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Replying To Waltermitty2:  "All I'm saying is surely someone could have raised concerns about developing players for the future."
100% agree - there was a lot of decent U20 hurlers named in a previous post that should have been involved in some sort of Senior setup but never were asked. From a commercial perspective, Davy was a gravy train but from a player development perspective it was a massive fail by Wexford GAA. We are now reaping what we sowed unfortunately

MyOhMi (Wexford) - Posts: 204 - 04/07/2025 09:48:59    2623552

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Replying To MyOhMi:  "100% agree - there was a lot of decent U20 hurlers named in a previous post that should have been involved in some sort of Senior setup but never were asked. From a commercial perspective, Davy was a gravy train but from a player development perspective it was a massive fail by Wexford GAA. We are now reaping what we sowed unfortunately"
Agreed.

All is not lost However. While some of Rossi's tactical and selection decisions have been frustrating, it's clear that he's trying hard to catch up on the developmental work we missed.

I am confident we will improve, and the timing of us being in 1b is ultimately a good thing.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3807 - 04/07/2025 11:35:01    2623569

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Lads its the fallacy of the outside manager.
They are there for 3 years and after that its not their issue.
Micheal Donoghue did the same in Dublin and some players walked away never to return.
Rossiter has to re-build but does he have the raw materials to work with? Jury out on that for me. I hope he does because Leinster Hurling needs Wexford, Dublin, Offaly, to take the fight to Kilkenny.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1417 - 04/07/2025 12:57:31    2623590

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Agreed.

All is not lost However. While some of Rossi's tactical and selection decisions have been frustrating, it's clear that he's trying hard to catch up on the developmental work we missed.

I am confident we will improve, and the timing of us being in 1b is ultimately a good thing."
Yeah, working from the bottom up in 1B might not be a bad thing. It will help bring on new and existing players.
It will be a different environment. Small crowds, playing mostly against weaker counties.
It may help to build confidence and give management an opportunity to try out new tactics.
They can try out lads in different positions without the pressure of 1A hurling.
Dublin were in 1B this year and will be there again next year. Didn't do them any harm. Look at where they are now.
It will be Keith's job to get things right.
He has surely learnt from the mistakes of the past
1B will be no pushover. Clare, Dublin and even Kildare could be tricky enough.
Next year will tell a lot as to where we are.

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 533 - 04/07/2025 15:35:04    2623627

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Replying To Waltermitty2:  "Before davy was given an extension lots of people were bringing up the point that new players were not being blooded. He even brought players back on in a game after being taken off due to cramp. Completely ignored any player outside his top 18 or 19 for FIVE YEARS."
Did win a Leinster final and kept us very competitive throughout his five years! Bringing back on subbed players that day was ridiculous alright but player development is never going to be a priority for an outside coach.

We fell off a cliff under Egan and that was far from a poor group he inherited. Rossi seemed set to turn around our fortunes last season but we regressed again this season. I think most are realistic about where we stand currently and our likely position for next couple of years.

Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 434 - 04/07/2025 20:51:56    2623658

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Lads its the fallacy of the outside manager.
They are there for 3 years and after that its not their issue.
Micheal Donoghue did the same in Dublin and some players walked away never to return.
Rossiter has to re-build but does he have the raw materials to work with? Jury out on that for me. I hope he does because Leinster Hurling needs Wexford, Dublin, Offaly, to take the fight to Kilkenny."
He is in a far better starting place than Liam Dunne was.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3807 - 04/07/2025 21:30:24    2623663

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Replying To Magpie2:  "Yeah, working from the bottom up in 1B might not be a bad thing. It will help bring on new and existing players.
It will be a different environment. Small crowds, playing mostly against weaker counties.
It may help to build confidence and give management an opportunity to try out new tactics.
They can try out lads in different positions without the pressure of 1A hurling.
Dublin were in 1B this year and will be there again next year. Didn't do them any harm. Look at where they are now.
It will be Keith's job to get things right.
He has surely learnt from the mistakes of the past
1B will be no pushover. Clare, Dublin and even Kildare could be tricky enough.
Next year will tell a lot as to where we are."
Crowds won't be much smaller than they have been. We are down to the diehards

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16488 - 04/07/2025 21:39:25    2623666

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "He is in a far better starting place than Liam Dunne was."
Absolutely he is.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16488 - 04/07/2025 21:39:53    2623668

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "He is in a far better starting place than Liam Dunne was."
Is he? Liam Dunne had players from 3 U21 Leinster titles to work with and blood. He had some really promising talents mad for Road.
As Exile says, jury is out on a lot of what Rossi has to work with and the underage teams have been losing to Laois and the like.
I would be choosing Liam's position to be fair.
But I might be missing your point Doylerwex and sorry if I am.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1890 - 05/07/2025 06:49:30    2623698

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "Is he? Liam Dunne had players from 3 U21 Leinster titles to work with and blood. He had some really promising talents mad for Road.
As Exile says, jury is out on a lot of what Rossi has to work with and the underage teams have been losing to Laois and the like.
I would be choosing Liam's position to be fair.
But I might be missing your point Doylerwex and sorry if I am."
Agreed, we couldn't have been any worse when Dunne took over. We were at rock bottom. Zero expectations and a half effort in s&c.

He fixed the low hanging fruit first I.e he got them fit.

Then as.you said he had an influx of excellent young talent. All roads pointed up.

To be fair on Keith with the way our underage is we don't have the quality of youth that Liam had. Not even close

All roads Do Not point up for Keith, quite the opposite in a lot respects.

WEXILE (Wexford) - Posts: 431 - 05/07/2025 12:17:06    2623720

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Replying To WEXILE:  "Agreed, we couldn't have been any worse when Dunne took over. We were at rock bottom. Zero expectations and a half effort in s&c.

He fixed the low hanging fruit first I.e he got them fit.

Then as.you said he had an influx of excellent young talent. All roads pointed up.

To be fair on Keith with the way our underage is we don't have the quality of youth that Liam had. Not even close

All roads Do Not point up for Keith, quite the opposite in a lot respects."
Our underage is better now than when Liam Dunne took over.

He was involved in management of that team as juveniles in 05.

Took over the senior team in 2011

The U21 teams were 13/14/15 when he'd already been in charge of the senior team for two years.

From being relegated in the league and not qualifying from Leinster I would say all roads do point up for Rossi but there are excellent 14,16 teams, a good minor team last year, two very good 20 teams he had himself.

Everyone is saying our underage is in a shocking state after one bad minor and 20 team.

When Dunne took over we had done nothing at any level for 7 consecutive seasons.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3807 - 05/07/2025 13:16:21    2623729

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I'm not meaning to be trolling you Doylerwex but 2 great U20 teams? Where are they all now?

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1890 - 05/07/2025 14:49:02    2623745

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Our underage is better now than when Liam Dunne took over.

He was involved in management of that team as juveniles in 05.

Took over the senior team in 2011

The U21 teams were 13/14/15 when he'd already been in charge of the senior team for two years.

From being relegated in the league and not qualifying from Leinster I would say all roads do point up for Rossi but there are excellent 14,16 teams, a good minor team last year, two very good 20 teams he had himself.

Everyone is saying our underage is in a shocking state after one bad minor and 20 team.

When Dunne took over we had done nothing at any level for 7 consecutive seasons."
There were some excellent hurlers on both those teams, minor and u20.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16488 - 05/07/2025 14:51:04    2623746

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "Is he? Liam Dunne had players from 3 U21 Leinster titles to work with and blood. He had some really promising talents mad for Road.
As Exile says, jury is out on a lot of what Rossi has to work with and the underage teams have been losing to Laois and the like.
I would be choosing Liam's position to be fair.
But I might be missing your point Doylerwex and sorry if I am."
When Liam took over our Senior team alot of those lads were still minors in fairness. They weren't even 22/23 when he got replaced.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16488 - 05/07/2025 14:52:30    2623747

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "I'm not meaning to be trolling you Doylerwex but 2 great U20 teams? Where are they all now?"
Around 10 or 11 of them have started at Senior Level already and alot of them are still 21/22

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16488 - 05/07/2025 16:26:45    2623766

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "I'm not meaning to be trolling you Doylerwex but 2 great U20 teams? Where are they all now?"
I didn't say great, I said very good. They're still only 22/23 and loads of them started their senior careers in the last two seasons.

Conor Foley, Cian Molloy, Eoin Ryan, Darragh Carley, Cian Byrne, CBD, Richie Lawlor. All of those players have the potential to be every bit as good as the generation you're talking about.

The days of under 21s bursting on to the scene at Liam McCarthy level and making an immediate impact are finished.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3807 - 05/07/2025 18:10:42    2623782

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "I didn't say great, I said very good. They're still only 22/23 and loads of them started their senior careers in the last two seasons.

Conor Foley, Cian Molloy, Eoin Ryan, Darragh Carley, Cian Byrne, CBD, Richie Lawlor. All of those players have the potential to be every bit as good as the generation you're talking about.

The days of under 21s bursting on to the scene at Liam McCarthy level and making an immediate impact are finished."
Tipp seem to be doing it ie Darragh McCarthy.

Jedobi (Wexford) - Posts: 248 - 05/07/2025 21:05:51    2623813

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