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Replying To omahant: "Just a thought about shot frequency.
Given the time consumed to set up those 5 x 2-pointer attempts (and score 4 pts), could they possibly get say, 7 x 3-pointers off (and score 4.2 pts on average)?
Does 'attempt frequency' matter when assessing the 'optimal attempt'?
To my mind, finesse has to be part of the equation too - a team needs to be unpredictable, taking a 'mix n match' approach by playing a variety of attempts across the three scoring types.
Over the decades, the 'optimal play' in the NBA has oscillated between 2- and 3-pointer attempts.
Given that, what is a team to do now - concentrate on what is the most recently optimal play? - but your team may have special strengths that buck the trend and may find an alternative mix of scoring attempts may be more efficient for you.
There's more here than meets the eye (I think)." You have to remember that Gaelic football coaches copy the trend more so than any other sport.
Donegal won an All Ireland in 2012, with a very defensive method of play. Once they got ahead they were unbeatable.
Most counties went down the defensive football road to no avail. While, the next 10 years of League and All Ireland finals were dominated by Dublin, Mayo and Kerry with Tyrone lagging just off them.
Tyrone ditched the defensive football for 1 season and won the All Ireland.
The most successful teams are those who develop a game plan to suit their best players - never the other way around.
tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1772 - 20/04/2026 10:12:15
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Replying To tirawleybaron: "The 2 point arc, while a great idea, will ultimately change the game to focus on that method of scoring to the detriment of all else.
IN basketball - in the NBA most teams average 35% on 3 pointers, 50% on 2 pointers and 85% on free throws. So the 3 pointer rules
In GAA - teams shoot 70% on 1 pointers , so if you can shoot 40% on 2 pointers - thats the way to go.
Dublin's team of the 2010's used to average 60% shot accuracy on their All Ireland finals.
That was then upped after 2020 as teams played "I go - You go" refusing to shoot from outside the D.
The new focus on 2 pointers will result in ever more excessive handpassing and slow play as teams try to work the 2 point score.
In basketball, they have a shot clock, they count team fouls (punished by free throws) and have no back court to make the game flow properly .
GAA will end up there soon" Team fouls is something that should happen anyway there's too many fouls in kickout battles.
systematic (Galway) - Posts: 266 - 20/04/2026 10:36:13
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Replying To systematic: "Team fouls is something that should happen anyway there's too many fouls in kickout battles." I've always thought it strange that for amateur Basketball they have 2 refs, 2 officials at a table to officiate a game, yet the GAA and Soccer operate with the ref doing everything.
For example, the table officials track time, fouls (personal and team), substitutes and the shot clock.
However, in GAA the ref has to do everything, similar in soccer. They get 2 ref umpires and linesmen, who are no real addition either.
I would note that historic lack of respect for the referee in both GAA and Soccer, makes the job even harder.
tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1772 - 21/04/2026 11:07:51
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Replying To tirawleybaron: "Handpass rule
Consecutive Handpass Limit
Rule X.X - Sequential Handpassing
(a) Definition
A team may not execute more than three (3) consecutive handpasses in open play without the ball being:
Kicked
Played off the ground
Contested by an opponent
(b) Application
A handpass shall be defined as a strike of the ball from the hand(s)
The count resets upon any legal kick or change in possession
(c) Sanction
Free kick awarded to opposing team from point of infringement" With all of these changes to Gaelic Football, we should maybe end the current Roll of Honour at 2024 season and start a "New Rule era" Roll of Honour at 2025.
FRC changes were not a case of slight tweak of the rules, it was major rule changes to the fundamentals of Gaelic football to combat tactical approaches. Brought in a basketball arc, and if further changes continue to appear to ensure no holding up play, we will soon be moving to 4 quarters instead of two halves.
Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1787 - 21/04/2026 13:20:31
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Replying To Commodore: " Replying To tirawleybaron: "Handpass rule
Consecutive Handpass Limit
Rule X.X - Sequential Handpassing
(a) Definition
A team may not execute more than three (3) consecutive handpasses in open play without the ball being:
Kicked
Played off the ground
<u><b>Contested by an opponent</b></u>
(b) Application
A handpass shall be defined as a strike of the ball from the hand(s)
The count resets upon any legal kick or change in possession
(c) Sanction
Free kick awarded to opposing team from point of infringement"</div>With all of these changes to Gaelic Football, we should maybe end the current Roll of Honour at 2024 season and start a "New Rule era" Roll of Honour at 2025.
FRC changes were not a case of slight tweak of the rules, it was major rule changes to the fundamentals of Gaelic football to combat tactical approaches. Brought in a basketball arc, and if further changes continue to appear to ensure no holding up play, we will soon be moving to 4 quarters instead of two halves." The Aim of the FRC was to make Gaelic football " the most enjoyable amateur sports in the world to play and watch". • The top five skills that people like are kicking, catching, scoring of long-range points, goal scoring and general creative play. • The top three tactical skills were: 1 v 1 contests to gain possession of the ball; taking on an opponent in a 1 v 1 situation; a nd good support play during speedy attacking transitions. • There was a strong dislike from people regarding dissent towards match officials a nd cynical/delaying tactics. • In general, people want to see: - A game where skill and risk taking are rewarded. - A game which encourages forward momentum. - A game of contests. What is the main item now that discourages forward momentum, allows delaying tactics, discourages speeding attacking situations? Unlimited handpassing. - it needs to be sorted
tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1772 - 21/04/2026 14:49:06
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Replying To tirawleybaron: " Replying To Commodore: "[quote=tirawleybaron: "Handpass rule
Consecutive Handpass Limit
Rule X.X - Sequential Handpassing
(a) Definition
A team may not execute more than three (3) consecutive handpasses in open play without the ball being:
Kicked
Played off the ground
<u><b>Contested by an opponent</b></u>
(b) Application
A handpass shall be defined as a strike of the ball from the hand(s)
The count resets upon any legal kick or change in possession
(c) Sanction
Free kick awarded to opposing team from point of infringement"</div>With all of these changes to Gaelic Football, we should maybe end the current Roll of Honour at 2024 season and start a "New Rule era" Roll of Honour at 2025.
FRC changes were not a case of slight tweak of the rules, it was major rule changes to the fundamentals of Gaelic football to combat tactical approaches. Brought in a basketball arc, and if further changes continue to appear to ensure no holding up play, we will soon be moving to 4 quarters instead of two halves." The Aim of the FRC was to make Gaelic football " the most enjoyable amateur sports in the world to play and watch". • The top five skills that people like are kicking, catching, scoring of long-range points, goal scoring and general creative play. • The top three tactical skills were: 1 v 1 contests to gain possession of the ball; taking on an opponent in a 1 v 1 situation; a nd good support play during speedy attacking transitions. • There was a strong dislike from people regarding dissent towards match officials a nd cynical/delaying tactics. • In general, people want to see: - A game where skill and risk taking are rewarded. - A game which encourages forward momentum. - A game of contests. What is the main item now that discourages forward momentum, allows delaying tactics, discourages speeding attacking situations? Unlimited handpassing. - it needs to be sorted"]I think a 'keep ball' limit of sorts would be better. I suggest the following remedy: - Divide the pitch into 3 zones (3rds), segmented at the 45s - The 45s serve as TWO backcourt boundaries - Defence limited to 3 consecutive intra-zone passes (by foot or hand) prior to advancing the ball to the middle zone (by kick pass, hand pass or solo run) This way, there is no need for a 'shot clock' because there is an urgency to get a shot off at goal before a turnover in the crowded attacking third. Given crowding, would two backcourts at the 65s be better?
omahant (USA) - Posts: 3401 - 22/04/2026 17:37:23
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Replying To omahant: " Replying To tirawleybaron: "[quote=Commodore: "[quote=tirawleybaron: "Handpass rule
Consecutive Handpass Limit
Rule X.X - Sequential Handpassing
(a) Definition
A team may not execute more than three (3) consecutive handpasses in open play without the ball being:
Kicked
Played off the ground
<u><b>Contested by an opponent</b></u>
(b) Application
A handpass shall be defined as a strike of the ball from the hand(s)
The count resets upon any legal kick or change in possession
(c) Sanction
Free kick awarded to opposing team from point of infringement"</div>With all of these changes to Gaelic Football, we should maybe end the current Roll of Honour at 2024 season and start a "New Rule era" Roll of Honour at 2025.
FRC changes were not a case of slight tweak of the rules, it was major rule changes to the fundamentals of Gaelic football to combat tactical approaches. Brought in a basketball arc, and if further changes continue to appear to ensure no holding up play, we will soon be moving to 4 quarters instead of two halves." The Aim of the FRC was to make Gaelic football " the most enjoyable amateur sports in the world to play and watch". • The top five skills that people like are kicking, catching, scoring of long-range points, goal scoring and general creative play. • The top three tactical skills were: 1 v 1 contests to gain possession of the ball; taking on an opponent in a 1 v 1 situation; a nd good support play during speedy attacking transitions. • There was a strong dislike from people regarding dissent towards match officials a nd cynical/delaying tactics. • In general, people want to see: - A game where skill and risk taking are rewarded. - A game which encourages forward momentum. - A game of contests. What is the main item now that discourages forward momentum, allows delaying tactics, discourages speeding attacking situations? Unlimited handpassing. - it needs to be sorted"]I think a 'keep ball' limit of sorts would be better. I suggest the following remedy: - Divide the pitch into 3 zones (3rds), segmented at the 45s - The 45s serve as TWO backcourt boundaries - Defence limited to 3 consecutive intra-zone passes (by foot or hand) prior to advancing the ball to the middle zone (by kick pass, hand pass or solo run) This way, there is no need for a 'shot clock' because there is an urgency to get a shot off at goal before a turnover in the crowded attacking third. Given crowding, would two backcourts at the 65s be better?"]There is no real problem with defenders coming out slowly - its playing keep ball around the 45 in attack is the problem. The defenders need to be incentivized to push out and the attackers need to be punished for faffing around with the ball.
tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1772 - 23/04/2026 09:54:14
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Replying To tirawleybaron: "I recall that most teams only convert 1 in 5 goal chances - so you get 3 points from 5 shots, compared with 4 points from 5 two point shots, or 3 points from 5no 1 point shots
They will have to up a goal to 4 points to make it the most attractive way of scoring." Yeah - the most effective way to score at the moment is using the 2-pointer.
Goal chances are much harder to come by as well - so they should be worth more. By your logic of chance conversion a goal should probably be worth 5 points to make it more appealing than a 2 point chance.
I'd see the ratio as 1: 1.5 : 3.5 being best - you can't have half a point though so 1:2:4 is closer - but I'd go 2:3:7 for best balance.
brianb (Kildare) - Posts: 489 - 24/04/2026 09:44:26
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The three tweaks I'd make to the rules as they are which I feel would make the game feel fairer are:
1 - The ball must go dead after the hooter - this seems obvious to me; there will be a controversy this summer over a score; was it played before / after the hooter. It makes the ref's job tougher. I didn't see the logic in the change at the time and believe it has now proven to be worse.
2 - Individual technical frees should be made indirect; Picking the ball up / overcarrying etc. The most unfair thing with the new rules are where a player is called for overcarrying when attacking and doesn't hand the ball over quick enough; the referee then advances 50 meters; resulting in a free for a 2-pointer. With these fouls - often the initial foul is debatable and a tough call for a ref; and the handover equally so. A refereeing error / interpretation can quickly compound into 2 points on the scoreboard. If the resulting free was indirect - the turnover would still be debatable (when given against us we always think the ref made a mistake) but at least it wouldn't directly turn the scoreboard.
3 - Taking a 2-point shot for a 3-up breach; a tap over free should suffice here.
brianb (Kildare) - Posts: 489 - 24/04/2026 10:16:30
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Replying To brianb: "The three tweaks I'd make to the rules as they are which I feel would make the game feel fairer are:
1 - The ball must go dead after the hooter - this seems obvious to me; there will be a controversy this summer over a score; was it played before / after the hooter. It makes the ref's job tougher. I didn't see the logic in the change at the time and believe it has now proven to be worse.
2 - Individual technical frees should be made indirect; Picking the ball up / overcarrying etc. The most unfair thing with the new rules are where a player is called for overcarrying when attacking and doesn't hand the ball over quick enough; the referee then advances 50 meters; resulting in a free for a 2-pointer. With these fouls - often the initial foul is debatable and a tough call for a ref; and the handover equally so. A refereeing error / interpretation can quickly compound into 2 points on the scoreboard. If the resulting free was indirect - the turnover would still be debatable (when given against us we always think the ref made a mistake) but at least it wouldn't directly turn the scoreboard.
3 - Taking a 2-point shot for a 3-up breach; a tap over free should suffice here." Good points there, and I agree wholeheartedly with number 1 in particular. Have already said somewhere myself how it's only a matter of time before there's a major controversy over whether a crucial last-second "score" was kicked just before or just after the hooter sounded.
On number 2 - I know this is a thread about the football rules, but can't help thinking of this in connection with hurling too. Might help with cutting down on the ball being thrown rather than handpassed properly.
I reckon that at the moment, referees let a lot of the debatable ones go, because realistically a free in hurling from anywhere outside your own 45m line is a scoring chance, and a point on the board for the other team as a result of a genuinely debatable "handpass" is probably too much punishment.
But if those frees became indirect instead, referees could stamp down harder on the debatable ones, and eventually we'd get to a stage where every handpass is obviously being done properly.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3548 - 24/04/2026 10:25:43
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Replying To brianb: "Yeah - the most effective way to score at the moment is using the 2-pointer.
Goal chances are much harder to come by as well - so they should be worth more. By your logic of chance conversion a goal should probably be worth 5 points to make it more appealing than a 2 point chance.
I'd see the ratio as 1: 1.5 : 3.5 being best - you can't have half a point though so 1:2:4 is closer - but I'd go 2:3:7 for best balance." 2-3-7 seems fair for a 'pair' of each scoring variety.
You could keep your original 1-1.5-3.5 for 'one of each type' with scores rounded down to '1-1-3' before '2nd of a type' produces that bonus for arc and goal scores.
Score reporting convention could be 'traditional' with arc scores in brackets for info - e.g. 1-10 (2) - means 2 arc scores (3 pts), so 7 'points' (7 pts) and a goal (3 pts) for a total of 13 (like now). If 2-10 (3), then arcs (4 pts), points (6 pts) and goals (7 pts) for a total of 17 pts (1 extra for pair of goals).
omahant (USA) - Posts: 3401 - 24/04/2026 22:21:07
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Replying To brianb: "Yeah - the most effective way to score at the moment is using the 2-pointer.
Goal chances are much harder to come by as well - so they should be worth more. By your logic of chance conversion a goal should probably be worth 5 points to make it more appealing than a 2 point chance.
I'd see the ratio as 1: 1.5 : 3.5 being best - you can't have half a point though so 1:2:4 is closer - but I'd go 2:3:7 for best balance." I'm pretty sure the stats showed that goal chances increased in last year's championship after the introduction of the new rules. There was no shortage of goals in the league either.
I haven't seen the most recent stats, but I recall that goal chances were up quite a bit. The inference being that 3 fewer defenders as well as defenders having to push out to defend the arc was creating more space inside. Turnovers were up as well, leading to more counter attacks, which have a higher chance of goals.
WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2774 - 25/04/2026 09:45:27
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Replying To brianb: "Yeah - the most effective way to score at the moment is using the 2-pointer.
Goal chances are much harder to come by as well - so they should be worth more. By your logic of chance conversion a goal should probably be worth 5 points to make it more appealing than a 2 point chance.
I'd see the ratio as 1: 1.5 : 3.5 being best - you can't have half a point though so 1:2:4 is closer - but I'd go 2:3:7 for best balance." Now, in all fairness, the committee that came up with these rules recognised the goal issue and recommended a 4 point goal. This was shot down almost immediately by those that thought that they knew better than them. Maybe we should just go with what they intended originally. They got the other ones right mostly. Even the hooter one was better their way.
I would agree with making the technical frees indirect and the not handing back 13m frees only with one caveat. Inside the last 5 minutes ( or 3) the option should be available to go for 2.
The other one that annoys me is the keeper and kickout rule. I dont like that the keeper cant be used in his own half. I think that that one should be reversed.. The keeper should be part of play inside the 20m line and 2 point arc and not allowed outside that zone. That would include kick outs. He must kick beyond the 2 point arc but can receive the pass back from the receiver. Its too hard atm to restart the game. This would still hold some peril for the keeper on the shorter ones but it also would require the opposition to push up a bit on the kickout creating some space in the middle third.
A former intercounty keeper I know returned for his club recently after being retired for 3 years. He doesnt like the keeper rule at all. Its his first experience of it on the pitch and he says he wouldnt have been a keeper if it was there when he was starting out. Keeping is boring now. He also reckons that a lot of keepers of his generation would have struggled with the kick outs. They just wouldnt have the length required. He struggles on that himself from what I saw in the game I watched recently.
Tadhg2020 (Limerick) - Posts: 247 - 25/04/2026 10:44:41
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Replying To Tadhg2020: "Now, in all fairness, the committee that came up with these rules recognised the goal issue and recommended a 4 point goal. This was shot down almost immediately by those that thought that they knew better than them. Maybe we should just go with what they intended originally. They got the other ones right mostly. Even the hooter one was better their way.
I would agree with making the technical frees indirect and the not handing back 13m frees only with one caveat. Inside the last 5 minutes ( or 3) the option should be available to go for 2.
The other one that annoys me is the keeper and kickout rule. I dont like that the keeper cant be used in his own half. I think that that one should be reversed.. The keeper should be part of play inside the 20m line and 2 point arc and not allowed outside that zone. That would include kick outs. He must kick beyond the 2 point arc but can receive the pass back from the receiver. Its too hard atm to restart the game. This would still hold some peril for the keeper on the shorter ones but it also would require the opposition to push up a bit on the kickout creating some space in the middle third.
A former intercounty keeper I know returned for his club recently after being retired for 3 years. He doesnt like the keeper rule at all. Its his first experience of it on the pitch and he says he wouldnt have been a keeper if it was there when he was starting out. Keeping is boring now. He also reckons that a lot of keepers of his generation would have struggled with the kick outs. They just wouldnt have the length required. He struggles on that himself from what I saw in the game I watched recently." It doesn't take much coaching to learn to kick out the ball a range of ways and lengths.
If you look at any of the keepers who really kick it long, they aren't belting the ball at all. They are just striking it cleanly.
Youtube is full of tips on how to properly kick the ball. We have moved on from the old days when a coach thought that shouting at you louder would convince a young lad to kick it longer, as if motivation was the key factor.
I would say that the keep should be allowed get involved in the play, just not directly from a pass back.
I would take the special jersey away and just let a team play rotating keeper. Always having to keep a man inside the large parallelogram.
tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1772 - 27/04/2026 12:01:18
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Replying To tirawleybaron: "It doesn't take much coaching to learn to kick out the ball a range of ways and lengths.
If you look at any of the keepers who really kick it long, they aren't belting the ball at all. They are just striking it cleanly.
Youtube is full of tips on how to properly kick the ball. We have moved on from the old days when a coach thought that shouting at you louder would convince a young lad to kick it longer, as if motivation was the key factor.
I would say that the keep should be allowed get involved in the play, just not directly from a pass back.
I would take the special jersey away and just let a team play rotating keeper. Always having to keep a man inside the large parallelogram." Of course it takes a lot of coaching to do anything well at elite level. YouTube is full of videos showing me how to drive a golf ball straighter and longer. Its not going to make me into a professional or even scratch golfer.
The kickout is merely the restarting of the game after a score or a wide. I think we have lost sight of that.
The point that I was trying to make is that playing in goals is not considered fun anymore. The keeper is no longer a part of the team in his own half anyway. Hes a spectator. The one aspect of play that he is involved in is the kickout and he cant assist his team mate if they are in trouble off the back of his kockout. Thats not fun for anyone and this applies to kids aswell. That was the point that was being made. Im not even challenging the distance it must travel, just the option to go back to the keeper. There is a bonus to the game too. It can create space to play out as the opposition push up on the keeper.
I dont think that the rule makers ever intended the kickout/restart to be so difficult for teams to retain possession. Yet every weekend we see underage teams pinned in their own 45 because its so difficult to retain possession and so easy to defend.
Tadhg2020 (Limerick) - Posts: 247 - 27/04/2026 13:02:36
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Replying To Tadhg2020: "Of course it takes a lot of coaching to do anything well at elite level. YouTube is full of videos showing me how to drive a golf ball straighter and longer. Its not going to make me into a professional or even scratch golfer.
The kickout is merely the restarting of the game after a score or a wide. I think we have lost sight of that.
The point that I was trying to make is that playing in goals is not considered fun anymore. The keeper is no longer a part of the team in his own half anyway. Hes a spectator. The one aspect of play that he is involved in is the kickout and he cant assist his team mate if they are in trouble off the back of his kockout. Thats not fun for anyone and this applies to kids aswell. That was the point that was being made. Im not even challenging the distance it must travel, just the option to go back to the keeper. There is a bonus to the game too. It can create space to play out as the opposition push up on the keeper.
I dont think that the rule makers ever intended the kickout/restart to be so difficult for teams to retain possession. Yet every weekend we see underage teams pinned in their own 45 because its so difficult to retain possession and so easy to defend." Making it more difficult for teams to come out with the ball was the point of the no backpass to keeper rule. Under old rules it was way too easy and basically no point in pressing defenders coming out with ball as they always had an extra man, the keeper as an out ball option.
systematic (Galway) - Posts: 266 - 27/04/2026 16:16:06
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Replying To Tadhg2020: "Of course it takes a lot of coaching to do anything well at elite level. YouTube is full of videos showing me how to drive a golf ball straighter and longer. Its not going to make me into a professional or even scratch golfer.
The kickout is merely the restarting of the game after a score or a wide. I think we have lost sight of that.
The point that I was trying to make is that playing in goals is not considered fun anymore. The keeper is no longer a part of the team in his own half anyway. Hes a spectator. The one aspect of play that he is involved in is the kickout and he cant assist his team mate if they are in trouble off the back of his kockout. Thats not fun for anyone and this applies to kids aswell. That was the point that was being made. Im not even challenging the distance it must travel, just the option to go back to the keeper. There is a bonus to the game too. It can create space to play out as the opposition push up on the keeper.
I dont think that the rule makers ever intended the kickout/restart to be so difficult for teams to retain possession. Yet every weekend we see underage teams pinned in their own 45 because its so difficult to retain possession and so easy to defend." It is noticeable that in the adult mens game - kick out retention is around 65%. Thats where we want it to be - you lose 1 out of 3.
Not sure how that translates to underage, but its probably closer to 50/50 as kick out stratedgy is not a big thing. However, 50/50 is fine for a restart at underage.
The reason the Arc and no back pass was brought in was to take away the 85% retention, which made the game boring,
I prefer the contest for possession.
But i don't think that the GK should be confined to goals without being allowed go up the field and attack from his own half.
tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1772 - 27/04/2026 16:22:54
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Replying To tirawleybaron: "It is noticeable that in the adult mens game - kick out retention is around 65%. Thats where we want it to be - you lose 1 out of 3.
Not sure how that translates to underage, but its probably closer to 50/50 as kick out stratedgy is not a big thing. However, 50/50 is fine for a restart at underage.
The reason the Arc and no back pass was brought in was to take away the 85% retention, which made the game boring,
I prefer the contest for possession.
But i don't think that the GK should be confined to goals without being allowed go up the field and attack from his own half." The no back pass was in long before the 2 point arc. It was in when the keeper only had to pass the 20m line and small D for a legit kick out. Teams also could shuffle back as many players as they wanted and set up defensively which most did regularly.
The rule change for the keeper is not that he cant receive the pass back from the kickout. Its that he cant receive the ball from any team mate at any time within his own half. Thats what makes it boring to play in goals now. I cant imagine how difficult it must be to convince a 12 year old to go in goals now.
Add in the pressure that has been added to the kickout. It now has to travel 27 plus metres to be legal kick out compared to 13 or whatever it was under old rules. That means the short one is no longer short. Its a tough execute under pressure. Its in that context that I would advocate reviewing the goal keeper receiving it back. That and the fact that its so much easier for the defending team to turn your kickout into an attacking option for them that it is for you to do so if you retain possession. All they have to do is punch it forward as they are facing the ball. You dont have that option.
Tadhg2020 (Limerick) - Posts: 247 - 27/04/2026 17:31:00
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Replying To Tadhg2020: "The no back pass was in long before the 2 point arc. It was in when the keeper only had to pass the 20m line and small D for a legit kick out. Teams also could shuffle back as many players as they wanted and set up defensively which most did regularly.
The rule change for the keeper is not that he cant receive the pass back from the kickout. Its that he cant receive the ball from any team mate at any time within his own half. Thats what makes it boring to play in goals now. I cant imagine how difficult it must be to convince a 12 year old to go in goals now.
Add in the pressure that has been added to the kickout. It now has to travel 27 plus metres to be legal kick out compared to 13 or whatever it was under old rules. That means the short one is no longer short. Its a tough execute under pressure. Its in that context that I would advocate reviewing the goal keeper receiving it back. That and the fact that its so much easier for the defending team to turn your kickout into an attacking option for them that it is for you to do so if you retain possession. All they have to do is punch it forward as they are facing the ball. You dont have that option." It's not difficult at all to convince young players to play in goal, and certainly no more difficult than when I was playing underage when a goalkeeper's role was even more limited. On the one hand you say being a goalkeeper is more boring because they can't take a pass in their own half, on the other you say they're now under more pressure due to how accurate they have to be with their kickouts. You can't have it both ways.
A football goalkeeper is one of, if not the most important player on the pitch now. There's nothing boring about that. They're absolutely crucial to a team's success.
WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2774 - 27/04/2026 23:21:30
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Replying To WanPintWin: "It's not difficult at all to convince young players to play in goal, and certainly no more difficult than when I was playing underage when a goalkeeper's role was even more limited. On the one hand you say being a goalkeeper is more boring because they can't take a pass in their own half, on the other you say they're now under more pressure due to how accurate they have to be with their kickouts. You can't have it both ways.
A football goalkeeper is one of, if not the most important player on the pitch now. There's nothing boring about that. They're absolutely crucial to a team's success." It's moved on from the days when you stuck the least talented lad there out of the way.
Seanfan (Roscommon) - Posts: 512 - 28/04/2026 09:56:54
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