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Wexford Hurling thread 2024

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "Going by the fact this year's U20s team lost a Leinster Minor Final to Kilkenny by three points in 2021, you would be hopeful that there's some good talent there, pretty much every Minor team who have reached a Leinster Final for us since 2008 have ended up contributing a good few starters to our Senior team

But talent doesn't necessarily translate to success, let's see how this team goes"
There can be a bit of a change in 3 years weather its form, injuries etc. Looking at the starting team from the Leinster minor in 2019, 7 of them didn't figure at all in the Leinster u20 final in 2022 ( some injuries, some form) and then lads like Eoin Ryan, Joe Barrett and Tucker Kinsella who played in the u20 Leinster final couldn't make the matchday 26 or panel at all in 2019.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 23/03/2024 20:24:28    2532924

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "There can be a bit of a change in 3 years weather its form, injuries etc. Looking at the starting team from the Leinster minor in 2019, 7 of them didn't figure at all in the Leinster u20 final in 2022 ( some injuries, some form) and then lads like Eoin Ryan, Joe Barrett and Tucker Kinsella who played in the u20 Leinster final couldn't make the matchday 26 or panel at all in 2019."
I suppose the three stand-out players from that 2019 Minor team were still stand-outs as U20s in 2022 in Cian Molloy, Richie Lawlor, and AJ Redmond. I'd say we'd be hoping that Eoin Whelan, Luke Murphy, and Cian Ó Tuama can backbone our team this year. If I have my years correct, Simon Roche, Dylan Purcell, Cillian Byrne, and Seán Rowley should all have another year of U20 left after this year.

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 293 - 23/03/2024 21:50:47    2532945

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On the subject of excuses... John kiely was going on like Kilkenny had taken the bag of all Ireland medals off them today. No messing from him.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2796 - 23/03/2024 22:54:09    2532953

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "I suppose the three stand-out players from that 2019 Minor team were still stand-outs as U20s in 2022 in Cian Molloy, Richie Lawlor, and AJ Redmond. I'd say we'd be hoping that Eoin Whelan, Luke Murphy, and Cian Ó Tuama can backbone our team this year. If I have my years correct, Simon Roche, Dylan Purcell, Cillian Byrne, and Seán Rowley should all have another year of U20 left after this year."
Your on the money with those, Darragh Kehoe another off last year's team who is underage again.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 23/03/2024 23:43:08    2532956

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "I suppose the three stand-out players from that 2019 Minor team were still stand-outs as U20s in 2022 in Cian Molloy, Richie Lawlor, and AJ Redmond. I'd say we'd be hoping that Eoin Whelan, Luke Murphy, and Cian Ó Tuama can backbone our team this year. If I have my years correct, Simon Roche, Dylan Purcell, Cillian Byrne, and Seán Rowley should all have another year of U20 left after this year."
It should be a good team. Kehoe from Cloughbawn is still underage form last years u20s also, as is Daragh Farrell from Bunclody. Simon Roche was a standout player also, and Rowley is one of the best now.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12385 - 24/03/2024 07:20:22    2532969

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Any word on any practises matches or anything lads

hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 967 - 24/03/2024 18:34:34    2533243

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Well lads, is impending doom on the way for Limerick after today just like it was for us after the defeat to Cork?

More relevant news to us is alot of lads returning to the Antrim panel before the championship, 6 Dunloy lads including Keelan Molloy who is their best player in my opinion and their goalie Ryan Elliott, makes the tricky trip Belfast tricker again.

On the u19 game last night I've no idea on how each county is approaching the competition, all I know is there's only 1 player on the Wexford panel last night who I would have taught was in the mix to be starting on the team this year and he's still u18."
Is there a bit of impending doom on the way for Tipp too?

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 24/03/2024 19:34:12    2533281

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Is there a bit of impending doom on the way for Tipp too?"
It's only the League

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12385 - 24/03/2024 22:26:13    2533364

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Replying To Viking66:  "It's only the League"
I know and agree, just seeing the lads complaining about excuses etc. over the last week had any taughts on poor displays by Limerick and Tipp over the weekend.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 25/03/2024 00:08:13    2533399

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Replying To Viking66:  "It's only the League"
league has no bearing on the summer ahead ,like all teams our concern now is getting all bodies fit and ready for lenister
if all fit we have a nice mix of old and new, rossi really used the league well, bit of luck with injuries and he will have wexford ready

wexfordminor92 (Wexford) - Posts: 75 - 25/03/2024 07:40:58    2533411

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Well lads, is impending doom on the way for Limerick after today just like it was for us after the defeat to Cork?

More relevant news to us is alot of lads returning to the Antrim panel before the championship, 6 Dunloy lads including Keelan Molloy who is their best player in my opinion and their goalie Ryan Elliott, makes the tricky trip Belfast tricker again.

On the u19 game last night I've no idea on how each county is approaching the competition, all I know is there's only 1 player on the Wexford panel last night who I would have taught was in the mix to be starting on the team this year and he's still u18."
u19 development league from all accounts is just token, talking to a father of one of the boys and he said who ever turned up for trials got a run, i am a bit suprised the u18 boy you stated is not on the u20 panel,
why is there not a closer colaberation with the schools and county development, senior A very high standard and way above u17 minor, and schools unearth boys who never made county underage due to late development, st peters vs offally schools and good counsel vs killkenny cbs high level this year, yet boys starting on u19 only on extented panel of both school teams , josh roche corner back for st peters from shels an excellent talent and could not make minor panel last year with good counsel having 2 or 3 similar boys ,
As a past st peters boy, i really hope there is no truth that they are droping down to B grade for senior hurling next yaer, first time in their proud history

wexfordminor92 (Wexford) - Posts: 75 - 25/03/2024 08:05:33    2533414

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "I know and agree, just seeing the lads complaining about excuses etc. over the last week had any taughts on poor displays by Limerick and Tipp over the weekend."
Of course they didn't. And neither did any of the pundits either.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12385 - 25/03/2024 09:10:38    2533433

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Replying To wexfordminor92:  "league has no bearing on the summer ahead ,like all teams our concern now is getting all bodies fit and ready for lenister
if all fit we have a nice mix of old and new, rossi really used the league well, bit of luck with injuries and he will have wexford ready"
Yes agree with you hope he has a little luck with injuries clearing up, and no new ones occurring, and we should be ready to give it a good lash then.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12385 - 25/03/2024 09:12:11    2533435

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "I know and agree, just seeing the lads complaining about excuses etc. over the last week had any taughts on poor displays by Limerick and Tipp over the weekend."
Limerick will still win the All-Ireland at their ease in my opinion, but that did not stop Kilkenny getting in to the trenches with them. They got off the bus with a F these fellahs attitude. We've 36 All-Irelands these have 1/3 of that. We are Kilkenny. As Martin Fogarty said "If Limerick won the next 20 All-Irelands they'd still have less".

Wexford and many other counties would have got off the bus and had a "give it a lash Jack and we have a heap of injuries and Dublin in 4 weeks time is all that matters" attitude.

Mindset. It is powerful.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1157 - 25/03/2024 10:11:45    2533450

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Replying To wexfordminor92:  "u19 development league from all accounts is just token, talking to a father of one of the boys and he said who ever turned up for trials got a run, i am a bit suprised the u18 boy you stated is not on the u20 panel,
why is there not a closer colaberation with the schools and county development, senior A very high standard and way above u17 minor, and schools unearth boys who never made county underage due to late development, st peters vs offally schools and good counsel vs killkenny cbs high level this year, yet boys starting on u19 only on extented panel of both school teams , josh roche corner back for st peters from shels an excellent talent and could not make minor panel last year with good counsel having 2 or 3 similar boys ,
As a past st peters boy, i really hope there is no truth that they are droping down to B grade for senior hurling next yaer, first time in their proud history"
That u18 player was just my own opinion so wouldn't read too much into that, I wonder is Wexford CBS making strides factoring into St Peters struggles, seen they bet them well in the 2nd year competition this year.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 25/03/2024 10:18:51    2533453

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "That u18 player was just my own opinion so wouldn't read too much into that, I wonder is Wexford CBS making strides factoring into St Peters struggles, seen they bet them well in the 2nd year competition this year."
the u18 boy in question is in school in Wexford CBS,
feeder teams to Wexford schools are from Annes martins harriers shells barn town and a big crew from oulart, all top Wexford senior clubs and all premier and ronin 1 at minor level, still st peters dropping to senior b along with the CBS,
very worrying situation for the standard of underage club hurling in Wexford county, yet Good Counsel are supplied from junior and intermediate teams from south Kilkenny and newross yet can complete at the high level every year at senior A in Leinster, (I did notice players from barntown and Martins on their team last year, are these boys county underage players)
this seems very hard to explain, and would you agree st peters dropping to Senior B is a concern

wexfordminor92 (Wexford) - Posts: 75 - 25/03/2024 11:18:45    2533479

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "That u18 player was just my own opinion so wouldn't read too much into that, I wonder is Wexford CBS making strides factoring into St Peters struggles, seen they bet them well in the 2nd year competition this year."
in fairness to david redmond and donal howlin in wexford cbs, they do great work with gaa in the school and have brought the cbs up to senior B but st Peters still get a larger amount of hurlers to pick from, that is why i am concerned that they are dropping to B next year

wexfordminor92 (Wexford) - Posts: 75 - 25/03/2024 11:43:14    2533494

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Replying To wexfordminor92:  "the u18 boy in question is in school in Wexford CBS,
feeder teams to Wexford schools are from Annes martins harriers shells barn town and a big crew from oulart, all top Wexford senior clubs and all premier and ronin 1 at minor level, still st peters dropping to senior b along with the CBS,
very worrying situation for the standard of underage club hurling in Wexford county, yet Good Counsel are supplied from junior and intermediate teams from south Kilkenny and newross yet can complete at the high level every year at senior A in Leinster, (I did notice players from barntown and Martins on their team last year, are these boys county underage players)
this seems very hard to explain, and would you agree st peters dropping to Senior B is a concern"
I think that lad from Glynn on the Good Counsel team was playing on the u19 development team Friday night, I absolutely agree than St Peters dropping to B grade wouldn't be good, the more schools competing at A grade the better, this isn't really to relevant to Wexford more nationally but you have to wonder are the schools a bit skewed when you see Kierans have been in 9 Croke Cup finals in a row (no final in 2020 or 21) due to covid, yet this hasn't been reflected in Kilkenny dominating intercounty underage in the same period, what really brought this home to me was the outcry last year when Offaly schools won Leinster yet Keirans who they bet in the final had a bigger spread of clubs including a player from Laois and a player from Carlow on the starting team, I know talking to people in Kilkenny that they think the Keirans situation isn't healthy for the county as a whole.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 25/03/2024 12:11:53    2533515

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Limerick will still win the All-Ireland at their ease in my opinion, but that did not stop Kilkenny getting in to the trenches with them. They got off the bus with a F these fellahs attitude. We've 36 All-Irelands these have 1/3 of that. We are Kilkenny. As Martin Fogarty said "If Limerick won the next 20 All-Irelands they'd still have less".

Wexford and many other counties would have got off the bus and had a "give it a lash Jack and we have a heap of injuries and Dublin in 4 weeks time is all that matters" attitude.

Mindset. It is powerful."
So you still haven't commented on Limerick or Tipp's poor displays at the weekend? I agree regards Limerick on Friday had them favorites for the All Ireland and Clare, Kilkenny and Tipp part of the 5 team chasing pack who are all roughly the same level. Today I still see it that way.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 25/03/2024 12:14:43    2533517

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "So you still haven't commented on Limerick or Tipp's poor displays at the weekend? I agree regards Limerick on Friday had them favorites for the All Ireland and Clare, Kilkenny and Tipp part of the 5 team chasing pack who are all roughly the same level. Today I still see it that way."
I don't see your point, or what you want me to say about them?
Tipp and Limerick were beaten by better teams on the day. Neither will make excuses and both will regroup.
I don't think either of them have - or would have - or could have - any complaints.
Limerick are Limerick and still AI favourites by a mile and Tipp have a lot of work to do.
I don't see any other point you are making, truth be told.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1157 - 25/03/2024 12:46:10    2533528

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