at times. The Limerick crowd always responded to his scores especially the West Limerick fans but as you say a lot of young talented forwards there. I think O'Brien from Bruree, our u20 goalie last year, is the man to replace Nicky long term and it's good to see him on the panel for next year.
updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 913 - 30/10/2025 07:03:40
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Replying To Yadse: "tough call on Seamus Flanagan
He is only 28, has 5 AIs as a starter, and is an amateur playing for his home county
Tough to be told you are no longer wanted and not going out on your own terms like say Hannon
Maybe he will come back, but good chance his intercounty career is over.
First of the 2018 team to be cut, all the others retired or were squad players (like Pat Ryan)
I dont think his comments over the summer about losing trust in management are why he was dropped, but you have to wonder if they showed where his head was at.
Limerick have plenty of good young forwards coming up but a fit and hungry Flanagan would be a big plus
I remember his 3-3 v Cork in a round robin game last year - a game we lost. But he had become a bit player
And no Dowling or Jason Gillane so presumably we will see a new keeper or two? Hanley Clarke is a lovely striker but is he an intercounty keeper? And I didnt see any outstanding keepers in the senior this year" I agree it is very tough on Flanagan. The scores this man setup over the years was phenomenal. I think it is difficult to play him and Shane O'Brien in the same starting XV. Both make very similar runs. But both probably a perfect substitute for the other.
Part of me was glad to see the changes. Perhaps this is the little bit of ruthlessness needed in 2024 and 2025. Since losing to Cork in PuC in 2024 our invincibility has subsided. The Cork game was based on pace and direct running. It also seems to have been built solely to beat Limerick, with it coming up short against Clare and Tipperary. Maybe we are just going in a slightly different direction now.
I fully agree with Fitzy01. I'd prefer one shot at another title than huge overhaul. In my opinion there's without doubt one more all Ireland in this Management and team. I hope that these changes are tweaks to address what we fell short with in 2024 and 2025. If we could land another especially after the departure of an outstanding servant in Declan Hannon, it might just be the sweetest of the lot.
slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6621 - 30/10/2025 07:35:03
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Anyone have any idea who has been added to the panel?
LimerickandProud (Limerick) - Posts: 218 - 30/10/2025 09:51:29
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Replying To slayer: "I agree it is very tough on Flanagan. The scores this man setup over the years was phenomenal. I think it is difficult to play him and Shane O'Brien in the same starting XV. Both make very similar runs. But both probably a perfect substitute for the other.
Part of me was glad to see the changes. Perhaps this is the little bit of ruthlessness needed in 2024 and 2025. Since losing to Cork in PuC in 2024 our invincibility has subsided. The Cork game was based on pace and direct running. It also seems to have been built solely to beat Limerick, with it coming up short against Clare and Tipperary. Maybe we are just going in a slightly different direction now.
I fully agree with Fitzy01. I'd prefer one shot at another title than huge overhaul. In my opinion there's without doubt one more all Ireland in this Management and team. I hope that these changes are tweaks to address what we fell short with in 2024 and 2025. If we could land another especially after the departure of an outstanding servant in Declan Hannon, it might just be the sweetest of the lot." I just dont see them winning again without some bit of change
Pretty much every year they won they were missing a major player - Lynch, Hannon, Finn
Last year everybody was fit. OK, Hannon was coming back from injury but likely wouldn't have started anyway, DOD was coming back from injury but was in the match day panel at the end. Cathal O Neill perhaps was a loss
Ahead of the year Quaid looked like our "big injury" but his coming in was a huge boost.
Our most consistent player last year was Adam English - in what was to all intents and purposes his first year. He was the one v Dublin trying to drag us over the line
It really was set up for us last year
We destroyed Cork, exposing for others their frailty
But it seemed like that game took more out of us than it did Cork because after that game it was downhill
Hindsight is a great man, and they wanted to rest players and give squad members a run out, but the loss to Clare in the last game seemed to begin the rot.
Unlucky maybe in the Munster final but we threw away chances to win it, and Nickys fumble at the end was so uncharacteristic. And when the game was on the line.
Shane O Brien was a huge contributor but didnt play (or at least start) in the big games at the end. It was never asked or said if he was injured or if he wasn't trusted. Barry Nashs form declined the last few games but we turned to Declan Hannon and not Cathal Coughlan when things were not going well (not being critical here, clearly management thought he was a better option, but thats exactly my point, the 32 old returning from injury was seen as the man and not the 23 year old who has been around for 3 years now)
Its all well and good to say we can win again if the hunger returns. But what is more likely to happen this year? All the old guard push on one more time or 2-3 more go the Flanagan route and struggle?
Guys are starting families, looking to careers,
The only way we win is to have at least 2-3 more step up into leadership roles
Cathal O Neill, Colin Coughlan, Aidan O Connor, Shane O Brien, and English have to be the main men on the team next year. Not just starting but leading. Peter Casey and DOD will be like new players for us and did well in the County Championship. English could be the new Cian Lynch - we have seen those two working in tandem and if they can do that again, for one more year we have a great chance
But I think from a mental POV it has to be the new players leading and not the last hurrah of the old guard.
Its a huge ask, mentally and for man management from Kiely and his team. I think letting Flanagan go was a message to others that nobody's place is safe. I mean the squad hasn't even been announced but we do know who isnt in it but not who is.
Yadse (Limerick) - Posts: 208 - 31/10/2025 13:00:02
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Replying To Yadse: "I just dont see them winning again without some bit of change
Pretty much every year they won they were missing a major player - Lynch, Hannon, Finn
Last year everybody was fit. OK, Hannon was coming back from injury but likely wouldn't have started anyway, DOD was coming back from injury but was in the match day panel at the end. Cathal O Neill perhaps was a loss
Ahead of the year Quaid looked like our "big injury" but his coming in was a huge boost.
Our most consistent player last year was Adam English - in what was to all intents and purposes his first year. He was the one v Dublin trying to drag us over the line
It really was set up for us last year
We destroyed Cork, exposing for others their frailty
But it seemed like that game took more out of us than it did Cork because after that game it was downhill
Hindsight is a great man, and they wanted to rest players and give squad members a run out, but the loss to Clare in the last game seemed to begin the rot.
Unlucky maybe in the Munster final but we threw away chances to win it, and Nickys fumble at the end was so uncharacteristic. And when the game was on the line.
Shane O Brien was a huge contributor but didnt play (or at least start) in the big games at the end. It was never asked or said if he was injured or if he wasn't trusted. Barry Nashs form declined the last few games but we turned to Declan Hannon and not Cathal Coughlan when things were not going well (not being critical here, clearly management thought he was a better option, but thats exactly my point, the 32 old returning from injury was seen as the man and not the 23 year old who has been around for 3 years now)
Its all well and good to say we can win again if the hunger returns. But what is more likely to happen this year? All the old guard push on one more time or 2-3 more go the Flanagan route and struggle?
Guys are starting families, looking to careers,
The only way we win is to have at least 2-3 more step up into leadership roles
Cathal O Neill, Colin Coughlan, Aidan O Connor, Shane O Brien, and English have to be the main men on the team next year. Not just starting but leading. Peter Casey and DOD will be like new players for us and did well in the County Championship. English could be the new Cian Lynch - we have seen those two working in tandem and if they can do that again, for one more year we have a great chance
But I think from a mental POV it has to be the new players leading and not the last hurrah of the old guard.
Its a huge ask, mentally and for man management from Kiely and his team. I think letting Flanagan go was a message to others that nobody's place is safe. I mean the squad hasn't even been announced but we do know who isnt in it but not who is." Any word on Kyle Hayes and how his injury going.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4529 - 31/10/2025 22:13:43
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Replying To Yadse: "I just dont see them winning again without some bit of change
Pretty much every year they won they were missing a major player - Lynch, Hannon, Finn
Last year everybody was fit. OK, Hannon was coming back from injury but likely wouldn't have started anyway, DOD was coming back from injury but was in the match day panel at the end. Cathal O Neill perhaps was a loss
Ahead of the year Quaid looked like our "big injury" but his coming in was a huge boost.
Our most consistent player last year was Adam English - in what was to all intents and purposes his first year. He was the one v Dublin trying to drag us over the line
It really was set up for us last year
We destroyed Cork, exposing for others their frailty
But it seemed like that game took more out of us than it did Cork because after that game it was downhill
Hindsight is a great man, and they wanted to rest players and give squad members a run out, but the loss to Clare in the last game seemed to begin the rot.
Unlucky maybe in the Munster final but we threw away chances to win it, and Nickys fumble at the end was so uncharacteristic. And when the game was on the line.
Shane O Brien was a huge contributor but didnt play (or at least start) in the big games at the end. It was never asked or said if he was injured or if he wasn't trusted. Barry Nashs form declined the last few games but we turned to Declan Hannon and not Cathal Coughlan when things were not going well (not being critical here, clearly management thought he was a better option, but thats exactly my point, the 32 old returning from injury was seen as the man and not the 23 year old who has been around for 3 years now)
Its all well and good to say we can win again if the hunger returns. But what is more likely to happen this year? All the old guard push on one more time or 2-3 more go the Flanagan route and struggle?
Guys are starting families, looking to careers,
The only way we win is to have at least 2-3 more step up into leadership roles
Cathal O Neill, Colin Coughlan, Aidan O Connor, Shane O Brien, and English have to be the main men on the team next year. Not just starting but leading. Peter Casey and DOD will be like new players for us and did well in the County Championship. English could be the new Cian Lynch - we have seen those two working in tandem and if they can do that again, for one more year we have a great chance
But I think from a mental POV it has to be the new players leading and not the last hurrah of the old guard.
Its a huge ask, mentally and for man management from Kiely and his team. I think letting Flanagan go was a message to others that nobody's place is safe. I mean the squad hasn't even been announced but we do know who isnt in it but not who is." John Kiely was interviewed by TG4 the day of the Limerick club semi finals. He spoke of a review of the 2025 season that was still ongoing.
I've a lot of faith in this Management team and players. If everyone listened in the review then we are still the team to beat. We timed things perfectly in 2022 and 2023. We didn't in. 2024 and 2025.
I think we will do it in 2026. That's not sentimentality, it is looking at all the panels out there and thinking we still have it. The main threat is Tipperary. I don't see a team outside of these two winning it.
Bring it on.
slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6621 - 31/10/2025 22:39:58
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