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Mac and Ryan the only longterm ones AFAIK, apart from Foley who might be, had to get a scan on his foot last week.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15066 - 09/02/2025 11:46:33 2590207 Link 0 |
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"I hope the lads look into themselves and realise this will be their legacies and what they will be remembered for and start to believe and give everything" Well put. I'll still go up to Ennis daring to dream though. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15066 - 09/02/2025 11:47:58 2590208 Link 0 |
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People forget too that when Cian Lynch broke onto the senior intercounty scene he was like a whippet, now look at him...
Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2188 - 09/02/2025 11:51:45 2590211 Link 0 |
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Didn't score from play for 45 mins or so and that was by a half back. One point from play by a forward over 77 mins of hurling. Embarrassing for a team in division 1.
HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 529 - 09/02/2025 12:35:13 2590216 Link 0 |
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Just to be clear I'm talking about the second half. The half backline in particular upped their intensity which gave us a platform. I wouldn't pick out any player for having performed well in the first half. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3423 - 09/02/2025 12:39:35 2590217 Link 0 |
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Don't understand the issue with Molloy either. Obviously was commitment issues there previously but in terms of presence and touch he stood out from the first defensive play. He spots danger and has that bit of boldness you need to be a defender at this level. Needs to be put in at 6 v Clare. Reck and Foley are absolutely not the answer in that position. I'm not sure how many more times Reck has to fail there for management to finally see it. Corner back and leave him there. There was a lot of messing from management too in that first half with Foley starting in full back line, then coming out. Mcguckian starting midfield then dropping back. Dunbar and Lawlor were told to swap wings at one stage with Billy Ryan having a field day. We were all over the place and I'm not sure management helped. Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 369 - 09/02/2025 12:50:41 2590218 Link 0 |
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Final thought on our half back line, Patsy, Lawlor and Foley are all around 22. They are lads for the future as they get bigger, stronger and better with more experience of playing on better players at Senior intercounty. Unfortunately our 2 best wingbacks of the last few years, who would be in their peak years between 25 and 30, are currently in Oz. Add in Matthew, who is 33, who is also over there after retiring, and we could have had a serious enough half back line this year, better than Kilkennys, and freed Damien up to play as a deep midfielder offering cover and also helping the half back line launch attacks with quick accurate ball into the forwards. But we don't have those lads, so we may stick with the young lads and watch them getting bigger and better. Kehoe, who was starting u20 the last 2 years, looked good for DCU pre injury, and has started fullback for his club since he was 18, he has to be among the best options to develop as our future 3. That's what the League was always going to be about for us this year, and hopefully the next few years, developing lads who are very young by modern Senior intercounty standards into top players by the time they are 25. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15066 - 09/02/2025 12:52:25 2590219 Link 0 |
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Final thought on our half back line, Patsy, Lawlor and Foley are all around 22. They are lads for the future as they get bigger, stronger and better with more experience of playing on better players at Senior intercounty. Unfortunately our 2 best wingbacks of the last few years, who would be in their peak years between 25 and 30, are currently in Oz. Add in Matthew, who is 33, who is also over there after retiring, and we could have had a serious enough half back line this year, better than Kilkennys, and freed Damien up to play as a deep midfielder offering cover and also helping the half back line launch attacks with quick accurate ball into the forwards. But we don't have those lads, so we may stick with the young lads and watch them getting bigger and better. Kehoe, who was starting u20 the last 2 years, looked good for DCU pre injury, and has started fullback for his club since he was 18, he has to be among the best options to develop as our future 3. That's what the League was always going to be about for us this year, and hopefully the next few years, developing lads who are very young by modern Senior intercounty standards into top players by the time they are 25. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15066 - 09/02/2025 12:53:08 2590220 Link 0 |
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The first half was so bad our keeper was top scorer
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15066 - 09/02/2025 12:55:23 2590222 Link 0 |
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I don't think they all played well in the 2nd half either. They did all play with better intensity ok, but that has to be a given any time a lad is out on the pitch in a Wexford shirt. A halfback also has other primary jobs that they didn't all do well. In order of importance- 1- you can't let the ball past you and get in behind. 2- you have to be able to hook, block and tackle a runner without giving away a free, although giving away a free is better than letting the runner run past you and conceding a goal. Look back at the build up to the 2 Kilkenny goals. And also think about this point when you are looking at Damien Recks role for us in games. 3- you have to be positioned properly to defend, which is the primary job of any back. Granted if you have gone forward then a midfielder or another of the halfbacks has to come across and do job 1 for you til you get back. 4- you have to be able to play quick accurate ball forwards . 5- you have to be able to run the ball forwards and offload it BEFORE you get tackled, not after. 6- you have to be able to put most of your shots at the posts over the bar which in fairness to Lawlor and Conor Foley they usually do achieve a good percentage. 7- you have to make support runs for other runners, or make runs to draw tacklers away from the runner. Think back on the game, or watch it back as I plan to, watch the halfbacks, and then come back and post your thoughts bearing in mind the above. Or if I am wrong about points 1-7 let me know where I'm going wrong, as this is what I'm telling our young lads at the club who play in that line, especially points 1-5 for the young lads. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15066 - 09/02/2025 13:14:16 2590230 Link 0 |
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I don't think they all played well in the 2nd half either. They did all play with better intensity ok, but that has to be a given any time a lad is out on the pitch in a Wexford shirt. A halfback also has other primary jobs that they didn't all do well. In order of importance- 1- you can't let the ball past you and get in behind. 2- you have to be able to hook, block and tackle a runner without giving away a free, although giving away a free is better than letting the runner run past you and conceding a goal. Look back at the build up to the 2 Kilkenny goals. And also think about this point when you are looking at Damien Recks role for us in games. 3- you have to be positioned properly to defend, which is the primary job of any back. Granted if you have gone forward then a midfielder or another of the halfbacks has to come across and do job 1 for you til you get back. 4- you have to be able to play quick accurate ball forwards . 5- you have to be able to run the ball forwards and offload it BEFORE you get tackled, not after. 6- you have to be able to put most of your shots at the posts over the bar which in fairness to Lawlor and Conor Foley they usually do achieve a good percentage. 7- you have to make support runs for other runners, or make runs to draw tacklers away from the runner. Think back on the game, or watch it back as I plan to, watch the halfbacks, and then come back and post your thoughts bearing in mind the above. Or if I am wrong about points 1-7 let me know where I'm going wrong, as this is what I'm telling our young lads at the club who play in that line, especially points 1-5 for the young lads. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15066 - 09/02/2025 13:14:21 2590231 Link 0 |
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Its equally as naive to think guys who have struggled to make a mark at this level for many years are going to come back in and make us more competitive. It's the same with some good club players, last night just highlighted the day of a good club player coming into a county setup well into their 20s is over. The pace of the county game even during the NHL is miles above our very average club championship. There's maybe a few lads on the bench last night considering their positions this morning, management preferring Dunbar at wing back for example and bringing kids on up front. Top level sport is tough. Rossiter has an incredibly difficult job on his hands for the next few seasons. The core of the 2019 team is nearly gone and many lads we thought would make the step up haven't for various reasons. But I think the bulk of focus at county level has to be on our 15-20 year olds so in 3-5 years we will be genuinely competitive again. Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 369 - 09/02/2025 13:17:07 2590233 Link 0 |
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Damien Reck is probably our best hurler apart from Chin. I'd like to see him in midfield if we find a good 6, he'd be wasted in cornerback.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15066 - 09/02/2025 13:25:19 2590235 Link 0 |
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I agree 100% with pretty much all that, especially the last sentence. But I'd include Patsy, Lawlor and Foley in that, they were all still 21 only a year ago, actually think Foley is still 21 isn't he?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15066 - 09/02/2025 13:30:14 2590238 Link 0 |
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I agree 100% with pretty much all that, especially the last sentence. But I'd include Patsy, Lawlor and Foley in that, they were all still 21 only a year ago, actually think Foley is still 21 isn't he? I saw our u16 development squad yesterday morning, it was a cold day but some of their hurling was pretty impressive on a cold morning that involved quite a few coaching gaps between activities. Hopefully they develop well this year, and accumulate wins to help their confidence going into minor. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15066 - 09/02/2025 13:32:30 2590239 Link 0 |
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I agree 100% with pretty much all that, especially the last sentence. But I'd include Patsy, Lawlor and Foley in that, they were all still 21 only a year ago, actually think Foley is still 21 isn't he? I saw our u16 development squad yesterday morning, it was a cold day but some of their hurling was pretty impressive on a cold morning that involved quite a few coaching gaps between activities. Hopefully they develop well this year, and accumulate wins to help their confidence going into minor. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15066 - 09/02/2025 13:33:11 2590240 Link 0 |
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You know my views on this. He's our best hurler. Not as influential or as important as Chin. But he's the best hurler we have. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3423 - 09/02/2025 13:44:18 2590241 Link 0 |
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Everyone fit and avaiable, I'd go with something like the following for first round of championship: Fanning E.Ryan L.Ryan (please god). Whelan otherwise if he progresses. S.Reck C.Foley Molloy Lawlor/McGuckian D.Reck Hearne Chin K.Foley Dwyer/CBD Cian Byrne McDonald ROC Not a vintage team by any means. beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1469 - 09/02/2025 13:49:49 2590242 Link 0 |
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I'm not sure about that, he still can't handle a forward running at him and weak in the air. A very good stickman is still needed at corner back to get onto the short puck outs, he could still do that like what Nash does for Limerick. Eoin Ryan did well a few times last night breaking out from tackles, having two corner backs capable of that would be good and Reck would be better on the ball. Maybe give him at go at midfield, we don't have a partner for Hearne so could be worth a shot. Just not at 6 again. Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 369 - 09/02/2025 14:16:25 2590244 Link 0 |
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Not a bad team all the same if everyone's fit and firing. I'd fancy it to win a Leinster if it was. CBD badly needs to find some form. Dunbar, Jacko, Charlie, Dooley, Murphy, Redmond, etc would all offer something off the bench. I'd like to see more of Darren Codd in the next 3 League games also. Rowley, Roche and Byrne might be bolters.....
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15066 - 09/02/2025 14:24:39 2590245 Link 0 |