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Replying To tireoghainabu: "Catholic parents in the north could have sent their children to state schools if they so wished but declined to do so as they had no wish to see their children grow into loyal British subjects." No harm in that. People are entitled to choose a school that represents their religious faith. thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1879 - 05/04/2024 14:17:17 2535835 Link
If he knows the names of the captains in the finals he attends then that is already a brownie point for him. eslinchickenmaryland (Leitrim) - Posts: 274 - 05/04/2024 15:35:56 2535857 Link
Replying To Seanfanbocht: "Didn't the Catholic hierarchy go to the new Stirmont regime in 1921/2 saying we'll look after our schools if ye give us a few £s/pay teachers? Regime agreed because they knew the hierarchy would keep "manners" on their flock." What did keeping "manners" on their flock consist of? Genuinely intrigued. Your claim assumes that there could be or ever were normal relations between the descendants of the settlers in Ulster and the descendants of the people who they dispossessed. Be like suggesting that you might solve the Palestinian problem by having the kids all sitting in the same classroom! BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3118 - 05/04/2024 16:00:07 2535866 Link
Replying To Seanfanbocht: "Do those "integrated" schools in the North do Gaelic games, Gaeilge, Irish history or geography?" No. points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet (Tyrone) - Posts: 274 - 05/04/2024 16:12:55 2535872 Link
Replying To thelongridge: "No harm in that. People are entitled to choose a school that represents their religious faith." More to do with identity than religion. I went to a Catholic grammar, Omagh CBS, and there was very little / no formal religion in the school. No morning assembly or prayer (and they had morning prayer at the local state grammar), and religion was not even taught at O or A level. In a survey in our O-level class in the 80s, only 2 lads out of the 30 in our class still even said they were Catholic. But what they did teach us was Irish history and culture though - Gaelic games, the Walter Macken trilogy as novels in junior years, strong emphasis on Irish language and history. They imbued us with pride in our history and identity at a time when the forces of the state - political, military and media - were ranged against us. I am forever grateful to the decent men and women of Omagh CBS who taught us to walk tall in the world. Apart from a vocal minority of born-agains, the vast majority of people up North don't give a stuff abut religion. But neither main community wants their kids brought up British, or Irish. points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet (Tyrone) - Posts: 274 - 05/04/2024 16:14:17 2535873 Link
Replying To points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet: "No." Hardly integrated so! Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1950 - 05/04/2024 18:49:22 2535907 Link
Replying To points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet: "More to do with identity than religion. I went to a Catholic grammar, Omagh CBS, and there was very little / no formal religion in the school. No morning assembly or prayer (and they had morning prayer at the local state grammar), and religion was not even taught at O or A level. In a survey in our O-level class in the 80s, only 2 lads out of the 30 in our class still even said they were Catholic. But what they did teach us was Irish history and culture though - Gaelic games, the Walter Macken trilogy as novels in junior years, strong emphasis on Irish language and history. They imbued us with pride in our history and identity at a time when the forces of the state - political, military and media - were ranged against us. I am forever grateful to the decent men and women of Omagh CBS who taught us to walk tall in the world. Apart from a vocal minority of born-agains, the vast majority of people up North don't give a stuff abut religion. But neither main community wants their kids brought up British, or Irish." You obviously have a problem with the whole religion thing, I went to Omagh CBS in the 90's and I have an O'level in religion to prove it. Your statement that only 2 out of 30 identified as catholic is for the birds. From my experience I am pretty sure that everyone in the class identified as catholic. I think mabey the PBP boys have brain washed you. tireoghainabu (Tyrone) - Posts: 338 - 05/04/2024 19:49:20 2535915 Link
Replying To tireoghainabu: "You obviously have a problem with the whole religion thing, I went to Omagh CBS in the 90's and I have an O'level in religion to prove it. Your statement that only 2 out of 30 identified as catholic is for the birds. From my experience I am pretty sure that everyone in the class identified as catholic. I think mabey the PBP boys have brain washed you." Indeed. Whether a person is Catholic or not, we ought to have respect for the faith of our own families and ancestors. It is not even as though those who sneer at it and are attempting to eradicate it from Irish life have anything better to put in its place. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3118 - 05/04/2024 21:23:36 2535932 Link
Replying To eslinchickenmaryland: "If he knows the names of the captains in the finals he attends then that is already a brownie point for him." Ouch! Ha ha. Overthebar53 (Carlow) - Posts: 284 - 06/04/2024 08:22:55 2535956 Link
Lot of time for Jarlath, he's genuinely interested in promoting the Association beyond it's traditional constituency. He said a few things about the flag and anthem which stirred a few rumblings understandably but he's a decent guy with good intentions. Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9785 - 07/04/2024 02:52:32 2536137 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "Indeed. Whether a person is Catholic or not, we ought to have respect for the faith of our own families and ancestors. It is not even as though those who sneer at it and are attempting to eradicate it from Irish life have anything better to put in its place." https://www.ireland.anglican.org/our-faith/church-teaching/the-irish-language-and-the-church-of-ireland A bit of light reading at breakfast for you Barney. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13862 - 07/04/2024 09:08:32 2536144 Link
Replying To Ulsterman: "Lot of time for Jarlath, he's genuinely interested in promoting the Association beyond it's traditional constituency. He said a few things about the flag and anthem which stirred a few rumblings understandably but he's a decent guy with good intentions." He seems genuinely enthused by his role. Not slagging his predecessors but his new style is much more attractive than the dull oul speeches that normally accompany presentations. Agus tá an Gaelann ar a thóil aige. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3118 - 07/04/2024 09:10:44 2536145 Link
Tagann an gaeilge go han-easca cuige. He is just a natural orator with an obvious deep passion for our games and their history. Go neirigh an t-ad leis. Overthebar53 (Carlow) - Posts: 284 - 07/04/2024 23:57:43 2536420 Link
Already a bit more common sense from our new GAA President.... Even end of Aug would work. It is far too condensed as it is. https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2024/0416/1443853-burns-all-ireland-finals-could-return-to-september/ Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3975 - 16/04/2024 13:29:50 2538341 Link
Replying To Fionn: "Already a bit more common sense from our new GAA President.... Even end of Aug would work. It is far too condensed as it is. https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2024/0416/1443853-burns-all-ireland-finals-could-return-to-september/" Its barely are more condensed than pre covid, main change is April club month is gone. TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 16/04/2024 14:03:11 2538346 Link
Replying To Fionn: "Already a bit more common sense from our new GAA President.... Even end of Aug would work. It is far too condensed as it is. https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2024/0416/1443853-burns-all-ireland-finals-could-return-to-september/" There's a massive proviso there - "only if counties adopt uniformed club championships" As it stands, there must be dozens of different club championship systems, e.g.: - dual counties where the same (or roughly the same) structures apply to hurling and football - unfortunately, far too many counties where there's barely a hurling championship at all - and in the case of Kilkenny, a football championship that's over in the space of a few weeks, early in the year (although in fairness to them, they still have more clubs competing in it than many other counties have hurling clubs). Burns isn't understating it when he says that trying to build a master fixtures plan around that would be "totally ridiculous". Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2621 - 16/04/2024 14:22:04 2538348 Link
If it going to interrupt the club championships then I'm not in favour. Current system is fine. It's best for both worlds. Only problem on a personal note is I always go on holiday abroad in the last week of July. But poor me :D DuhallowRed (Cork) - Posts: 301 - 16/04/2024 14:34:41 2538352 Link
Finals should be in September. Hopefully Jarlath will remind the accountants that they are our employees. Not event managers. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3118 - 16/04/2024 15:30:30 2538363 Link
Replying To TerribleFootwork: "Its barely are more condensed than pre covid, main change is April club month is gone." It has reduced inter county to a sideshow in comparison to rival sports. Starting championship at same time as couch potatoes and media are totally focused on English soccer, and ending it before it takes over again. Then running it off as if it is an embarrassment to get over between hosting concerts, rugby matches, conferences and trying to pimp our stadiums off to UEFA.. Enough already! BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3118 - 16/04/2024 15:48:19 2538367 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "Finals should be in September. Hopefully Jarlath will remind the accountants that they are our employees. Not event managers." Agree. St.Mologga (Cork) - Posts: 121 - 16/04/2024 16:56:29 2538377 Link