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Great win for Carlow today to secure promotion with a game to spare.

Division 1B hurling for themselves and probably Laois or Down.

carlovia (None) - Posts: 1517 - 10/03/2024 17:16:16    2530606

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Carlow are flying. Great follow up to last year's McDonagh. Laois will be expected to join them in the final and 1B. London and Donegal currently in the 2B semi-final spots to join Derry in Division 2 next year. It'll be a step up for London and Donegal but I suppose the new format is to give some teams at least a year of some tougher games.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7889 - 10/03/2024 17:49:41    2530612

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Replying To legendzxix:  "Carlow are flying. Great follow up to last year's McDonagh. Laois will be expected to join them in the final and 1B. London and Donegal currently in the 2B semi-final spots to join Derry in Division 2 next year. It'll be a step up for London and Donegal but I suppose the new format is to give some teams at least a year of some tougher games."
Interesting last round in store. Basically Kildare & Down both have to win and it's score difference that will decide who joins Laois in semi? Kildare will fancy chances at home v a probably weakened & already qualified Carlow while Down are at home to Meath.

HurlingObserver (Down) - Posts: 60 - 10/03/2024 19:36:52    2530640

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Replying To HurlingObserver:  "Interesting last round in store. Basically Kildare & Down both have to win and it's score difference that will decide who joins Laois in semi? Kildare will fancy chances at home v a probably weakened & already qualified Carlow while Down are at home to Meath."
I'd see Down as favourites to qualify for the semi-finals. Kildare have competed well. I don't see how it's good for hurling to have Kildare in the Ring. Expanding the McDonagh to 8 would be a better. Top 4 after 7 rounds going into semi-finals.
Carlow and Laois will be taking on Dublin and Waterford in next year's league.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7889 - 11/03/2024 21:03:51    2530822

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Replying To legendzxix:  "I'd see Down as favourites to qualify for the semi-finals. Kildare have competed well. I don't see how it's good for hurling to have Kildare in the Ring. Expanding the McDonagh to 8 would be a better. Top 4 after 7 rounds going into semi-finals.
Carlow and Laois will be taking on Dublin and Waterford in next year's league."
Am I correct in assuming it's two up, two down between the top two divisions from next year on?

35OLT (USA) - Posts: 90 - 12/03/2024 15:11:39    2530921

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Replying To 35OLT:  "Am I correct in assuming it's two up, two down between the top two divisions from next year on?"
Yes, five divisions of seven. Two and two down. Waterford and Dublin will expect to be promoted from 1B. The two relegated from 1A will only expect to be in the division for one year. That was the major selling point.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7889 - 12/03/2024 16:49:21    2530931

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Replying To HurlingObserver:  "Interesting last round in store. Basically Kildare & Down both have to win and it's score difference that will decide who joins Laois in semi? Kildare will fancy chances at home v a probably weakened & already qualified Carlow while Down are at home to Meath."
If Meath were to beat Down and Carlow and Laois both win v Kildare and Kerry respectively, then Meath would slip in, in third place. Everyone still has some degree of skin in the game come the last round!

Passer_By (Carlow) - Posts: 510 - 13/03/2024 08:08:35    2530981

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All very tight - Think Down need to win by 5 points to qualify. Sheridan's late goal could prove crucial.

HurlingObserver (Down) - Posts: 60 - 16/03/2024 14:01:54    2531357

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Replying To Passer_By:  "If Meath were to beat Down and Carlow and Laois both win v Kildare and Kerry respectively, then Meath would slip in, in third place. Everyone still has some degree of skin in the game come the last round!"
Some last 20 mins by Down to dig it out and down to 14 men. Well done all.

HurlingObserver (Down) - Posts: 60 - 16/03/2024 14:39:20    2531362

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Laois will be at home versus Down in the semi-final. Winner plays Carlow in the final. Laois v Down semi-final winner will be promoted to Division 1B.
Laois will be the favourites to make the final. Down, Kildare, Kerry and Meath will be battling for the the top 2 in Division 2 next year. The two Division 2 finalists next year will be in Division 1B in the following year. There will be two big counties relegated from Division 1A next year. Based on this year, two of Wexford, Tipperary or Cork are likely to be relegated from 1A next year.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7889 - 16/03/2024 15:44:27    2531385

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Replying To HurlingObserver:  "Some last 20 mins by Down to dig it out and down to 14 men. Well done all."
Oh hats off Observer. That was a permutation/observation rather than a prediction! Beat the Laois crowd now - ye have my best wishes there lol

Passer_By (Carlow) - Posts: 510 - 16/03/2024 16:59:13    2531419

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Replying To Passer_By:  "Oh hats off Observer. That was a permutation/observation rather than a prediction! Beat the Laois crowd now - ye have my best wishes there lol"
We don't like to get ahead of ourselves Passer - Laois a tough place to go but wouldn't bet again this group.

HurlingObserver (Down) - Posts: 60 - 16/03/2024 18:15:02    2531448

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Replying To legendzxix:  "Laois will be at home versus Down in the semi-final. Winner plays Carlow in the final. Laois v Down semi-final winner will be promoted to Division 1B.
Laois will be the favourites to make the final. Down, Kildare, Kerry and Meath will be battling for the the top 2 in Division 2 next year. The two Division 2 finalists next year will be in Division 1B in the following year. There will be two big counties relegated from Division 1A next year. Based on this year, two of Wexford, Tipperary or Cork are likely to be relegated from 1A next year."
How do you mean based on this year? Our 2nd string/League side beat Galways second string, drew with Clares, and drew and beat Kilkennys. The only side we lost to were Cork today, who had their 1st string out against our 2nd string. We even had a 20 year old lad start who was making his Senior hurling debut this afternoon!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12114 - 16/03/2024 20:32:02    2531514

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Derry, Donegal and Tyrone will be in Division 2 next year. With Down likely to remain in Division 2 (2A equivalent), Division 2 will be something of an Ulster Championship.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7889 - 17/03/2024 15:58:03    2531688

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Replying To legendzxix:  "Derry, Donegal and Tyrone will be in Division 2 next year. With Down likely to remain in Division 2 (2A equivalent), Division 2 will be something of an Ulster Championship."
Potentially Antrim also

upandwin (Down) - Posts: 112 - 19/03/2024 13:32:38    2532134

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Replying To upandwin:  "Potentially Antrim also"
Antrim will be in 1B along with Dublin, Waterford, Westmeath, Offaly, Carlow and Laois or Down.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7889 - 19/03/2024 19:21:33    2532229

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Replying To legendzxix:  "Antrim will be in 1B along with Dublin, Waterford, Westmeath, Offaly, Carlow and Laois or Down."
That will be a competitive league.

The GAP between Munster, KK, Galway and the rest is too much currently

upandwin (Down) - Posts: 112 - 20/03/2024 14:42:23    2532337

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derry by 5
dublin by 2
kerry by 3
mayo by 2

div 2
cavan by 4
armagh by 3
donefgal by 2
louth by 3

div 3
antrim by 2
clare by 1
offaly by 4
westmeath by 5

div 4
carlow by 3
laois by 6
wexford by 2
l;eitrim by 1

mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1807 - 20/03/2024 15:09:25    2532345

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Replying To upandwin:  "That will be a competitive league.

The GAP between Munster, KK, Galway and the rest is too much currently"
Waterford are a Munster county upandwin. Wexford haven't lost a game of any sort to Kilkenny in 3 years, not since 2021.
As far as the League goes we've won one and lost one against Limerick in the past 4 seasons, and won two, drawn one and lost one against Clare in the past 4 seasons, 2021 to 2024. We only beat Waterford 10 days ago, and we won one and lost 2 to Cork in the past 4 seasons. We have won one and lost one against Galway in that time also.
So what gap are you talking about?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12114 - 20/03/2024 15:31:58    2532347

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Replying To Viking66:  "Waterford are a Munster county upandwin. Wexford haven't lost a game of any sort to Kilkenny in 3 years, not since 2021.
As far as the League goes we've won one and lost one against Limerick in the past 4 seasons, and won two, drawn one and lost one against Clare in the past 4 seasons, 2021 to 2024. We only beat Waterford 10 days ago, and we won one and lost 2 to Cork in the past 4 seasons. We have won one and lost one against Galway in that time also.
So what gap are you talking about?"
Fair point - Wexford would be included as being above the rest of the hurling world also. Would throw Dublin in their too usually but they seem to have dropped off big time this year. Although seem to put in a respectable performance against Galway.

Hope ye's have a competitive championship

upandwin (Down) - Posts: 112 - 20/03/2024 17:49:37    2532382

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