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Replying To kiloughter:  "Are you joking. Did you see the attendances for provincial championships (1997 to 2000 in particular) in the late nineties across Ulster, Connacht and Leinster. You don't need to wonder if u16s were counted or not. Just look at the footage. Most grounds full or near full. Nowadays it is the opposite. Most grounds partially empty."
Every Dublin football game was sold out for years back then. I also recall being at a Croke Park Ulster match between Armagh and Tyrone or was it Donegal? that was full or close to.

There was even a double header LSHC semi final between Dublin and Cats and Wexford and Offaly in 1996 that must have had more than 60,000. Had to bring people across people between stands!

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2591 - 11/04/2024 11:18:58    2537298

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Yeah, I thought the same at that match last year.
I was surprised how apathetic people were given the consequences of a loss. I never shouted as hard for the Yellowbellies as I did that day and cancelled another plan to make sure I got to it. Partly based on the passionate call to arms on this site as well, but I know how much hurling means to SOME Wexford people."
Just 1 small correction how apathetic SOME people were given the consequences of a loss. I know others like you who madesure they got to that game.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 11/04/2024 12:11:01    2537311

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When the Tailteann Cup starts the attendances will be lucky to hit 1500 mark at majority of the games, more atmosphere at snooker venues, hardly going to help players thrive to produce best performances.

Surely the GAA could reduce the €15 per ticket prices as previous for thoses games.

Makes more sense to have 3000 people paying €10 euro in than 1500 people paying €15 but then logic doesnt always prevail with the GAA.

macca999 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 1099 - 11/04/2024 16:27:53    2537370

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Just 1 small correction how apathetic SOME people were given the consequences of a loss. I know others like you who madesure they got to that game."
Yes for sure. There are also SOME Wexford people who were heartbroken they won.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1140 - 11/04/2024 16:57:14    2537375

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Replying To macca999:  "When the Tailteann Cup starts the attendances will be lucky to hit 1500 mark at majority of the games, more atmosphere at snooker venues, hardly going to help players thrive to produce best performances.

Surely the GAA could reduce the €15 per ticket prices as previous for thoses games.

Makes more sense to have 3000 people paying €10 euro in than 1500 people paying €15 but then logic doesnt always prevail with the GAA."
And what's your 'logic' in thinking that 50% more people would attend if the price was €10 instead of €15?

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2482 - 11/04/2024 17:41:40    2537387

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Replying To 11jm11:  "Expect attendances in Leinster to remain low. I think people outside of Leinster don't fully understand the level of apathy that there is towards the Leinster championship and football at the minute. In my own county, the vast majority of people have just zoned out and who can blame them after seeing countless hammerings from Dublin over the past decade.
If the GAA isn't careful , it will be surpassed by soccer and rugby very soon if not already ."
I'd imagine that most kids under the age of 10 or even 20 have more interest in soccer and or rugby than the gaa right now.
The vast vast majority of counties have no prospect of winning anything meaningful therefore their supporters have nothing to be enthusiastic about, while the gaas refusal to implement a transfer system (which I admit would be difficult) means that however talented a youngster is, if they're not from the right county they're simply better off focusing on a path to a professional sport if they want success.
Even some of the more high profile counties might only play a handful of meaningful games each year, (considering most of their contests are turkey shootsl while the likes of galway united and Connacht rugby might play over 20.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1736 - 11/04/2024 19:12:43    2537399

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "And what's your 'logic' in thinking that 50% more people would attend if the price was €10 instead of €15?"
Well it certainly would increase potential for people to attend and increase attendance given a more reasonable price.

Given current economic climate people definitely would appreciate that, especially considering be 3 group games which if attending all 3 would ge an overall saving of 45 euro

macca999 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 1099 - 11/04/2024 20:36:13    2537415

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Replying To Galway9801:  "I'd imagine that most kids under the age of 10 or even 20 have more interest in soccer and or rugby than the gaa right now.
The vast vast majority of counties have no prospect of winning anything meaningful therefore their supporters have nothing to be enthusiastic about, while the gaas refusal to implement a transfer system (which I admit would be difficult) means that however talented a youngster is, if they're not from the right county they're simply better off focusing on a path to a professional sport if they want success.
Even some of the more high profile counties might only play a handful of meaningful games each year, (considering most of their contests are turkey shootsl while the likes of galway united and Connacht rugby might play over 20."
FAI and IRFU have made huge inroads into the local identity franchise we once had.

We,are going to pay dearly for all this deliberate marginalising of our inter county games by accountants.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2591 - 11/04/2024 22:19:08    2537432

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Ticket sales looking extremely poor for Sunday. Why oh why are the GAA making our games so unattractive. Going up to a basically empty croke park to watch Dublin slaughter Meath is not how most people want to spend their Sunday

LoyalRoyal66 (Meath) - Posts: 82 - 12/04/2024 07:13:49    2537447

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Replying To LoyalRoyal66:  "Ticket sales looking extremely poor for Sunday. Why oh why are the GAA making our games so unattractive. Going up to a basically empty croke park to watch Dublin slaughter Meath is not how most people want to spend their Sunday"
There's lads around Garristown who live for such days :-)

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2591 - 12/04/2024 09:20:58    2537458

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a guy who usually goes to most Meath matches when he can was saying hes going out for a few pints sunday and watch liverpool v palace instead and keep an eye on score of meath game as well, said hes been down that road of going to croke park to watch meath v dublin only for game to be over after 20 mins, and wasting money going into to waych a training session for next hour plus in a freezing croke park. im only going myself just for old time sake. 4:30 pm is a horrific late hour to be going to the likes of this game. the camoigie fans will be half way home id say by the time it throws in

dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 696 - 12/04/2024 09:43:52    2537468

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The good old provincial championships. Absolute waste of time.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7908 - 12/04/2024 09:53:01    2537470

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Replying To macca999:  "Well it certainly would increase potential for people to attend and increase attendance given a more reasonable price.

Given current economic climate people definitely would appreciate that, especially considering be 3 group games which if attending all 3 would ge an overall saving of 45 euro"
I agree that lower prices would increase attendances. But, I doubt lowering the price from €15 to €10 would double the crowd size.
It's a difficult balancing act for GAA clubs and counties. On the one hand, the more gate money they get, the more money to invest in the teams and infrastructure; on the other the higher the prices, the less people attend, with the chance that the people who stop going lose interest in the sport.
I don't know how GAA clubs and finances work. But it would be interesting to know what percentage of overall income, gate money makes up.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2482 - 12/04/2024 09:55:48    2537471

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "I agree that lower prices would increase attendances. But, I doubt lowering the price from €15 to €10 would double the crowd size.
It's a difficult balancing act for GAA clubs and counties. On the one hand, the more gate money they get, the more money to invest in the teams and infrastructure; on the other the higher the prices, the less people attend, with the chance that the people who stop going lose interest in the sport.
I don't know how GAA clubs and finances work. But it would be interesting to know what percentage of overall income, gate money makes up."
Yes its a hard balancing act, as hopefully the majority of income from tickets goes back into supporting teams, especially those with lowest resources.

No guarantee price decrease would double attendance but would definitely encourage more people to got.


I still cant believe that GAA marketing team haven't came up with idea to do a group package ticket for Tailteann Cup and All Ireland groups, surely its a no brainer and would at least get people maybe to commit to all 3 games rather than maybe just picking one fixture.

Surely €25 for 3 Tailteann Cup games and say €35 for All Ireland would be suffice enough

macca999 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 1099 - 12/04/2024 10:23:26    2537479

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Replying To LoyalRoyal66:  "Ticket sales looking extremely poor for Sunday. Why oh why are the GAA making our games so unattractive. Going up to a basically empty croke park to watch Dublin slaughter Meath is not how most people want to spend their Sunday"
Yep and that's more of it.

Again why are Dublin playing in croke park on Sunday? It isn't Dublins fault they are but why?

Meanwhile we have 2 games in portlaoise involving 4 other counties

It should be the other way around, give Wicklow a championship game in croke park, let Louth and Wexford and Kildare bring a crowd.

Let the dubs fill portlaoise and bring an atmosphere along with a support from Meath that will probably feel not being in Croke Park is a help, honestly we don't help ourselves

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1353 - 12/04/2024 10:28:42    2537480

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Every Dublin football game was sold out for years back then. I also recall being at a Croke Park Ulster match between Armagh and Tyrone or was it Donegal? that was full or close to.

There was even a double header LSHC semi final between Dublin and Cats and Wexford and Offaly in 1996 that must have had more than 60,000. Had to bring people across people between stands!"
That hurling double-header was actually 1997 and records show the attendance was 52,000 - largely due to it being Wexford's first championship match since the All-Ireland victory of the previous year.

If we somehow happened to win an All-Ireland again in the next few years, I guarantee you we'd bring big crowds to big championship matches the following year too. But most of them still wouldn't attend League matches that year, or probably the early games in the round-robin, same as they didn't attend League matches back in '97 either.

I remember being in Wexford Park for the visit of Galway that year, and the attendance was less than 5,000. The same year, we played Limerick in the League (i.e. a repeat of the '96 final) in Bellefield in Enniscorthy, which only held about 5,000 anyway. The place was fairly packed all right, but the fact it was fixed for Bellefield in the first place shows that a crowd significantly in excess of 5,000 was never expected in the first place.

By the way, reason they ended up having to bring people across the pitch that day in '97 was because the Hogan Stand was all ticket that day, but they were taking cash at the gate at the Cusack. Most people didn't bother buying a ticket for the Hogan, deciding to just pay on the day instead. So when the Cusack filled up, they had to find somewhere to send the rest of the crowd who were already in the ground and who'd already paid for a place in a stand, and only thing they could do was hold up the first game and send the crowd across the pitch to the Hogan.

I don't think that ticketing system ever operated again after that!

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2258 - 12/04/2024 10:36:51    2537483

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Replying To LoyalRoyal66:  "Ticket sales looking extremely poor for Sunday. Why oh why are the GAA making our games so unattractive. Going up to a basically empty croke park to watch Dublin slaughter Meath is not how most people want to spend their Sunday"
I 100% agree that fixture is not particularly attractive, but what do you suggest the GAA themselves could do to make it any more so?

Any dedicated supporter knows it's likely to be a cakewalk for Dublin. Any casual supporter who might be tempted in by measures like cheap tickets or sideshows or other attractions is unlikely to enjoy the game either, and therefore would be unlikely to return for another one.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2258 - 12/04/2024 10:40:33    2537484

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Back in the day there was less matchs and you went to every championship game because the first might be your last ...now theres this group and that group and tailtean cups etc ...the compressed season means league is on top of championship ensuring no time to generate interest in championship until its nearly over.Outside of All Ireland semis & Finals the Munster Hurling Championship & Ulster Football are the only 2 products with significant interst w
Those in Croke Park seem to be only interested in Concerts or other large Sports big events and forgetting about the grassroots away from Dublin, they cant seem to get the gaa season ran off quick enough and out of the way.

OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 678 - 12/04/2024 13:51:26    2537528

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Replying To OpenStand:  "Back in the day there was less matchs and you went to every championship game because the first might be your last ...now theres this group and that group and tailtean cups etc ...the compressed season means league is on top of championship ensuring no time to generate interest in championship until its nearly over.Outside of All Ireland semis & Finals the Munster Hurling Championship & Ulster Football are the only 2 products with significant interst w
Those in Croke Park seem to be only interested in Concerts or other large Sports big events and forgetting about the grassroots away from Dublin, they cant seem to get the gaa season ran off quick enough and out of the way."
Intercounty hurling season is 2 weeks shorter than 2019 season, the last pre split season and pre covid. So they got rid of the hurling league quarter finals, championship is ran over over 13 weeks instead of 14 and April club month is gone, can people please stop talking this nonsense around compressed season. The issues regards the football championship are around how its structured more than anything else.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 12/04/2024 14:04:50    2537530

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Intercounty hurling season is 2 weeks shorter than 2019 season, the last pre split season and pre covid. So they got rid of the hurling league quarter finals, championship is ran over over 13 weeks instead of 14 and April club month is gone, can people please stop talking this nonsense around compressed season. The issues regards the football championship are around how its structured more than anything else."
Agreed. I've maintained from Day 1 of the split season that people who complain about "the compressed season" or say "put the All-Ireland Finals back to September" have little or no regard for the club game and the club game at all - i.e. probably 99% or more of the GAA's total playing population.

Every inter-county player I know is supportive of the split season too, as it means they know they won't have to try serve two masters at the same time. They can concentrate 100% on the county stuff for as long as they're involved, and then move back to the club afterwards.

I do agree however that there are too many matches during the inter-county season, and particularly in recent years at U17 and U20 level, where there are round-robin groups and 'B' competitions springing up all over the place.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2258 - 12/04/2024 14:18:42    2537532

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