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Replying To fathermurphy:  "Incorrect,there is no team that has been badly treated or had so much bad luck as wexford, we are just not getting the rub of the green,we need to speak and stand up more and fairplay to rossiter for speaking out after the match"
Hurling is the fastest field game on the planet..
Incidents happen such as fouls and frees/ penalty decisions in a fraction of a second. Referees will make errors. They are human. I don't believe they deliberately set out to favour one side or the other.
Why would they?.
Generally the standard of hurling Referees is poor but as I said the game is so fast with the ball travelling at lightening speed from end to end.
The man in the middle can't always be close to the action. He is often 60 or 70 yards away when a foul occurs therefore he simply can't always make the right call. All teams get wrong decisions against them. Yes we seem to get more than most for some reason in the past and currently but usually the referee tries to be fair. The decision to not consult the umpires last Saturday was dreadful and could have had a bearing on the outcome.
Bottom line is mistakes have always been made and always will.

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 436 - 29/04/2025 01:02:01    2605199

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "I called it out last week we got the benefit of some dodgy decisions against Antrim. The contrast is they had almost no bearing on the result"
However did you say it was the reason we won? or was it despite those decisions we were still the better team?

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1948 - 29/04/2025 01:28:55    2605204

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Replying To gannett83:  "All well good having the best team on field but if we concede puck out again Galway will do the same as Dublin did yesterday… and there forwards are bigger and we have always struggled against them down through the years physically… I do expect though Jack Connor to come straight back in and Mac if fit.. Liam Ryan to start aswell instead of mcguckian think Conor foley wil start again had a though day yesterday but think he is a far better hurler than mcguckian.. it's a must win game for us now. Was going to suggest that they would be weaker as daithi Burke wil be suspended after being sent off yesterday.. but Dublin were missing 2 of there best players and we still could of beat them.. lads just on chin anyone else agree that he is Wexfords greatest hurler??"
Yes our backs as a unit are a poor outfit, dress it up anyway you like, it's still poor and worse again it's the best we have. We will always struggle without a good centre back,a fullback,2 tigerish Corner backs. Our half backs have to be big,good in the air,mobile and can get forward in a blink of an eye. We have none of these type players. We have gaps filled. Dublin over last 10 years have our number, bring the physical game and Wexford struggle. Dublin has had better players also,so we got to take that to move forward.Daithi Burke is not a big loss for Galway. He would of been someone to target for sure. If Dublin had full team we would be in a bad position,Hopefully Dublin can go and give a good account of themselves Beating a poor Wexford won't be enough, they were poor last year even though they drew with us. Last Question, Is Lee Chin Wexfords best hurler ever? No I wouldn't agree, He took a good many years to get to the player we see today, his physical size makes him a phenomenal athlete. He had to work hard to get to where he is today, We could do with another Lee Chin!! In my time watching Wexford, I would put that small warrior Liam Dunne before Chin. And also Martin Storey, he was a phenomenal hurler, he was a joy to watch late 80s upto the 90s, He won games on his own times. His speed hurt opponents everyday, he had no fear for a smallish man. Someone asked Anthony Daly who was better 1/2 forward he ever marked he said Larry Murphy he could get to grips with him quicker, couple of skelps and you tie him down!! But Storey was a different animal.You could wear out your hurl on him,doesn't take nothing out of him. Storey No 4 for me, Liam Dunne No2,Fitz No 2,Chin No 5. Best for me without shadow of a doubt and could argue what he done for Wexford surpassed the rest- Played from 18 yrs to 37yrs old. He carried the team,and all Wexford Supporters at times, his passion was phenomenal. On the field a Gent. The amount of Goals was crazy. Funny thing first I seen him shocked me, I was only 7/8, We only B/W.TV at home!!!!!. Big Bunch of Red hair! I remember everytime a highball was sent in,the crowd would always stand up when ball was going towards Full Forward line, there was only one winner, Tony collects and it's in the net before anyone knew what was going on.9 time All Ireland winner Noel Skehan said he was the only forward he feared!!! Wexford Supporters always fancied their chances when Tony was on the field.The crowd would go ballistic and I was hooked for ever more! I cried when he retired, coming into 1985 Championship and he said I probably won't make as not fit enough. Wex got bet by a couple of points and Tony scored 5-05 in a practice match against a Kilkenny team on the Friday. He had great vision also, good lads around him Seanie Kinsella, Martin' Fitzhenry. No 1 Tony Doran. Mick Jacob Senior was No 3 and push rest down1.

Tox73 (Wexford) - Posts: 181 - 29/04/2025 02:44:31    2605210

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Replying To fathermurphy:  "Incorrect,there is no team that has been badly treated or had so much bad luck as wexford, we are just not getting the rub of the green,we need to speak and stand up more and fairplay to rossiter for speaking out after the match"
The biggest game in the last 10yrs we were ahead by 5pts and the opposition gets a man sent off for a second yellow. Now I cannot remember what the first one was for but the second one was a yellow but not a very hard strike, at that stage everything was lined up for us to win. We didn't win because we were not good enough but had we had a player sent off at that time and lost we would have blamed that as the reason why we lost. The passage of play that led to the penalty against Dublin - that was not good enough and you would not expect a top tier team to make that mistake. Had Hearne not pulled back the Dublin player it was 100% a goal but rather than focus on the issues that led to the penalty you are focused on if the ball was over the line and the fact we were hard done by. What we need to focus on is taking the decision making out of the officials hands.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1948 - 29/04/2025 03:18:02    2605215

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Replying To fathermurphy:  "Incorrect,there is no team that has been badly treated or had so much bad luck as wexford, we are just not getting the rub of the green,we need to speak and stand up more and fairplay to rossiter for speaking out after the match"
Which is literally what every team thinks in every sport! That they're the ones most hard done by.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1484 - 29/04/2025 07:39:52    2605223

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Replying To fathermurphy:  "Incorrect,there is no team that has been badly treated or had so much bad luck as wexford, we are just not getting the rub of the green,we need to speak and stand up more and fairplay to rossiter for speaking out after the match"
Agree with all that but still if we cant score frees be consistent in games and give away what i would deem silly frees away we wont win anything have to adress what we can control and if thats all perfect then we will qualify .

Tiger1 (Wexford) - Posts: 332 - 29/04/2025 08:38:15    2605228

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "I called it out last week we got the benefit of some dodgy decisions against Antrim. The contrast is they had almost no bearing on the result"
I thought we got the majority of frees in Antrim game as well and some of em soft, he moved a load of em forward too for dissent.

But in saying that we were the ones doing most of the hurling after 10 mins. Plus Antrim got a penalty after a minute for a not so bad tackle and Jacko sent off for an incident that very few people saw

WEXILE (Wexford) - Posts: 367 - 29/04/2025 09:03:51    2605234

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Replying To Viking66:  "Agree with all that. But 2 bad decisions also cost us last year. The Dublin goal from the free shouldn't have been allowed, the free shouldve been retaken as the referee never blew his whistle to restart the game. That's in the rules. Then the penalty that wasn't in Nowlan Park. Thats in the rules also. Then the Rory sending off, in particular the 1st yellow. No malice or intent, a short player ducked into a tackle was all it was. Then there was the penalty that was but shouldn't have been up in Leitrim that cost our Footballers promotion. There was the Jacko sending off against Offaly that cost us a point also. Last year was a shocking one for us for bad refereeing, no point trying to dress it up as anything else.
This year is shaping up the same. Our minor Footballers were knocked out of Leinster because they lost to Carlow by a point. If we had drawn we would've won gone through instead of them. We scored a point that was waved wide.
Then there was the goal on Saturday that wasn't.
And as regards swings and roundabouts how many league or championship games did we win last year or this on account of bad decisions?"
Didn't mark fanning score a goal a few years ago that went through the net and wasn't given. I know we won that day but that is also another decision

Wexfordgaa (Wexford) - Posts: 361 - 29/04/2025 09:05:52    2605235

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On the subject of whether we've got the raw end of the stick when it comes to refereeing decisions in the last few years, complaints about the referee are only going to happen if you lose by a close margin. Win and you're probably not going to take issue with the ref and lose by a big margin and it's hard to say the referee was the difference

Since we won the Leinster Final in 2019, we've played in 16 Championship games where the was at most a four point difference between the teams at the end of the 70 minutes. Our record in those games: W3, D4, L9

Not going to comment on past refereeing performances but given our performances in close games, people are always going to take issue with the referee rightly or wrongly

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 462 - 29/04/2025 09:09:53    2605238

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Replying To Tiger1:  "Be patient viking our turn will come."
Didn't the ref blow up against Laois u20s or minors I can't remember just when Wexford were taking a free to win the game. Wexford player passed his free to unmarked player and he onky had to stroke it over the bar.....ref blew the whistle

WEXILE (Wexford) - Posts: 367 - 29/04/2025 09:09:56    2605239

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Replying To Wexfordgaa:  "Didn't mark fanning score a goal a few years ago that went through the net and wasn't given. I know we won that day but that is also another decision"
He did, hit the back stanchion, it was against Offaly

hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1116 - 29/04/2025 10:16:04    2605261

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That Laois one was in the U20 match last year. Simon Roche was lining up the shot from around the 65m line when the ref blew full time.

Game ended in a draw and in many ways that decision didn't really matter, as Wexford finished second in the group anyway, and wouldn't have gone top even if Roche had been allowed to shoot a winning score. But was still a bizarre time to blow full time.

The Fanning penalty is on YouTube -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gCqNr2gCV0
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Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2835 - 29/04/2025 10:36:30    2605268

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Any news on the injury front lads? Chin and Conor Foley both picked up knocks during the match Saturday. Hopefully Mac is fit enough to feature at some stage Saturday week. He looks in good nick seeing him on the line the last 2 games.

Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 547 - 29/04/2025 10:44:58    2605272

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "That Laois one was in the U20 match last year. Simon Roche was lining up the shot from around the 65m line when the ref blew full time.

Game ended in a draw and in many ways that decision didn't really matter, as Wexford finished second in the group anyway, and wouldn't have gone top even if Roche had been allowed to shoot a winning score. But was still a bizarre time to blow full time.

The Fanning penalty is on YouTube -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gCqNr2gCV0
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Wasn't there a contentious score in Wexford v Kilkenny at Croke Park during one of those covid leinster semi finals. Ball over the bar but kk goalie batted down and Mac smashed it into the net, halkewy wasn't working so whether it was a point or a goal is anyones guess. It would have won us the game too.

Anyway even Real Madrid thinks refs don't favour them

WEXILE (Wexford) - Posts: 367 - 29/04/2025 10:52:56    2605276

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Replying To WEXILE:  "Didn't the ref blow up against Laois u20s or minors I can't remember just when Wexford were taking a free to win the game. Wexford player passed his free to unmarked player and he onky had to stroke it over the bar.....ref blew the whistle"
That was Simon Roche for the u20s last year.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15527 - 29/04/2025 11:27:47    2605295

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Replying To OpenStandWall:  "Looked back at the highlights of the match yesterday, couple of thoughts.

Dublin goals - Take away the ball not crossing the line, and yes it is easy to say it in hindsight - but McGuckin had Eoin Ryan and Damien Reck coming off his left shoulder, I still can't understand as to why he turned back in to traffic. As for the other two goals - We were caught ball watching.

High ball - When Dublin started going long, it was as if they could sense us panicking, persisted with it, and as usual by the time we reacted to it the damage had been done. I did feel also from the resulting breaks off these Dublin were nearly able to pick off a score at ease.

Unless it's against Kilkenny, we aren't able to win a championship game that goes down to the wire and results show that. As soon as we went 4 points down with 15 mins left after the third goal, it felt like the writing was on the wall."
He turned back into traffic because that's what he has done consistently since underage. He gave away points from turnovers in the game Saturday also.
As regards the last point that would be the only real slight criticism I'd have of Keith, he seems slow to make changes, or makes strange ones. Last year against Antrim he took off Niall Murphy when everyone around me, from Antrim or Wexford, was 100% sure Dooley was coming off. He brought CBD on in injury time on Saturday, a lad who was still too light to win a ball during this year's League.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15527 - 29/04/2025 11:36:57    2605299

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Replying To OpenStandWall:  "Looked back at the highlights of the match yesterday, couple of thoughts.

Dublin goals - Take away the ball not crossing the line, and yes it is easy to say it in hindsight - but McGuckin had Eoin Ryan and Damien Reck coming off his left shoulder, I still can't understand as to why he turned back in to traffic. As for the other two goals - We were caught ball watching.

High ball - When Dublin started going long, it was as if they could sense us panicking, persisted with it, and as usual by the time we reacted to it the damage had been done. I did feel also from the resulting breaks off these Dublin were nearly able to pick off a score at ease.

Unless it's against Kilkenny, we aren't able to win a championship game that goes down to the wire and results show that. As soon as we went 4 points down with 15 mins left after the third goal, it felt like the writing was on the wall."
As regards losing tight games there's a flakiness about us that's there since Davys day tbh. Except as you say against Kilkenny.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15527 - 29/04/2025 11:38:23    2605301

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Replying To zinny:  "The biggest game in the last 10yrs we were ahead by 5pts and the opposition gets a man sent off for a second yellow. Now I cannot remember what the first one was for but the second one was a yellow but not a very hard strike, at that stage everything was lined up for us to win. We didn't win because we were not good enough but had we had a player sent off at that time and lost we would have blamed that as the reason why we lost. The passage of play that led to the penalty against Dublin - that was not good enough and you would not expect a top tier team to make that mistake. Had Hearne not pulled back the Dublin player it was 100% a goal but rather than focus on the issues that led to the penalty you are focused on if the ball was over the line and the fact we were hard done by. What we need to focus on is taking the decision making out of the officials hands."
So you are saying we need to win tight games by 4 points? Just in case? Bizarre post Zinny.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15527 - 29/04/2025 11:41:05    2605303

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I get the concerns over the high ball but for the first goal, we were the ones to actually win the high ball and for the second goal, think it was O'Sullivan who won it in the air and he's not a big man. Bigger issue for me was that we were at sixes and sevens defensively, Hetherton was left unmarked twice, can go on about the high ball all you want but I think what really cost us was that our defensive structure completely fell apart

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 462 - 29/04/2025 12:06:07    2605315

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Replying To Viking66:  "He turned back into traffic because that's what he has done consistently since underage. He gave away points from turnovers in the game Saturday also.
As regards the last point that would be the only real slight criticism I'd have of Keith, he seems slow to make changes, or makes strange ones. Last year against Antrim he took off Niall Murphy when everyone around me, from Antrim or Wexford, was 100% sure Dooley was coming off. He brought CBD on in injury time on Saturday, a lad who was still too light to win a ball during this year's League."
I agree management are way too slow to make positional changes and substitutions . What was the point brining on Corey with 1 minute of injury time to go it wasted time more than anything and how has he got ahead of Jack Redmond in the pecking order is odd too.

Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 547 - 29/04/2025 12:20:07    2605322

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