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Back in the real world, with the FRC recommendations approved games are going to end after the ball goes dead after the hooter. They are going to have guys ballooning the ball out of play into people's back gardens! legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8638 - 11/03/2025 13:21:25 2595937 Link 0 |
Two questions - omahant (USA) - Posts: 3166 - 11/03/2025 13:54:46 2595941 Link 0 |
The change to the hooter system is the only call. tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1288 - 11/03/2025 14:49:45 2595951 Link 0 |
On 2) It is true that 4 outfield defenders staying back could play piggy in the middle against 3 forwards, with the keeper in the other half. Should the opposition be brave to push up in that scenario really? If it was to become a problem for any reason in the real world, I'm sure there will be another tweak to the rule! legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8638 - 11/03/2025 16:50:39 2595969 Link 0 |
The rule was tweaked because most intercounty managers refuse to push up on the opposition and have got used to sitting back in a "low block". This poor tactic allowed the goalkeeper to come up and hand pass the ball around. The same thing can still happen if the defending team sit in a low block (often while behind on the scoreboard). We shouldn't be constantly changing rules because managers don't like it though. I still think allowing the keeper up is the best way to discourage the "low block" defense. By keeping the keeper out of it, the defensive minded coach can stick to that style of play with less chance of being punished. tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1288 - 11/03/2025 18:08:10 2595983 Link 0 |
Current rules should have stayed in place until the next competition, makes zero sense to be changing things with two rounds of league action to play. Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3563 - 11/03/2025 18:38:31 2595987 Link 0 |
Don't tell me they're going to post the scoring in the Aussie rules like fashion. I may be old school but the 2 pointers are not required, a goal sets a game a light, I think the new rule will take from this. realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8712 - 11/03/2025 19:18:14 2595989 Link 0 |
Yet more nonsense from this clueless FRC… Gaelic Football is as good as finished with all these nonsensical changes… It's now some sort of mish mash Aussie rules /Rugby hybrid game…. where you'd need an accountant to keep track of the score..!
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3678 - 11/03/2025 19:32:12 2595992 Link 0 |
are the new twakes for this weekend or are they for the championship, I'm all confused maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1226 - 11/03/2025 20:35:25 2596000 Link 0 |
The powers that be like making 1 rule and making 2 problems. There is no definitive right or wrong with keeping 4 back. All depends on the circumstance is a cop out. Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2271 - 11/03/2025 21:31:30 2596011 Link 0 |
In my experience the new rules are there for good the gaa never want admit they get anything wrong brinjg minor to under 17 bad call and everyone admits it but Gaa won't change it they actually don't care what ordinary members think I doubt majority of ordinary members would vote all these stupid changes in frc have ruined our game in actual fact it's a complete different game in reality they prob need a new trophy for winners because it's not a Gaelic football company anymore , black , yellow red card spray foam hooter players now told they can go where they want on field the mark advantage rule like rugby keep going until u get score joke Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 1034 - 11/03/2025 22:18:34 2596017 Link 1 |
Agree with you totally realdub… the FRC have made a farce of this
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3678 - 11/03/2025 22:36:43 2596021 Link 0 |
FRC must stand for Farcical Ruling Clowns…! ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3678 - 12/03/2025 07:00:44 2596028 Link 0 |
Straight away. I have to say the game has become over complicated. It's going to cause mayhem at club level. We already have a referee shortage.
yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11512 - 12/03/2025 07:25:18 2596029 Link 1 |
absolutely, and its a managers game
maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1226 - 12/03/2025 09:26:04 2596035 Link 1 |
Someone said the road to hell is paved with good intentions, I agree with you it is a totally different game and the new rules are confusing. We wont really know until we get into the white heat of Championship when there is really something on the line but I think it's not the game I grew up with, but we'll give it a chance, confidence isn't high on my part though. Then again the defensive keep ball borefest before this was killing the game too. New rules and Championship structure, these were the nuts they had to crack, I don't think they have cracked those nuts and it might even be worse than it was. Anyway roll on the Championship, I foresee and Ulster Championship game, a team is a point up, a ref decides to march a dubious free 50 mts forward into a 2 point opportunity, player kicks the 2 pointer and wins the game, wouldn't like to be that poor ref who's dong his best with the new rules. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3149 - 12/03/2025 10:10:55 2596040 Link 0 |
The reasons managers weren't pushing up. Is because the extra man advantage front the keeper makes it very difficult to turn over the ball and allows an easier overlap. Removing the keeper allows teams to push up. It is just not an option when the keeper is an extra man. It was not a bad tactic instead it was the only viable tactic because of the keeper.
Sssthe (Mayo) - Posts: 59 - 12/03/2025 11:59:30 2596059 Link 0 |
Tackling in your own half isn't pushing up - its just defending - pushing up (in my mind) is putting pressure on the opposition in the oppositions half. The reasons teams weren't pushing up is because they all gave that up 2-3 years ago and now need a mindset change. When the keeper was allowed forward (or the first 5 league matches), you could push up on a team in their own half when they had the ball and the keeper was a non entity. Sitting back allowed him get on the ball. Going forward, I think the defensive coaches (Paddy Tally is a good yard stick) will now defend zonally in a "low block" much safe now there is less attackers. tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1288 - 12/03/2025 12:27:56 2596063 Link 0 |
What's a dubious free? Its either a free or it isn't. The punishment should fit the crime. The punishment shouldn't be reduced in case the judge got it wrong. tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1288 - 12/03/2025 12:29:49 2596064 Link 0 |
I think it would be fair to say that, even prior to these latest "new rules " the game had moved miles away from what us older ones grew up with. Every position on the field was important. Your team was built around the spine, full back, centre half back, midfielders, centre half forward and full forward. The other positions were fleshed out around this. That format and the game as it was played out is a few years gone now
Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1549 - 12/03/2025 12:31:00 2596065 Link 0 |