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Is it needed? tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1399 - 23/05/2024 13:14:02 2546584 Link 0 |
'65s have become too easy, the same as a lot of long range scores in hurling. The GAA should regulate the size of the bas of the hurl imo. Per the rule book the bas shouldn't exceed 13cm in diameter iirc. The majority of hurls in use today are in and around a diameter of 16-18cm in fact. Today's hurlers are extremely skilful but their hurls make it easier for them to control and strike the ball. I'd love to see a game between 2 top teams using a proper regulation hurl. The amount of scores would decrease but the game might actually be more enjoyable with more in play time, more contests for the ball etc. If they are not going to regulate the bas, they should do away with '65s as they currently stand. The majority of '65s come from a piece of great defending, a defender's block or keeper's save etc, it feels unjust that the attacking team then get what amounts to a tap over score. Make them be non-scorable frees or be struck from the ground etc. In football I don't think the conversion rate of '45s is high enough to make a change, but at the same time I wouldn't be against a change where a '45 became a non-scorable free. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13775 - 23/05/2024 14:21:54 2546604 Link 0 |
Am wondering if this thread stems from Martin Breheny's column on the topic. :) Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2435 - 23/05/2024 14:49:28 2546614 Link 1 |
Get rid of both why should a team who have managed to defend and avoid a score be punished by giving the attacking team a free shot. Especially in hurling where it's now a 95%chance of a score ITSCHOLAR (Carlow) - Posts: 298 - 23/05/2024 15:37:40 2546624 Link 0 |
If it became indirect in football, you would have teams going back to their own goalkeeper with it, so it would definitely be a disaster. SouthOfTheGap (Donegal) - Posts: 673 - 23/05/2024 15:51:56 2546626 Link 0 |
You couldn't restart with a kick-out or puck-out. If you got a kick-out or puck-out after playing the ball over your end line, it would mean that any defender under pressure near there would just have to tap the ball across that line, and his team would be rewarded by the pressure being instantly lifted and his goalkeeper having all the time allowed to restart play instead. I much prefer the suggestion of a 65 or 45 being treated as an indirect free. Would be clean and easy to operate too. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2435 - 23/05/2024 15:53:52 2546627 Link 0 |
Do what they do do in the English soccer ball. Award a corner! Onion_Sack (Dublin) - Posts: 247 - 23/05/2024 16:07:44 2546635 Link 0 |
In football just stop the goalkeepers from taking 45's and the chances of a team getting a score from one would drop by about 80%…. In hurling just move the taking point back 10/15 metres thus increasing the difficulty somewhat…! ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 2680 - 23/05/2024 16:24:20 2546642 Link 1 |
I was about to make the same point. Any defender under pressure near his own goal, could simply knock the ball over their own end line. People need to think these things through. I do agree that the 65 has become too easy to score. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2142 - 23/05/2024 19:12:39 2546686 Link 0 |
You know, that's not crazy. You're not going to score from the corner in hurling. (Are you?) And you're basically restarting the game up at the end where the defender put it out, and it's contestable. There'd be huge drama as well, potentially. Would be interesting for football too, dropping a ball in on the square from the corner flag.
Tacaí Liatroma (Leitrim) - Posts: 1099 - 24/05/2024 07:34:59 2546726 Link 0 |
No issue in football. It is tough to convert a 45. Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1878 - 24/05/2024 12:17:58 2546800 Link 0 |
Tough because very few players ( goalkeepers apart ) have the ability to kick a ball off the ground…. and county footballers are supposed to be the elite of the game… heaven help us
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 2680 - 24/05/2024 12:29:24 2546805 Link 0 |
Better again how about we go back to the original rules of the GAA and reintroduce the forfeit point which only comes into play when scores are level. In a draw match whoever concedes the most forfeit points loses. Might be a way for Armagh to progress :) liosbreac6265 (Longford) - Posts: 234 - 24/05/2024 12:29:28 2546806 Link 0 |
A restart from where the 14 metre line meets the side line would be interesting? It's a possible score but tricky. tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1399 - 24/05/2024 12:49:51 2546814 Link 1 |
Only award the 65 (or 45) for "deliberate" tap behind by defender and reward the defence with a puck/kick out for deflecting an attacking shot? omahant (USA) - Posts: 2810 - 24/05/2024 15:23:29 2546861 Link 0 |
Honestly football has became a *******ized sport cos of all the chopping and changing of the rules. I would tread carefully with hurling. Has there been many changes to hurling rules in the last 15 years? football has had too many to count gaelsboy (Leitrim) - Posts: 534 - 29/05/2024 14:23:34 2548165 Link 0 |
Maybe a re-start from the corner but with one defender and one attacker allowed inside the 21, and the keeper can only tackle once either player gets posession and the other players can't get involved until the ball comes outside the 21. StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1777 - 29/05/2024 14:51:30 2548168 Link 0 |
have your 65 or 45 but you can't score directly from one. Next question please tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1168 - 31/05/2024 06:58:38 2548505 Link 0 |
How about make them be taken from the ground like a sideline cut. We have all seen some wonderful points scored from a sideline which is a serious skill. This way only the very best could do it. Even if it's off the ground, move it to 45 yard line rather than 65?
D.Hyde (Roscommon) - Posts: 209 - 31/05/2024 10:21:24 2548524 Link 0 |