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Also the closer you are to the sideline the worse your view of the posts is, closer in to the posts is easier. Could do a variation of basketball 3 point zone, parallel to sideline from the end line, then join both sides with an arc 45m from the posts. A lot easier in basketball to stand right angles to the hoop when shooting than getting your angles right in gaelic football to kick long range points.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7651 - 31/05/2024 18:10:52 2548604 Link 0 |
I'd maybe keep the mark if kick passes were from outside the 45 but had to land inside the 21. Difficult to referee that though i suppose. These wee dink passes from outside the 45 ten yards away to another lad inside the 45 are a total piss take.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9518 - 01/06/2024 07:56:03 2548641 Link 1 |
A think a more sensible rule would be if a player continues to take shots from the 45 near the sideline he should be taken off!
sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 793 - 01/06/2024 11:30:10 2548669 Link 1 |
I know this may seem bizarre but with the predictability and slow play around the middle, I wonder would there ever be consideration for another set of goalposts at halfway. I mean as silly as it sounds, it would mean there is critical defending/attacking in all areas of the field. There are certain things tried in training games with small numbers and it does actually improve things. I mean as it is, everyone plays everywhere nowadays so why not eliminate the slow build up around the middle in that there is a chance of a score in most areas of the pitch. Obviously can't score in through same posts twice in a row and there has to be a time limit between plays. Pitch length as in rectangular not ideal but I mean something must change. winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 583 - 03/06/2024 17:01:32 2549223 Link 0 |
I'd just prefer an inter-zone kick requirement: Before advancing the ball to the attacking half, the defence must either: 1) kick from behind own 45 to beyond own 65; or instead, 2) kick across both 65s. Violation leads to free kick at midfield. omahant (USA) - Posts: 2887 - 04/06/2024 14:40:32 2549439 Link 0 |
The idea is to increase the reward for taking the riskier kick. Say, a team only scores 70% of the time long range and 100% short range - that is 70% of 2 (1.4 pts per attempt) vs the safe 100% of 1 (1 pt per attempt). Which would you rather achieve over the whole match?
omahant (USA) - Posts: 2887 - 04/06/2024 16:09:48 2549472 Link 0 |
I suppose we might be missing the point here. The idea as proposed was to try to find ways improve the game as a spectacle. Presently, in the main, games are becoming borefests.
Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1265 - 04/06/2024 17:35:47 2549500 Link 0 |
I would go with a minus score for going backwards with the play. A poor imitation of another sport that its greatest attribute is rolling around on the ground because an opposition player farted near bye when passing them. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2866 - 09/06/2024 20:30:55 2550415 Link 0 |
That's what never seems to be considered when new rules are introduced: unintended consequences. I like the idea of incentivising players to take long range shots for points. It's seldom seen now because players are coached to retain possession at all costs and try to work the high percentage score from close range. And yes, it can be tedious. The unintended consequence of this rule would be though, as someone has said, teams would stop going for goals as much. So they'd probably have to be made 4 points! ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1256 - 10/06/2024 01:58:44 2550450 Link 0 |
I like the idea but if this rule is for club and county then the arc is a non runner. A couple of old loyal servants put out flags on the sidelines to mark the 20, 45 and 65 lines at our club. There are no lines on the pitch as would be the case in a lot of junior games. dahayeser (Cork) - Posts: 353 - 13/06/2024 10:14:12 2551127 Link 0 |
Yes indeed - but teams won't risk the more exciting long range kick if not rewarded more than the safe short variety.
omahant (USA) - Posts: 2887 - 14/06/2024 00:56:54 2551322 Link 0 |
A try in rugby went from 3 to 5 points in recent years. Why not increase the value of a goal in Gaelic football to 5 points?. Goals win matches, encourage attacking football, and provides entertaining fare for spectators. For hurling, I would be all for increasing the sliotar weight, as massive points totals are routinely racked up from frees and long distance shooting. I would also increase value of a goal to 5 points!
Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 373 - 14/06/2024 01:01:06 2551323 Link 0 |
I'd keep it simple: - Kick over the bar from 40+ metres = 1 pt. - Kick over the bar from 40- metres, only after initially receiving a kick pass from outside the 45 to inside the 20 = 1 pt. - Kick over the bar from 40- metres, without initially receiving that kick pass from outside the 45 to inside the 20 = 0 pts (a wide). - Score a goal from anywhere = 3 pts. omahant (USA) - Posts: 2887 - 14/06/2024 01:08:09 2551324 Link 0 |
A pink rope or 15-cms high border for the arc?
omahant (USA) - Posts: 2887 - 14/06/2024 01:10:39 2551325 Link 0 |
I'd be interested to get feedback on this more streamlined scoring scale.
omahant (USA) - Posts: 2887 - 16/06/2024 17:01:38 2551944 Link 0 |
Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1916 - 16/06/2024 19:53:02 2552001 Link 1 |
Draw an arc and give two points for a kick from outside it. Anything else is over complicated. I do think 4 points is needed for a goal iff a long range point is 2 points. tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1197 - 18/06/2024 04:15:47 2552566 Link 0 |