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Replying To Fitzy01:  "What are ye normally described as?"
We do have some big players but most of our conversations are about lacking physicality in the forwards with the exception of chinner of course.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3462 - 24/03/2025 20:28:34    2598417

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Replying To Viking66:  "Small, both in terms of height and S and C. I dont think we have anyone taller than 6'1" except for Jacko.
Chin is big ok. Jippo has good size but didn't play during the League. He should be back for the championship. Jacko is big too but plays like a small man. Of the younger lads Ryan is tall, maybe 6'1" but slight, Conor Foley is strong for a 21 year old, Richie Lawlor is 6' but only 22, as are Molloy and Redmond. Clancy and Mike Kelly who came on as subs are both a little older, 23, and stronger, but that was the 1st time either played ever in the League. Think Hearne might be pushing 6' also, but is only 24/5 and not fully filled out. The Recks, Foley, Casey, Donohue are all 5'10" or less, as is Byrne who was suspended.
Mac will add a bit of strength up front when he comes back, but isn't a giant either. Dwyer is also strong, but has only played around 30 minutes of the League."
I don't know who told you Richie Lawlor is 6 foot. A very well conditioned chap but 5' 10 would be generous I'd say. I'm 6'3 and he's significantly shorter than me.

Conor Foley, Molloy, E Ryan, chinner and Jacko would be 6'1 or above.

The recks, Rory and hearne probably 6 foot even.

I'd say you're right about the rest

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3462 - 24/03/2025 21:29:51    2598431

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Replying To LimerickandProud:  "Your back six last Saturday will mix it with a lot of teams, and they cleaned out Limerick under the high ball and that includes Colin Coughlan, Tom Morrissey, Gearoid Hegarty, Shane O'Brien all of which are over well over 6 ft and well able to mind themselves normally. That's was my point"
Our back 6 Saturday night probably included 4 or 5 of our Championship starters. You would be hoping they would hold their own in a League game. None of them are 6'2" though. Around half of them aren't 6' even.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15258 - 24/03/2025 22:32:45    2598437

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Replying To LimerickandProud:  "Your back six last Saturday will mix it with a lot of teams, and they cleaned out Limerick under the high ball and that includes Colin Coughlan, Tom Morrissey, Gearoid Hegarty, Shane O'Brien all of which are over well over 6 ft and well able to mind themselves normally. That's was my point"
Sorry 3 of them are only 22 this year, the other 3 are mid 20s now, 24/5/6.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15258 - 24/03/2025 22:36:59    2598439

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "I don't know who told you Richie Lawlor is 6 foot. A very well conditioned chap but 5' 10 would be generous I'd say. I'm 6'3 and he's significantly shorter than me.

Conor Foley, Molloy, E Ryan, chinner and Jacko would be 6'1 or above.

The recks, Rory and hearne probably 6 foot even.

I'd say you're right about the rest"
The Recks aren't 6'. I was allowing I'm around 6' and Richie seemed about the same height as me.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15258 - 25/03/2025 09:40:53    2598488

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I honestly don't blame Offaly supporters for complaining about travelling to Cork. For Waterford to go to Nolan Park is no distance and gives the Offaly supporters a chance to travel. Why should they go all the way to Cork. Again it shows no respect for supporters. Waterford must be delighted because it gives them a meaningful game in Cork before they play there in the championship. However I don't think they would have any objections to going east respecting Offaly.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2992 - 25/03/2025 22:47:16    2598611

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Replying To Canuck:  "I honestly don't blame Offaly supporters for complaining about travelling to Cork. For Waterford to go to Nolan Park is no distance and gives the Offaly supporters a chance to travel. Why should they go all the way to Cork. Again it shows no respect for supporters. Waterford must be delighted because it gives them a meaningful game in Cork before they play there in the championship. However I don't think they would have any objections to going east respecting Offaly."
Makes perfect sense to play the DIV 1B final on Saturday week along with a lower division final as Eddie Brennan and John Mullane pointed out on the Irish Independent podcast. We in Wexford have been annoyed with choice of venues by the GAA ourselves given we have to travel to Thurles any year we make a quarter final and the ridiculous situation last year where the GAA scheduled our Quarter final the same day as the FEILE in Wexford

Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 482 - 26/03/2025 09:48:13    2598633

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Here everyone it's become blatantly obvious in the last few years,people organising fixtures in venues that make no since..Dublin/Clare in limerick,limerick//kk in cork..Wexford/Clare in cork..all Ireland quarters or league semis played in venues that just didn't look at all right..now Offaly travelling to cork on the same weekend that their under 20s playing Leinster championship..they don't care about supporters..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2486 - 26/03/2025 14:46:06    2598703

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "Here everyone it's become blatantly obvious in the last few years,people organising fixtures in venues that make no since..Dublin/Clare in limerick,limerick//kk in cork..Wexford/Clare in cork..all Ireland quarters or league semis played in venues that just didn't look at all right..now Offaly travelling to cork on the same weekend that their under 20s playing Leinster championship..they don't care about supporters.."
The debt on Páirc Uí Chaoimh has to be paid for.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2702 - 26/03/2025 16:59:29    2598727

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "The debt on Páirc Uí Chaoimh has to be paid for."
thats exactly right
Cork is not central for anybody, and so apart from home and away arrangements would get no games without being actively favored
Thats why they tried to play last years Munster final there until Clare agreed to Limerick
Although Limerick are on the record as saying they like playing there because of the quality of the surface

Yadse (Limerick) - Posts: 87 - 26/03/2025 19:48:35    2598758

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James Mahon loses his appeal and will miss the league final. Absolute farce.

liam500 (Wicklow) - Posts: 195 - 28/03/2025 15:29:06    2599091

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Replying To liam500:  "James Mahon loses his appeal and will miss the league final. Absolute farce."
A ridiculous decision imo. Players may be wary now of going in for any kind of physical challenge for fear of seeing red.

Unusedsub (Carlow) - Posts: 109 - 28/03/2025 16:25:34    2599101

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Oh my god I take it they trying to turn hurling to a form of tag with no contact..even the words used intent on injuring an opponent..basically they don't want to tell a ref and linesman they made huge mistakes..it sets us up for a very dodgy hurling year..it happened in cork/clare under 20 match aswell with a red cards given for something' that I couldn't even see frees in..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2486 - 28/03/2025 18:19:40    2599116

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "Oh my god I take it they trying to turn hurling to a form of tag with no contact..even the words used intent on injuring an opponent..basically they don't want to tell a ref and linesman they made huge mistakes..it sets us up for a very dodgy hurling year..it happened in cork/clare under 20 match aswell with a red cards given for something' that I couldn't even see frees in.."
We have referee controversies every year, and in the absence of VAR, the trend will continue. I don't see VAR being introduced to hurling in any way shape or form. The entertainment provided by hurling is still off the charts, and the skill, fitness levels continue to rise. The 2 best teams in the league contest the final next Sunday, and then we're in store for a rambunctious, exciting, competitive Munster championship!

Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 482 - 30/03/2025 15:08:12    2599458

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "The debt on Páirc Uí Chaoimh has to be paid for."
The renovation doesn't seem like a bad idea on retrospect. Cork now have a first class sports stadium which gets filled without difficulty by the resurgence of the hurling team. The cost of building now, would be considerably more due to inflation and cost of goods etc!

Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 482 - 30/03/2025 15:20:43    2599464

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Replying To Yadse:  "thats exactly right
Cork is not central for anybody, and so apart from home and away arrangements would get no games without being actively favored
Thats why they tried to play last years Munster final there until Clare agreed to Limerick
Although Limerick are on the record as saying they like playing there because of the quality of the surface"
It was definitely a mistake to host both league finals in Cork on same day. Cork/Tipp clash by itself would fill the Pairc, as was evidenced by the sellout hours after tickets became available. Offaly/Waterford should have been hosted at Nowlan Park allowing any supporters from Offaly/Waterford to see their team in a league final.

Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 482 - 30/03/2025 15:47:24    2599471

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Replying To Ryanteam:  "The renovation doesn't seem like a bad idea on retrospect. Cork now have a first class sports stadium which gets filled without difficulty by the resurgence of the hurling team. The cost of building now, would be considerably more due to inflation and cost of goods etc!"
That's fine for Cork. But my comment was to do with the amount of neutral games, not involving Cork being play at Páirc Uí Chaoimh. A lot of these games could be played elsewhere in grounds more convenient for the travelling fans. This is all down to the debt still to be paid, currently around €31m, of which €12m is owed to Croke Park.

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Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2702 - 30/03/2025 15:52:19    2599475

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "That's fine for Cork. But my comment was to do with the amount of neutral games, not involving Cork being play at Páirc Uí Chaoimh. A lot of these games could be played elsewhere in grounds more convenient for the travelling fans. This is all down to the debt still to be paid, currently around €31m, of which €12m is owed to Croke Park.

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Probably an aside at this point, but I often wondered about the feasibility of hosting All Ireland hurling finals outside Dublin. I have attended All Ireland hurling finals at Croke Park, where the native population has little or no interest in the proceedings. The 1984 All Ireland final between Cork and Offaly was hosted in Thurles due to centenary year, and the atmosphere was far superior.

Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 482 - 30/03/2025 16:13:43    2599481

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Replying To Ryanteam:  "
Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "That's fine for Cork. But my comment was to do with the amount of neutral games, not involving Cork being play at Páirc Uí Chaoimh. A lot of these games could be played elsewhere in grounds more convenient for the travelling fans. This is all down to the debt still to be paid, currently around €31m, of which €12m is owed to Croke Park.

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Probably an aside at this point, but I often wondered about the feasibility of hosting All Ireland hurling finals outside Dublin. I have attended All Ireland hurling finals at Croke Park, where the native population has little or no interest in the proceedings. The 1984 All Ireland final between Cork and Offaly was hosted in Thurles due to centenary year, and the atmosphere was far superior."
The hosting of the hurling AI outside of Croke Park is a non-starter. The final at Croke Park is a 82,000 sell out every year. Besides the history and tradition, no other stadium has a capacity anywhere near that.
The final is not just for the two competing counties, but for the whole GAA community. This usually means that the two finalists never get a sufficient ticket allocation, with plenty of neutral fans in attendance, which can effect the atmosphere.
45,000 in Thurles for a Munster final is a great atmosphere. I wouldn't mind seeing the Leinster Final being played in Thurles, but that will probably never happen. Better a 35K to 40K crowd in Thurles than in Croke Park.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2702 - 30/03/2025 19:08:07    2599526

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "
Replying To Ryanteam:  "[quote=Cockney_Cat:  "That's fine for Cork. But my comment was to do with the amount of neutral games, not involving Cork being play at Páirc Uí Chaoimh. A lot of these games could be played elsewhere in grounds more convenient for the travelling fans. This is all down to the debt still to be paid, currently around €31m, of which €12m is owed to Croke Park.

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Probably an aside at this point, but I often wondered about the feasibility of hosting All Ireland hurling finals outside Dublin. I have attended All Ireland hurling finals at Croke Park, where the native population has little or no interest in the proceedings. The 1984 All Ireland final between Cork and Offaly was hosted in Thurles due to centenary year, and the atmosphere was far superior."
The hosting of the hurling AI outside of Croke Park is a non-starter. The final at Croke Park is a 82,000 sell out every year. Besides the history and tradition, no other stadium has a capacity anywhere near that.
The final is not just for the two competing counties, but for the whole GAA community. This usually means that the two finalists never get a sufficient ticket allocation, with plenty of neutral fans in attendance, which can effect the atmosphere.
45,000 in Thurles for a Munster final is a great atmosphere. I wouldn't mind seeing the Leinster Final being played in Thurles, but that will probably never happen. Better a 35K to 40K crowd in Thurles than in Croke Park."]Depends who's in the Leinster final. There'll be 60k of we're in it

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3462 - 30/03/2025 20:23:48    2599551

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