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Think we made a lot of basic mistakes yesterday too but lordy they left it all on the field. That said we were not good enough to take on and get by on 1v1's which is needed at this level. Cormac O'Reilly done it a few times but then chose the wrong option. There is a little bit of panic in us rather than confidence when the real big pressure come on players. Playing the better teams does improve this

I'm sure its the end of a few on the panel. We badly need to find help around midfield. We spent most of the year shoring up midfield with half forwards and half backs. Crowe done his best and certainly improved but he needed more help.

Odd thoughts from yesterday
- Dont usually mention refs but we were hard done by yesterday. Wouldn't have changed the game much though
- Faulkner looked dangerous at full forward
- Not sure where Mcveety's best position is.. not getting the best out of him (although he is tightly marked)
- Brady was good in the goals. learn to ping the ball
- First time in fitzgerald stadium, a bit archaic. Suppose all the money buried in the center of excellence
- Killarney is bonkers of a Saturday night

ponger (Cavan) - Posts: 587 - 22/06/2025 16:50:26    2619912

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The only thoughts to take from Saturdays match in Killarney is that we were totally out of our depth.. 3 bad beatings in a row is hardly going to be beneficial to any team so it's no wonder that the GAA are dispensing with this ridiculous Championship format.. Good riddance to it

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 4234 - 23/06/2025 07:09:02    2620074

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "The only thoughts to take from Saturdays match in Killarney is that we were totally out of our depth.. 3 bad beatings in a row is hardly going to be beneficial to any team so it's no wonder that the GAA are dispensing with this ridiculous Championship format.. Good riddance to it"
How will that take mask over the issues ? So you just get 2 hammerings instead of one?

veterngaa (Monaghan) - Posts: 795 - 23/06/2025 12:21:09    2620232

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "The only thoughts to take from Saturdays match in Killarney is that we were totally out of our depth.. 3 bad beatings in a row is hardly going to be beneficial to any team so it's no wonder that the GAA are dispensing with this ridiculous Championship format.. Good riddance to it"
Not much wrong with the championship format just a pity that Mayo and not Cavan came through as they would give any team in ireland a run for their money Cavan although a division 2 team should be playing in the tailteann cup where we would be competitive

breffnibluewhite (Cavan) - Posts: 495 - 24/06/2025 09:47:31    2620551

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Replying To breffnibluewhite:  "Not much wrong with the championship format just a pity that Mayo and not Cavan came through as they would give any team in ireland a run for their money Cavan although a division 2 team should be playing in the tailteann cup where we would be competitive"
Agree with you 100% but the nonsensical championship format led to this scenario…. Gone for next year thank goodness

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 4234 - 24/06/2025 13:46:52    2620680

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Replying To ORIELMAN85:  "Are you Tom's/Vetrn twin brother. You sound a lot like him. I can assure you our season wont end like yours,so just soak it up."
Hard luck to all Monaghan supporters bar lads like yourself and Vetern/Tom. You showed good fight but were up against a better team. To all the lads peeping through the hedge at us throwing out insults, welcome back down to earth. Pick up your 'were the plucky underdogs of the year' medals at the toll booths on the way home.

KingdomofBreifne (Cavan) - Posts: 195 - 28/06/2025 17:39:24    2621776

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Replying To veterngaa:  "Hope yiz kept the car running .. back up the road early"
Hard luck Tom. Another year of nothing to show bar gloating at us.

KingdomofBreifne (Cavan) - Posts: 195 - 28/06/2025 17:40:45    2621778

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Replying To veterngaa:  "How will that take mask over the issues ? So you just get 2 hammerings instead of one?"
A group with not one division 1 team ...Clare division 3 ..down relegated division 3 and louth mid table division 2 ...found out today ...like way they all scurried out of cooker before second match ...

breffnibhoy (Cavan) - Posts: 34 - 28/06/2025 18:17:06    2621810

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lads. few of them would show us the same grace but you would have to hand it to meath yesterday. they really threw the shackles off and gave galway a lesson in direct ambitious football. the kingscourt man was worth the ticket alone. terrible thing to be secretly happy for an old rival. getting soft.

Creilly_Baby (Cavan) - Posts: 45 - 30/06/2025 09:44:24    2622497

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Replying To Creilly_Baby:  "lads. few of them would show us the same grace but you would have to hand it to meath yesterday. they really threw the shackles off and gave galway a lesson in direct ambitious football. the kingscourt man was worth the ticket alone. terrible thing to be secretly happy for an old rival. getting soft."
Yes they did well in what can only be described as a woeful game… There was light years in comparison to the quality of it and the second game

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 4234 - 30/06/2025 10:00:47    2622507

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It's hard to believe after how poor they finished the league. Corey and McMahon leaving midway through the year aswell. But they've now beaten Dublin Kerry and Galway. Matthew Costello is a class act

As for Cavan, looks like we played the best three teams in Ireland

Fiftyball (Cavan) - Posts: 3 - 30/06/2025 10:55:42    2622545

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I told the Donegal posters they struck gold getting Monaghan in the quarters and they didn't want to listen. They wouldn't have beaten any of the rest with a 6 day turnaround.

However, with 2 weeks break now, I do expect them to beat Meath (and win it out).

Meath have had a serious championship run tho. They'll kick themselves losing to Louth and not having silverware to show for it. That will come if Dublin get their managerial appointment wrong.

From our point of view, yes as said above, we've lost to the top 3 teams in the country this year, and beaten the league finalists on their own patch. We have quality in the squad but not consistency.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5298 - 01/07/2025 09:01:34    2622800

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Replying To cavanman47:  "I told the Donegal posters they struck gold getting Monaghan in the quarters and they didn't want to listen. They wouldn't have beaten any of the rest with a 6 day turnaround.

However, with 2 weeks break now, I do expect them to beat Meath (and win it out).

Meath have had a serious championship run tho. They'll kick themselves losing to Louth and not having silverware to show for it. That will come if Dublin get their managerial appointment wrong.

From our point of view, yes as said above, we've lost to the top 3 teams in the country this year, and beaten the league finalists on their own patch. We have quality in the squad but not consistency."
With the new rules it's easy for games to get away from you but we need to work on avoiding hammerings. We were susceptible to those with the previous rules too so something needs to be worked on. We're highly competitive against most teams but always a danger of a complete collapse against the Div 1 big boys. This would likely involve being more defensive per se and I don't think the cranks on here and elsewhere have the patience for that.

I don't see us hammering Tyrone, Donegal etc anytime in the near future but it seems to be the only thing that would make the loudest "fans" happy

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12440 - 01/07/2025 12:37:40    2622860

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Replying To Breffni40:  "With the new rules it's easy for games to get away from you but we need to work on avoiding hammerings. We were susceptible to those with the previous rules too so something needs to be worked on. We're highly competitive against most teams but always a danger of a complete collapse against the Div 1 big boys. This would likely involve being more defensive per se and I don't think the cranks on here and elsewhere have the patience for that.

I don't see us hammering Tyrone, Donegal etc anytime in the near future but it seems to be the only thing that would make the loudest "fans" happy"
Hammering Tyrone or Donegal…? I know you said that in jest Breffni40 but I would settle for being competitive against either… I do realise we have a mental block when it comes to Tyrone and we seem to be beaten long before the game starts but this has to change… All we can hope for now is a sustained run in Division 2 which would be great but next season won't be easy as there will be some strong sides in that division….

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 4234 - 01/07/2025 13:53:51    2622878

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Replying To Breffni40:  "With the new rules it's easy for games to get away from you but we need to work on avoiding hammerings. We were susceptible to those with the previous rules too so something needs to be worked on. We're highly competitive against most teams but always a danger of a complete collapse against the Div 1 big boys. This would likely involve being more defensive per se and I don't think the cranks on here and elsewhere have the patience for that.

I don't see us hammering Tyrone, Donegal etc anytime in the near future but it seems to be the only thing that would make the loudest "fans" happy"
I'd agree we should be better able to avoid hammering.

There's a level in us that means on our day, we can beat a top team (meaning we enter all games with some level of hope) and there seems to be a mental block or issue there that sets in when it looks like we ain't winning. The wheels completely come off.


As for the cranks on here. . .
Mickey Graham essentially stepped down due to discontent following an Ulster Championship loss to Armagh in 2023. 13 months later, Armagh were All Ireland champions.

Our Championship (ulster and All Ireland) losses over the past 8 seasons have all been to what would at the time have been considered a top 5 side, with Roscommon 2024 being the only exception.

2025: Tyrone, Donegal, Kerry
2024: Mayo, Dublin, Roscommon
2023: Armagh
2022: Donegal
2021: Tyrone
2020: Dublin
2019: Donegal, Tyrone
2018: Donegal, Tyrone

Add in beating Donegal and Mayo in that time (and Monaghan 3 times if you consider them to be as good as they think they are) and our record is better than the vast majority of teams.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5298 - 01/07/2025 14:03:01    2622882

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Replying To KingdomofBreifne:  "No, I'm fairly sure we're unrelated. As for your season not ending like ours. You got promoted, I'll acknowledge that, but its championship you are referring to. Monaghan will end their season having defeated Louth, Clare, and Down. You won't get a cup for those wins! Therefore, our championship season will very much end in the same way, without a title of any sorts."
2 of those 3 teams are better than Cavan.

eddieSize5Balls (Donegal) - Posts: 192 - 02/07/2025 06:27:22    2623041

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Replying To cavanman47:  "I'd agree we should be better able to avoid hammering.

There's a level in us that means on our day, we can beat a top team (meaning we enter all games with some level of hope) and there seems to be a mental block or issue there that sets in when it looks like we ain't winning. The wheels completely come off.


As for the cranks on here. . .
Mickey Graham essentially stepped down due to discontent following an Ulster Championship loss to Armagh in 2023. 13 months later, Armagh were All Ireland champions.

Our Championship (ulster and All Ireland) losses over the past 8 seasons have all been to what would at the time have been considered a top 5 side, with Roscommon 2024 being the only exception.

2025: Tyrone, Donegal, Kerry
2024: Mayo, Dublin, Roscommon
2023: Armagh
2022: Donegal
2021: Tyrone
2020: Dublin
2019: Donegal, Tyrone
2018: Donegal, Tyrone

Add in beating Donegal and Mayo in that time (and Monaghan 3 times if you consider them to be as good as they think they are) and our record is better than the vast majority of teams."
The delusion is strong in Cavan I see

eddieSize5Balls (Donegal) - Posts: 192 - 02/07/2025 06:27:48    2623042

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Replying To cavanman47:  "I'd agree we should be better able to avoid hammering.

There's a level in us that means on our day, we can beat a top team (meaning we enter all games with some level of hope) and there seems to be a mental block or issue there that sets in when it looks like we ain't winning. The wheels completely come off.


As for the cranks on here. . .
Mickey Graham essentially stepped down due to discontent following an Ulster Championship loss to Armagh in 2023. 13 months later, Armagh were All Ireland champions.

Our Championship (ulster and All Ireland) losses over the past 8 seasons have all been to what would at the time have been considered a top 5 side, with Roscommon 2024 being the only exception.

2025: Tyrone, Donegal, Kerry
2024: Mayo, Dublin, Roscommon
2023: Armagh
2022: Donegal
2021: Tyrone
2020: Dublin
2019: Donegal, Tyrone
2018: Donegal, Tyrone

Add in beating Donegal and Mayo in that time (and Monaghan 3 times if you consider them to be as good as they think they are) and our record is better than the vast majority of teams."
Mickey Graham didn't step down he was effectively fired…. He had no intention of quitting.. He brought Cavan from Div 1 to Div 4 and how he survived so long is amazing… Most of the games you list were over after 20 minutes…notably the Armagh game at home in 2023…I never have any problem with loosing it's the manner in which we loose…

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 4234 - 02/07/2025 07:10:08    2623046

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Replying To eddieSize5Balls:  "The delusion is strong in Cavan I see"
Did i post something that wasn't true?

Or are you still salty from 2020?

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5298 - 02/07/2025 10:06:17    2623074

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Mickey Graham didn't step down he was effectively fired…. He had no intention of quitting.. He brought Cavan from Div 1 to Div 4 and how he survived so long is amazing… Most of the games you list were over after 20 minutes…notably the Armagh game at home in 2023…I never have any problem with loosing it's the manner in which we loose…"
He was asked by the county board to commit to another year.

He said he didn't want to, citing discontent expressed by some club delegates. It had zero to do with league performance.

Armagh's subsequent achievements showed it to be a very short-sighted position for those clubs to take!

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5298 - 02/07/2025 10:08:09    2623075

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