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Hurling League Final 2024

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "Going back to final on Saturday night,ref had a decent game..thought black card was very harsh,and I thought the shoulder incident wasn't a booking..two other incidents,Davy Fitz's goal,definitely a question over steps..the challange on Aidan mc Carthy for his second goal,definitely a yellow,bordering on red as it was wreckless and dangerous,led with his boot..thought some players were still trying to buy frees on both teams..I'm really interested to see how the reffing goes from here..hope it's not going to be a controversial year.."
Simulation has crept into hurling in last few years and its an awful blight. Some have tried to speak up about it but it's hard to do as it's perceived in a negative way. So the pity is it's here yo stay until someone has the courage again.

daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1197 - 09/04/2024 11:57:13    2536853

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "Going back to final on Saturday night,ref had a decent game..thought black card was very harsh,and I thought the shoulder incident wasn't a booking..two other incidents,Davy Fitz's goal,definitely a question over steps..the challange on Aidan mc Carthy for his second goal,definitely a yellow,bordering on red as it was wreckless and dangerous,led with his boot..thought some players were still trying to buy frees on both teams..I'm really interested to see how the reffing goes from here..hope it's not going to be a controversial year.."
Johnny Murphy isn't the first referee to ignore the steps rule, and won't be the last. David Fitzgerald also took too many steps for his goal in the semi-final, but he's not the only player that has got away with it. OK, it's not easy to pull a player for five steps, but players are repeatedly getting away with seven, eight and even more steps, in both hurling and football.

midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 583 - 09/04/2024 12:03:27    2536855

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "Going back to final on Saturday night,ref had a decent game..thought black card was very harsh,and I thought the shoulder incident wasn't a booking..two other incidents,Davy Fitz's goal,definitely a question over steps..the challange on Aidan mc Carthy for his second goal,definitely a yellow,bordering on red as it was wreckless and dangerous,led with his boot..thought some players were still trying to buy frees on both teams..I'm really interested to see how the reffing goes from here..hope it's not going to be a controversial year.."
Difficult call by GAA in terms of reffing. Hurling has become hugely entertaining because of its free flowing nature. This has been facilitated by lenient refereeing with piles of fouls been let go in every game. So on one hand it would be great to see more consistent reffing but even if this is achievable at all it would have consequences. If refs standardise on the fussy side it will decrease the entertainment value. If they standardise on the lenient side, player safety may be an issue. In my opinion they will leave well enough alone and we all need to accept that there will be inconsistent and unfair calls and we just hope that on the balance of calls that no team gets unfairly screwed cumulatively and that the best team ultimately wins most games.

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 955 - 09/04/2024 12:16:42    2536862

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Replying To midlands:  "Johnny Murphy isn't the first referee to ignore the steps rule, and won't be the last. David Fitzgerald also took too many steps for his goal in the semi-final, but he's not the only player that has got away with it. OK, it's not easy to pull a player for five steps, but players are repeatedly getting away with seven, eight and even more steps, in both hurling and football."
I'd agree the steps rule is becoming far worse an issue than the handpass. Richie Reid got criticism because of Fitzgeralds goal but the referee has to help him out here. There was 9 steps taken. The first 5 as Reid showed him the endline and for me did his Job.

Youre right in the semi v Tipp again 8 to 9 steps taken before the shot went off. You can't blame David Fitzgerald. He's not getting blown on it.

daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1197 - 09/04/2024 12:49:56    2536870

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Replying To daveboy:  "Simulation has crept into hurling in last few years and its an awful blight. Some have tried to speak up about it but it's hard to do as it's perceived in a negative way. So the pity is it's here yo stay until someone has the courage again."
One team far worse than anyone else for it as well.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 727 - 09/04/2024 13:11:40    2536879

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Replying To anotheralias:  "Difficult call by GAA in terms of reffing. Hurling has become hugely entertaining because of its free flowing nature. This has been facilitated by lenient refereeing with piles of fouls been let go in every game. So on one hand it would be great to see more consistent reffing but even if this is achievable at all it would have consequences. If refs standardise on the fussy side it will decrease the entertainment value. If they standardise on the lenient side, player safety may be an issue. In my opinion they will leave well enough alone and we all need to accept that there will be inconsistent and unfair calls and we just hope that on the balance of calls that no team gets unfairly screwed cumulatively and that the best team ultimately wins most games."
I couldnt agree with you more. I was at the league final on Saturday and it was such an enjoyable contest, as a neutral, esp in the 2nd half when the game really took off.
But if you were to analyse every tackle, 90% could be blown for a foul. Everytime a Kilkenny player emerged from a ruck with the ball he came out of it with 3 fresh bruises - is a deliberate strike with the hurl not a foul?.
We have to except the choice is either let the game flow and accept the couple of missed calls or let the ref do his job and blow every 30seconds.. I prefer a free flowing game.

TomWex (Wexford) - Posts: 85 - 09/04/2024 14:16:50    2536907

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Replying To TomWex:  "I couldnt agree with you more. I was at the league final on Saturday and it was such an enjoyable contest, as a neutral, esp in the 2nd half when the game really took off.
But if you were to analyse every tackle, 90% could be blown for a foul. Everytime a Kilkenny player emerged from a ruck with the ball he came out of it with 3 fresh bruises - is a deliberate strike with the hurl not a foul?.
We have to except the choice is either let the game flow and accept the couple of missed calls or let the ref do his job and blow every 30seconds.. I prefer a free flowing game."
Excellent points .. well made except free flowing game should not be at the expense of multiple bruises and strikes with a hurley to the men on the field. They are human beings not part of the spectacle on in the Tonsn coliseum

PatOLogical (Limerick) - Posts: 1377 - 09/04/2024 15:24:28    2536927

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Replying To thelongridge:  "A sensitive lot on Shannonside. We are just posting a comment on a recent event."
Yes, but none of You ever commented on the Previous events.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4467 - 09/04/2024 15:32:42    2536929

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Replying To TomWex:  "I couldnt agree with you more. I was at the league final on Saturday and it was such an enjoyable contest, as a neutral, esp in the 2nd half when the game really took off.
But if you were to analyse every tackle, 90% could be blown for a foul. Everytime a Kilkenny player emerged from a ruck with the ball he came out of it with 3 fresh bruises - is a deliberate strike with the hurl not a foul?.
We have to except the choice is either let the game flow and accept the couple of missed calls or let the ref do his job and blow every 30seconds.. I prefer a free flowing game."
I was at game and re watched it on T na G where were those heinous strikes with the Hurley referee was a metre away absolute rubbish its a physical game name those incidents please

clooney (Clare) - Posts: 960 - 09/04/2024 15:40:24    2536930

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