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It was great for kids to visit.

Was it delayed when it was destroyed?

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1902 - 29/01/2025 23:34:58    2588445

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Replying To Ros2013:  "I see nothing but begrudgery here and not surprised that some are gleeful it was destroyed. My experience of it is hundreds of children loving attending go games and development panels from Connacht getting top class coaching there. Can't wait for it to be built again and I'm sure there will be lessons applied regarding the structure. We'd have nothing across the Shannon if we didn't go ahead and build it ourselves such as Knock airport and the foresight of the great Monsignor Horan."
Maybe some will be delighted that the Frisbee Championship is cancelled because the auld Frisbeeing is a rival to the GAA.

https://m.independent.ie/weather/thankfully-nobody-got-hurt-connacht-gaa-chief-vows-air-dome-will-be-back-after-facility-destroyed-by-storm-eowyn/a172290480.html

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7731 - 30/01/2025 12:29:01    2588482

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Replying To Ros2013:  "I see nothing but begrudgery here and not surprised that some are gleeful it was destroyed. My experience of it is hundreds of children loving attending go games and development panels from Connacht getting top class coaching there. Can't wait for it to be built again and I'm sure there will be lessons applied regarding the structure. We'd have nothing across the Shannon if we didn't go ahead and build it ourselves such as Knock airport and the foresight of the great Monsignor Horan."
Understand your sentiments. We feel the same down in the south east. We can't get a bit of asphalt put down to land a plane. Or a catlab to stop people from dying in ambulances on the way to Cork. Cronyism with politicians is the story of our lives. You obviously value and use your dome. The only question is it the correct building for the purpose. It could happen again and you don't want to have spent the money that would have built a solid structure.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2922 - 30/01/2025 14:12:35    2588496

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Once in a life time storm, sorry that isn't good enough, if you are building a structure - particularly one of that cost what this project did, you risk assess and quality assure the project to withstand adverse and unusual weather events.

In essence you take the worst storm of a life time and you multiply by at least 5 in severity and you make sure your structure can withstand that.

Clearly this wasn't the case.

Another case of vanity, ruling substance.

Thankfully no one was hurt, but as per the Connacht chairman comments there was a potential risk to life.

Given the above, I don't what I would take for some to say, hmm maybe it wasn't the cleverest idea.

The argument that our tent wasn't a stupid idea, the weather was just bad just doesn't cut it."
With your attitude nothing would ever be rebuilt. I'm aware of structural engineering and what engineers plan for, I studied it in college.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11446 - 30/01/2025 15:34:37    2588521

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Replying To Mayonman:  "It was great for kids to visit.

Was it delayed when it was destroyed?"
delayed?

Drax_the_destroyer (UK) - Posts: 291 - 30/01/2025 16:14:53    2588528

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Replying To Canuck:  "Understand your sentiments. We feel the same down in the south east. We can't get a bit of asphalt put down to land a plane. Or a catlab to stop people from dying in ambulances on the way to Cork. Cronyism with politicians is the story of our lives. You obviously value and use your dome. The only question is it the correct building for the purpose. It could happen again and you don't want to have spent the money that would have built a solid structure."
Spot on Canuck. Not on the same scale but I live on a hill. Every year or 2 for 15 years I spent a good few hundred euro on stone and lost earnings for a day each time levelling them. Probably spent over 10k. Or around it.
3 years ago I spent 2.5k getting it concreted. I haven't had to spend anything on it since, and likely won't have to ever again.
Spot on about living in the South East also.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14443 - 30/01/2025 17:22:59    2588539

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Replying To Drax_the_destroyer:  "delayed?"
I think he meant deflated.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7731 - 30/01/2025 19:07:15    2588543

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Can anyone tell me with clarity if there is any man made, built for purpose structure in the country that would pass a safety check to withstand winds of up to and including 100 mph, if needs be turbine generators, mobile phone masts that vary considerably in height, and high voltage power lines that can reach frightening heights across the mountainous parts of the country, one or two examples will do rightly.

Personally, I hope the Dome is rebuilt asap in fact I think it was an ingenious bit of thinking and forward planning, I would repeat the process again as it would most likely weather many a storm over the next 75 years approx. I would however ask the project developing and engineering managers come up with a mechanism to protect it from winds of 115 mph ish.

Should the insurance people refuse to pay out fully or in part then a suitable fund raiser could be put in place, national or provincial and I would have no problem subscribing to one.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3091 - 30/01/2025 21:09:40    2588548

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Replying To yew_tree:  "With your attitude nothing would ever be rebuilt. I'm aware of structural engineering and what engineers plan for, I studied it in college."
That's a silly statement - it's like saying with your attitude only inflatable structures would be built, talk sense.

Cool! Want to give the debate the benefit of your structural engineering training and build a case for the original Dome viability and a rebuild being viable, beyond it got very windy, what can you do?

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4474 - 30/01/2025 23:00:06    2588557

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Replying To supersub15:  "Can anyone tell me with clarity if there is any man made, built for purpose structure in the country that would pass a safety check to withstand winds of up to and including 100 mph, if needs be turbine generators, mobile phone masts that vary considerably in height, and high voltage power lines that can reach frightening heights across the mountainous parts of the country, one or two examples will do rightly.

Personally, I hope the Dome is rebuilt asap in fact I think it was an ingenious bit of thinking and forward planning, I would repeat the process again as it would most likely weather many a storm over the next 75 years approx. I would however ask the project developing and engineering managers come up with a mechanism to protect it from winds of 115 mph ish.

Should the insurance people refuse to pay out fully or in part then a suitable fund raiser could be put in place, national or provincial and I would have no problem subscribing to one."
Maybe an earth bank on the western and southern sides?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14443 - 31/01/2025 06:41:16    2588565

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Replying To Viking66:  "Maybe everyone is looking at this wrong. What we should all be looking at is the plastic dome part as being a wearing part of a car, like tyres, a part that will need to be replaced every so many years. Then cost it accordingly. No poster has said how much this part cost, or will cost to replace, but if it is the case that it cost 1 million of the 3.5 million, and it lasted 200 weeks, that's 5000 euro a week. That's not great value. So if it is to be rebuilt, more thought should be put into windbreaks, like a double row of trees on the western and southern sides, maybe some sort of temporary close mesh netting to protect it while they grow, basically examine ways of making it last longer."
Yes, I agree with your idea on wind breaks and / or close mesh netting. I would go with the netting first because it would be more instant, the wind breaks might be more laborious and take more time. Both are practical and very possible.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3091 - 31/01/2025 08:36:18    2588579

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I hope the dome will be rebuilt as I heard yesterday will it not be cheaper to rebuild as did original cost not include the Astro pitch been installed which won't need to be done again.

Taking into account the increased cost of building

jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1316 - 31/01/2025 10:03:36    2588588

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I read they plan to have it rebuilt in 6 months. The 4G pitch itself wasn't affected .

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2844 - 31/01/2025 10:19:27    2588593

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Replying To TheUsername:  "That's a silly statement - it's like saying with your attitude only inflatable structures would be built, talk sense.

Cool! Want to give the debate the benefit of your structural engineering training and build a case for the original Dome viability and a rebuild being viable, beyond it got very windy, what can you do?"
'it's like saying with your attitude only inflatable structures would be built'.

Your reading skills ain't great gasun.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7731 - 31/01/2025 10:32:34    2588596

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Replying To Viking66:  "Maybe an earth bank on the western and southern sides?"
Wouldn't be feasible but an underground pitch and stand would do the job. Like a large version of The Pit in Albuquerque.

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GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7731 - 31/01/2025 10:40:57    2588597

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Is it covered by Insurance.

jacktheboy (Donegal) - Posts: 459 - 31/01/2025 11:18:10    2588605

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