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Quick question for Cork people. Saw highlights of some of recent Cork games, why are Cork not wearing red jerseys (they are wearing a mainly black jersey)?

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1365 - 10/03/2024 13:39:44    2530575

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Replying To bdbuddah:  "Quick question for Cork people. Saw highlights of some of recent Cork games, why are Cork not wearing red jerseys (they are wearing a mainly black jersey)?"
They're in mourning for the loss of their Sam Maguire status!

The Cork hurlers have such jerseys ready too for next season: 20 years without Liam!

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1959 - 10/03/2024 18:56:14    2530632

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Replying To bdbuddah:  "Quick question for Cork people. Saw highlights of some of recent Cork games, why are Cork not wearing red jerseys (they are wearing a mainly black jersey)?"
They've announced they're reverting back to red jerseys going forward.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5033 - 11/03/2024 08:55:46    2530694

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Replying To bdbuddah:  "Quick question for Cork people. Saw highlights of some of recent Cork games, why are Cork not wearing red jerseys (they are wearing a mainly black jersey)?"
We will be back to traditional Red & White for the championship.
Over the league we have sported these training tops, which I assume are aimed at the younger market.

We had a beautiful black top recently enough, just it was spoiled by a large "CHILL Insurance " accross the chest.

St.Mologga (Cork) - Posts: 110 - 11/03/2024 09:21:01    2530698

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Replying To St.Mologga:  "We will be back to traditional Red & White for the championship.
Over the league we have sported these training tops, which I assume are aimed at the younger market.

We had a beautiful black top recently enough, just it was spoiled by a large "CHILL Insurance " accross the chest."
That's good. The red Cork jersey is kinda iconic in the GAA, probably because of the Cork-Tipp or Cork-Kerry matches.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1365 - 11/03/2024 19:06:53    2530805

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Replying To bdbuddah:  "That's good. The red Cork jersey is kinda iconic in the GAA, probably because of the Cork-Tipp or Cork-Kerry matches."
Speaking of jerseys the Meath jersey 1987/1988 was a classic offering, the green jersey with yellow piping, iconic player's & Sean Boylan weaving his spell, all blended together to create an unbreakable team with an iron will, who could play seriously good football as well.

St.Mologga (Cork) - Posts: 110 - 12/03/2024 09:23:33    2530841

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Replying To St.Mologga:  "Speaking of jerseys the Meath jersey 1987/1988 was a classic offering, the green jersey with yellow piping, iconic player's & Sean Boylan weaving his spell, all blended together to create an unbreakable team with an iron will, who could play seriously good football as well."
dublin had the type of jersey that era but nobody seems to remember it ? wore it from 88 to 90 i think maybe 87 as well? its very rare you see it now in old pics or videos compared with the meath jersey. they definitley had it on in 1990 leinster final

dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 702 - 12/03/2024 09:46:08    2530847

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Replying To dickie10:  "dublin had the type of jersey that era but nobody seems to remember it ? wore it from 88 to 90 i think maybe 87 as well? its very rare you see it now in old pics or videos compared with the meath jersey. they definitley had it on in 1990 leinster final"
You spot on, I think the Dublin crest might have been different too, to celebrate the Millennium, referring to Dublin's formation under Viking rule.

I think the 50 pence coin around that time had the same design as the Dublin jersey on it to mark this event.
While in rugby Ireland & England played for a Millennium cup as well.

St.Mologga (Cork) - Posts: 110 - 12/03/2024 10:59:25    2530863

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Replying To St.Mologga:  "Speaking of jerseys the Meath jersey 1987/1988 was a classic offering, the green jersey with yellow piping, iconic player's & Sean Boylan weaving his spell, all blended together to create an unbreakable team with an iron will, who could play seriously good football as well."
Good tiimes all right.
The Meath Cork rivalry was great back then.
Unfortunately it's a long time since Meath had a rivalry like that, you have to be competitive to get something like that.
Hopefully the Meath and Cork footballers can get back to the top, who knows, maybe reignite a rivalry.
Last time I was down in Cork I used Google maps to find Larry Tompkins pub and was disappointed when I got there to find it was no longer in business.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1365 - 12/03/2024 14:33:44    2530914

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Replying To St.Mologga:  "You spot on, I think the Dublin crest might have been different too, to celebrate the Millennium, referring to Dublin's formation under Viking rule.

I think the 50 pence coin around that time had the same design as the Dublin jersey on it to mark this event.
While in rugby Ireland & England played for a Millennium cup as well."
I think the earlier Dublin Jersey with the vertical lines on it is probably more iconic for them.
I think Down had a similar Jersey to us that time also (just from remembering a program from 87 where the Down minors were playing).

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1365 - 12/03/2024 14:37:30    2530916

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Replying To bdbuddah:  "Good tiimes all right.
The Meath Cork rivalry was great back then.
Unfortunately it's a long time since Meath had a rivalry like that, you have to be competitive to get something like that.
Hopefully the Meath and Cork footballers can get back to the top, who knows, maybe reignite a rivalry.
Last time I was down in Cork I used Google maps to find Larry Tompkins pub and was disappointed when I got there to find it was no longer in business."
Yeah that pub is closed with a while, twas a hot spot in the 1990's/2000's.
In relation to Meath & ourselves, the 1st hurdle for both sides is to ply our trade in Division 1 football, & get accustomed again to quality football week upon week.
The issue of exiting Division 2 is easier said then done & Division 3 is a real possibility for us.

St.Mologga (Cork) - Posts: 110 - 14/03/2024 09:40:01    2531095

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Replying To bdbuddah:  "I think the earlier Dublin Jersey with the vertical lines on it is probably more iconic for them.
I think Down had a similar Jersey to us that time also (just from remembering a program from 87 where the Down minors were playing)."
In general in my opinion the late 1980's saw many inter county sides sport wonderful jerseys.
Galway, Tipperary, Kerry, Dublin, Tyrone, Mayo, Offaly, Roscommon, etc

St.Mologga (Cork) - Posts: 110 - 14/03/2024 09:43:37    2531096

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Replying To bdbuddah:  "Good tiimes all right.
The Meath Cork rivalry was great back then.
Unfortunately it's a long time since Meath had a rivalry like that, you have to be competitive to get something like that.
Hopefully the Meath and Cork footballers can get back to the top, who knows, maybe reignite a rivalry.
Last time I was down in Cork I used Google maps to find Larry Tompkins pub and was disappointed when I got there to find it was no longer in business."
It was a rivalry yes, but in reality both teams hated each other. Still, it brought out the best in both teams and they dominated football landscape between 1987 and 1990. Should be an even game at the weekend and good to see Meath under Colm O' Rourke putting in good performances. Leinster needs a few teams to challenge Dublin

Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 241 - 14/03/2024 15:38:17    2531139

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Replying To Ryanteam:  "It was a rivalry yes, but in reality both teams hated each other. Still, it brought out the best in both teams and they dominated football landscape between 1987 and 1990. Should be an even game at the weekend and good to see Meath under Colm O' Rourke putting in good performances. Leinster needs a few teams to challenge Dublin"
They did but having an edge to it made the rivalary more compelling.
Meeting in 4 finals in 4 seasons (in 88 there was a replay) is why such a big edge came into it.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1365 - 14/03/2024 15:59:19    2531142

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Replying To dickie10:  "dublin had the type of jersey that era but nobody seems to remember it ? wore it from 88 to 90 i think maybe 87 as well? its very rare you see it now in old pics or videos compared with the meath jersey. they definitley had it on in 1990 leinster final"
Yes Dublin and Meath both had the same square pattern jersey design in the '86 Leinster Final, Meath changed into another set at half time given the dreadful conditions. That design lasted with Meath up until and including 1990, although that years Leinster Final was its last championship appearance as I recall as we wore a plain green and white trim jersey against Donegal in the semi final and a one off design in the final v Cork where the pattern was moved to the sleeves and shoulders and An Mhi was emblazoned across the chest for some unknown reason. The jersey reappeared for the '90/91 league but then the standard new design of sleeves in secondary colour and arrows down the sleeves took over in the sponsorship era

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 14/03/2024 16:35:25    2531149

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Uh oh: that time for a quick review ahead of the weekend

Louth v Fermanagh. Both badly need a win here. A win of any sort gets them up a bit and gives a chance for next week, lose and likely are down. Real relegation battle coming up. I'll lean towards Louth. been better overall despite 4 losses, with 3 of those by a point. They're good at home in what is a tight venue with a heavy enough field. They know how to play it so louth to squeak this.

Meath v Cork. No idea how to call this one. Both got back going after poor starts. Meath likely safe, while Cork need another win to be sure of safety. Both in decent form, are both around the same level, and even the bookies can barely split them. This has huge draw potential. Corks need is greater, but meath by sneak this due to home comforts

Kildare v Donegal. Kildare in the horrors. Can't see anything but a Donegal win here. Long trip down to Carlow, but Donegal to keep tuning things up and do the business here. They'll pull away by the end to win by a few scores

Armagh v Cavan. The big one of the weekend. Essentially a promotion decider. Win and your fate is in your hand to get promoted (providing Donegal win their last 2 games). About as close to Championship level as you'll get at this grade, and as Ulster rivals there's no love lost between both. Armagh turned over Cavan last year in Ulster where Cavan didn't turn up or fire a shot. Was way too easy. Armagh have been going well, and Cavan too despite the narrow loss to Donegal and draw last day out to Meath. Cavan were poor last day, they always are when out 3rd week in a row. they'll be rested a bit, and are usually never that bad 2 weeks running. Armagh to scrape this one, but don't be surprised to see Cavan close or even a chance a win if it is very close coming down the straight.

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2422 - 15/03/2024 14:11:45    2531257

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "Uh oh: that time for a quick review ahead of the weekend

Louth v Fermanagh. Both badly need a win here. A win of any sort gets them up a bit and gives a chance for next week, lose and likely are down. Real relegation battle coming up. I'll lean towards Louth. been better overall despite 4 losses, with 3 of those by a point. They're good at home in what is a tight venue with a heavy enough field. They know how to play it so louth to squeak this.

Meath v Cork. No idea how to call this one. Both got back going after poor starts. Meath likely safe, while Cork need another win to be sure of safety. Both in decent form, are both around the same level, and even the bookies can barely split them. This has huge draw potential. Corks need is greater, but meath by sneak this due to home comforts

Kildare v Donegal. Kildare in the horrors. Can't see anything but a Donegal win here. Long trip down to Carlow, but Donegal to keep tuning things up and do the business here. They'll pull away by the end to win by a few scores

Armagh v Cavan. The big one of the weekend. Essentially a promotion decider. Win and your fate is in your hand to get promoted (providing Donegal win their last 2 games). About as close to Championship level as you'll get at this grade, and as Ulster rivals there's no love lost between both. Armagh turned over Cavan last year in Ulster where Cavan didn't turn up or fire a shot. Was way too easy. Armagh have been going well, and Cavan too despite the narrow loss to Donegal and draw last day out to Meath. Cavan were poor last day, they always are when out 3rd week in a row. they'll be rested a bit, and are usually never that bad 2 weeks running. Armagh to scrape this one, but don't be surprised to see Cavan close or even a chance a win if it is very close coming down the straight."
and as Ulster rivals there's no love lost between both.

Maybe it's a Cavan thing but certainly no animosity from ourselves towards Cavan, Down & Tyrone now that's a different story :)

sean og (Armagh) - Posts: 1054 - 15/03/2024 19:30:50    2531291

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Replying To Richieq:  "Yes Dublin and Meath both had the same square pattern jersey design in the '86 Leinster Final, Meath changed into another set at half time given the dreadful conditions. That design lasted with Meath up until and including 1990, although that years Leinster Final was its last championship appearance as I recall as we wore a plain green and white trim jersey against Donegal in the semi final and a one off design in the final v Cork where the pattern was moved to the sleeves and shoulders and An Mhi was emblazoned across the chest for some unknown reason. The jersey reappeared for the '90/91 league but then the standard new design of sleeves in secondary colour and arrows down the sleeves took over in the sponsorship era"
Due to a jersey clash for that fixture, we changed into the Ulster Railway Cup jersey (Black shorts and Gold jersey) and Meath wore the Leinster Railway cup kit (Green jersey and white shorts).

Ulsterchamps72 (Donegal) - Posts: 84 - 15/03/2024 20:26:41    2531293

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Replying To sean og:  "and as Ulster rivals there's no love lost between both.

Maybe it's a Cavan thing but certainly no animosity from ourselves towards Cavan, Down & Tyrone now that's a different story :)"
I dipped on to an Armagh board on a separate site before the Ulster game last year to see the craic, and based on what some of those folk said I wouldn't be believing that. The stuff they talked about Cavan...

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2422 - 15/03/2024 20:42:53    2531295

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "I dipped on to an Armagh board on a separate site before the Ulster game last year to see the craic, and based on what some of those folk said I wouldn't be believing that. The stuff they talked about Cavan..."
Fair enough, just havnt heard it myself.

sean og (Armagh) - Posts: 1054 - 16/03/2024 12:28:31    2531344

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