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Replying To points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet:  "Well the reasons for the low attendance at Tyrone v Roscommon is obvious (I live quite near to Omagh, and didn't bother going, nor did anyone I know) - we have zero faith in the current management (and haven't had for years), the lack of motivation in the team is visible from space, there's a couple of club teams in Tyrone who'd beat Tyrone on current form; and most Tyrone fans I know were relieved that we were beaten now instead of making a show of ourselves at a later stage. There's a lot of omerta in the county, and very few outsiders have any idea of how bad morale in the camp is"
Your worst support against us this year was the U20 AI semi final in Cavan. Was mostly family members of the players in attendance and can't say it was zero faith in management there and was a very motivated team. The two U20 lads brought on Saturday have big futures ahead of them and few a better than Tyrone for bringing through underage talent to senior level.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3861 - 25/06/2024 13:44:03    2554748

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "4 "jeopardy" matches last weekend drew around 35,000 people.
Average 8,750.
First 2 Rounds of Group games "non jeopardy" drew c130,000.
Average 8,125.
Not a great argument for "Jeopardy"

Reports of GAA expecting 60k Saturday and 45k Sunday.
Probably a tad optimistic."
The average supporter seems to be growing tired of continuous rounds of games that result in one or two teams being eliminated. I don't think people in the GAA understand the concept of quality over quantity. Throw in team managers trying to coach teams to peak etc and attendances will suffer. Also, some team eliminated last year and this year who've lost on penalties without a reply while there are other teams that have lost multiple teams early on in the competition who have progressed further than the teams who lost on penalties. If the powers that be in the GAA are not paying close attention, they should be.

wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1977 - 25/06/2024 13:53:12    2554752

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Replying To wicklowsupport:  "The average supporter seems to be growing tired of continuous rounds of games that result in one or two teams being eliminated. I don't think people in the GAA understand the concept of quality over quantity. Throw in team managers trying to coach teams to peak etc and attendances will suffer. Also, some team eliminated last year and this year who've lost on penalties without a reply while there are other teams that have lost multiple teams early on in the competition who have progressed further than the teams who lost on penalties. If the powers that be in the GAA are not paying close attention, they should be."
No point winning the bumper at Ballinrobe but finishing last at Cheltenham.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1795 - 25/06/2024 15:50:36    2554801

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Replying To wicklowsupport:  "The average supporter seems to be growing tired of continuous rounds of games that result in one or two teams being eliminated. I don't think people in the GAA understand the concept of quality over quantity. Throw in team managers trying to coach teams to peak etc and attendances will suffer. Also, some team eliminated last year and this year who've lost on penalties without a reply while there are other teams that have lost multiple teams early on in the competition who have progressed further than the teams who lost on penalties. If the powers that be in the GAA are not paying close attention, they should be."
Or maybe they're simply not used to anything bar straight knockout for years and it takes time to change attitudes.
Look at people's attitudes towards and attendances for league over years.

Players want quantity though especially for the level of work they put in for inter County and low number of games for county players isn't near good enough

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3624 - 25/06/2024 16:52:39    2554818

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Replying To macca999:  "13k at Mayo v Derry
6.5k at Galway v Monaghan
6k at Tyrone v Roscommon

Very low attendances again for championship games, each would easily get more people at similar league games, though not a surprise when see crowds over last few months and already JB has identified that change is needed in the structure to cut down on games, currently too many matches in short timeframe and people cant afford it, plus to reintroduce meaning to all games."
Yes, Too many games, too high a cost for the day out, but also supporters are finally voting with their feet on the current brand of football being played. All this talk of a long range score being worth 2 points etc is useless until the rules state that at least 3 players must at all times be inside their opponents 45.

giveitlong (Galway) - Posts: 1254 - 26/06/2024 15:47:04    2554991

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I think most football supporters like to see their team play as many games as possible and the attendances reflect the core support for the various counties at the recent games.When you have a big crowd at a GAA match 3/4 of the crowd are made up of families and people that get caught up in the community hype when a team is doing well.These 3/4 will only attend a few big games a year.Genuine supporters will attend the games unless there are financial reasons.The players I am sure would rather be playing matches than training for months for just a few matches.I for one am happy enough with the system in general.

gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1105 - 27/06/2024 20:09:58    2555254

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Replying To gunman:  "I think most football supporters like to see their team play as many games as possible and the attendances reflect the core support for the various counties at the recent games.When you have a big crowd at a GAA match 3/4 of the crowd are made up of families and people that get caught up in the community hype when a team is doing well.These 3/4 will only attend a few big games a year.Genuine supporters will attend the games unless there are financial reasons.The players I am sure would rather be playing matches than training for months for just a few matches.I for one am happy enough with the system in general."
County players have enough games to play let it be with the county or more importantly with their clubs if they were let … These countless meaningless championship games played in front of paltry crowds are hardly what players are training months for… what good is it doing them..? Sometimes less is more and certainly people have coped on to this by staying away from pointless matches… The Championship only really started last weekend when the knockout effect came into play… The pointless rubbish that went before were glorified challenge games that are only there to extract cash from those fool enough to attend… not too many fell for that old trick…!

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 2680 - 27/06/2024 21:42:15    2555275

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Replying To gunman:  "I think most football supporters like to see their team play as many games as possible and the attendances reflect the core support for the various counties at the recent games.When you have a big crowd at a GAA match 3/4 of the crowd are made up of families and people that get caught up in the community hype when a team is doing well.These 3/4 will only attend a few big games a year.Genuine supporters will attend the games unless there are financial reasons.The players I am sure would rather be playing matches than training for months for just a few matches.I for one am happy enough with the system in general."
Yes you are totally spot on with your assessment. The hype has to be in play for the vast majority of football fans to come out to watch their team .Donegal are an example this year. Their support has upped considerably this year in comparison to last year. The majority of football fans are fickle and will not go games when they know their team are poor or sub standard.

edu (Mayo) - Posts: 58 - 27/06/2024 23:17:44    2555290

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "County players have enough games to play let it be with the county or more importantly with their clubs if they were let … These countless meaningless championship games played in front of paltry crowds are hardly what players are training months for… what good is it doing them..? Sometimes less is more and certainly people have coped on to this by staying away from pointless matches… The Championship only really started last weekend when the knockout effect came into play… The pointless rubbish that went before were glorified challenge games that are only there to extract cash from those fool enough to attend… not too many fell for that old trick…!"
180,000

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1795 - 27/06/2024 23:42:01    2555292

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "180,000"
A poor return for that amount of matches… as I say only fools can be fooled…

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 2680 - 28/06/2024 07:11:41    2555304

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Or maybe they're simply not used to anything bar straight knockout for years and it takes time to change attitudes.
Look at people's attitudes towards and attendances for league over years.

Players want quantity though especially for the level of work they put in for inter County and low number of games for county players isn't near good enough"
I don't understand what players want anymore. On the one hand I hear it stated that players are dedicating so much time to training and what is required to be an intercounty foot baller (or hurler) and then I hear county managers bemoaning the fact that the best players in the county won't play for the county because of the demands being placed on them by managers. In addition, I hear stories of players going to America to play football for the summer as soon as their county team is beaten in the championship. Of course the elephant in the room is money. Every member of each county's backup team is being paid as is most managers. The players are the only ones not being compensated; this will change at some stage and the justification for being paid is the time involved in preparing for so many games. I believe that there should be a reduction in the number of games being played at intercounty level. This would reduce the demands on the players. It should be two defeats and you are out of the championship just like under the qualifier system. This would allow games to be evenly spread out over the summer months. Replays should be re-introduced and the need for penalties to decide games removed.

wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1977 - 28/06/2024 11:01:37    2555346

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Replying To wicklowsupport:  "I don't understand what players want anymore. On the one hand I hear it stated that players are dedicating so much time to training and what is required to be an intercounty foot baller (or hurler) and then I hear county managers bemoaning the fact that the best players in the county won't play for the county because of the demands being placed on them by managers. In addition, I hear stories of players going to America to play football for the summer as soon as their county team is beaten in the championship. Of course the elephant in the room is money. Every member of each county's backup team is being paid as is most managers. The players are the only ones not being compensated; this will change at some stage and the justification for being paid is the time involved in preparing for so many games. I believe that there should be a reduction in the number of games being played at intercounty level. This would reduce the demands on the players. It should be two defeats and you are out of the championship just like under the qualifier system. This would allow games to be evenly spread out over the summer months. Replays should be re-introduced and the need for penalties to decide games removed."
100% agree with you on that as most people would with common sense

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 2680 - 28/06/2024 13:30:12    2555385

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Anyone get last night's attendance yet?

Seemed decent enough and with many not attending both games , the cross over added together might have been high 50s, low 60s.

Overall though, for the good of the GAA, it would really help now if Dublin slipped back considerably(highly doubtful I know).

We needs Dubs fans getting their hunger back after 13 years of near total dominance.

Time for the West and Ulster to start sharing titles between then and hopefully a real emergence of quality Leinster opposition.

shaggykev (Donegal) - Posts: 284 - 30/06/2024 10:10:55    2555878

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What were the attendances for both 1/4 final double headers.?

Cant see massive numbers going to the semi's tbh.

Too many games in a short space of time.? Ticket prices.?

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3941 - 30/06/2024 17:01:11    2555991

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Replying To Fionn:  "What were the attendances for both 1/4 final double headers.?

Cant see massive numbers going to the semi's tbh.

Too many games in a short space of time.? Ticket prices.?"
Just found them...

approx 49,000 yesterday
47,000 today.

Cant see either semi final topping those figures.

Could be quite a while before we see sell-out signs again for Croker - other than AI Finals of course.

GAA will need to do something I reckon.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3941 - 30/06/2024 17:37:23    2556004

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Replying To Fionn:  "Just found them...

approx 49,000 yesterday
47,000 today.

Cant see either semi final topping those figures.

Could be quite a while before we see sell-out signs again for Croker - other than AI Finals of course.

GAA will need to do something I reckon."
Remember the quarter finals were double headers. Semi finals are stand alone fixtures
Galway and Donegal may draw a fair crowd 40k max.
The other semi Kerry will not travel.
100 euro for a ticket for final with no double header will struggle to sell out.
GAA were hoping for a Dublin Kerry final. That is gone now.
The day has now come where tickets will be readily available on AI final day.

Jack L (None) - Posts: 3138 - 30/06/2024 18:01:03    2556010

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Replying To Jack L:  "Remember the quarter finals were double headers. Semi finals are stand alone fixtures
Galway and Donegal may draw a fair crowd 40k max.
The other semi Kerry will not travel.
100 euro for a ticket for final with no double header will struggle to sell out.
GAA were hoping for a Dublin Kerry final. That is gone now.
The day has now come where tickets will be readily available on AI final day."
They will be doing well to get 60,000 in total for the semi finals.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3941 - 30/06/2024 19:09:31    2556025

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Lower the cost and the people will come.

Between a couple, and then children and transport you are looking at the guts of 150 euro. And that could be twice in a month.
I honestly dont think its lack of interest, the same people will be watching it on tv at home. Make it more affordable.

ArmaghAndProud (Armagh) - Posts: 35 - 30/06/2024 19:24:50    2556031

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Replying To Fionn:  "They will be doing well to get 60,000 in total for the semi finals."
Plus, when you pay good money for a ticket and run the risk of being tortured in your seat to what Kerry and Derry produced today and Cork and Louth last week, it can balance the scales in favor of staying at home and watching the game on TV. I know in Ireland that not all games are on the Telly, but here in America I get all the games on GAAGO for 120 euro per year. It's great value, and I have those games in Catch Up for the year after, if I want to go back and re-watch one. I watched the first half today. It was putrid, so I left and went for a round of golf. That's not an option when you drive miles to a stadium and are sick to the teeth of the product by half-time.

The Irish GAA folk should lobby to have the 39 euro or whatever the charge is there to watch GAAGO deducted from their TV licence payment. That would make everyone happy, except the inept RTE (and I would use stronger than 'inept' to describe that outlet but fear that my post might not be published). There's enough Independent TDs and councillors across rural Ireland to successfully push such an agenda.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2067 - 30/06/2024 19:31:56    2556034

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Some poor fare yesterday for sure but I think the real problem is you have teams in quarter finals that their fan base have given up on.

When you get to the QF stage of a competition you need to have teams who are on a bit of a role that has got real buy in from fans after a series of wins.

We had a teams in quarter finals that had shown very little form and I doubt had any real belief they were going to win the All Ireland. Roscommon had only won 2 of their 5 championship games, Derry 1 win and a draw form 5. Even Louth who have had a great year but know their place in the pecking order after running in to Kerry a couple of weeks ago.

Hurling Quarter finals were similar, double header brought smaller crowds than the football. Few Wexford or Dublin fans felt there was an All Ireland on the cards and it and the bandwagon support was absent as a result.

dahayeser (Cork) - Posts: 352 - 01/07/2024 09:40:30    2556143

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